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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
Blogging and affiliate marketing is a long term money making strategy.
So if you can write and have a niche that is popular in keyword / SEO that can be profitable and even residual income it actually doesn't even have to be adult content related you can make money from blogging and affiliate marketing the mainstream markets.
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
I'm gonna revisit this thread after my shower (I didn't have am umbrella on me, and when I walked home from Wawa I got SOAKED in the damn rain...) so I can jot down some more notes onto my notepad. :)
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
Selling text messages, pics, panties, video clips, adult voice recordings, etc.
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
Actually, I have a related question.
So, like OP, I tried camming and I did not like it for the real-time interaction. So I'm going to try making clips instead.
I would also like to try selling props from my clips. Does anyone know which online storefronts are good for that kind of thing? The objects I'd like to put up aren't inherently sexual, but I note that many of the online storefronts (BigCartel, Shopify, etc) use PayPal and PayPal seems to be picky about even the most tangential relation to adult entertainment. So I would prefer to use something that's already built for the purpose of selling people sexy things and has payment processing that is happy to take my dirty sex money.
So yeah, you can sell panties and perhaps other things, if you have a following who will buy them.
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
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Ms.Spectre
Actually, I have a related question.
So, like OP, I tried camming and I did not like it for the real-time interaction. So I'm going to try making clips instead.
I would also like to try selling props from my clips. Does anyone know which online storefronts are good for that kind of thing? The objects I'd like to put up aren't inherently sexual, but I note that many of the online storefronts (BigCartel, Shopify, etc) use PayPal and PayPal seems to be picky about even the most tangential relation to adult entertainment. So I would prefer to use something that's already built for the purpose of selling people sexy things and has payment processing that is happy to take my dirty sex money.
So yeah, you can sell panties and perhaps other things, if you have a following who will buy them.
Ebanned is good for selling personal items, at least it used to be, I dont know the current state of it. It is/was best used and most successful after you have a following though. Reddit has a used panty subreddit too which is pretty active and seems geared more towards "normal" girls vs cam girls that have a following or at least girls dont advertise they are cam girls there
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
I sell custom erotica on my pro-domme website. It's definitely a side hustle and will never pay my bills on its own, but I've had some luck with it. I charge extra for fantasies that aren't resalable or involve taboo (I'm willing to write about anything that isn't pedophilia).
My plan is to start doing kindle erotica with the resalable stories, but I've been lazy about getting covers/doing research/marketing/etc on that. The r/eroticauthors subreddit is supposed to be a good resource (although I've heard there's purposefully bad advice alongside the good advice).
I also sell audio clips on Niteflirt. Also a side hustle, and I think it helps to have a robust PSO listing, but...hey, you never know. Once I get enough of them I want to try C4S with my audio clips as well.
I'd love to learn more about affiliate marketing...I've always thought of that stuff as high-effort-for-little-reward, but maybe I should look into it. I'll definitely be watching this thread for more ideas!
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
Missbeth,
Ebanned is still good for selling panties and other personal items. People can also sell panties on Manyvids as well. I just used Ebanned and Manyvids to sell my panties.I never used Reddit to sell panties because I just do not like that site. But cam models can sell their items and shows there discreetly :)
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Missbeth
Ebanned is good for selling personal items, at least it used to be, I dont know the current state of it. It is/was best used and most successful after you have a following though. Reddit has a used panty subreddit too which is pretty active and seems geared more towards "normal" girls vs cam girls that have a following or at least girls dont advertise they are cam girls there
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
I write custom erotica, my own regular erotica, and self-pubbed a small collection of erotica on Amazon (with plans to do more). I'm not big on photo sets and video clips (of the nudey, more hardcore variety) - I will do audio clips, though ... both customs and my own role-plays, 'scenes', etc. I also do the text packaging thing - which is SORT OF real-time interaction, but for me it's way more low-key than being on the phone or in front of the cam. Those are the things I have, and am continuing to work on, incorporating and marketing. I'll be using my own website for it, once I launch. ELM, C4S, and whatever else I can get my hands on. On NF they have very specific rules for Goodies, so I haven't been able to sell text packages there yet.
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
I am bumping because I heart this thread. I wouldn't mind offering blog services to girls who needed someone to write or develop for their character. I'm just clueless in regards to payment processor.
But yes, awesome thread. For those of us no longer camming, this is great. I wish I had thought to do half this stuff when I was still living at home with my mom after my divorce! Would have been much more efficient than trying to cam!
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
Yeah, the payment processor seems to be the fuck of it. The problem I'm looking at is, I'm pretty good at building websites and would much rather have a beautiful, customized storefront that matches my branding scheme rather than listing things on ebay or the like. Most of the pre-built storefronts (BigCartel, Shopify, etc) use PayPal or Stripe, and both of them are unfriendly to adult-oriented businesses. Even though I personally would not be selling anything inherently "adult" (more like used stockings and handwritten notes), I'd still have to worry about my store getting shut down for being associated with clips4sale.
The obvious alternative is to just sell my stuff directly from my website proper so I could use a more friendly processor, but most of them require the buyer to make an account. I think this would incur a higher bouncerate on sales than if they could just order normally like they would anywhere else.
Nonetheless, fewer sales is better than no sales so I am considering just listing items on my own website and accepting payments via Circle, which is adult-industry friendly and has a mobile app. Maybe that would be easy enough that guys wouldn't just say "fuck it" at the first mention of going out of their way? I might just have to experiment with it.
On the other hand, some guys try to pay you in bitcoins so maybe I'm overthinking it.
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
I am no longer Camming. Hung it up. I quite enjoy PSO. I am selling panties but not on ebanned as I tried it years ago and I hated the feel of the site. Lots of gross poop requests. I'm using a panty auction site.
I tried eBay with sly wording but I think a jelly other panty seller turned me on and my one posting with a video got removed. Apparently you can't make your own vids for sale on there. They must be produced in a legally legit cam studio, etc.
I've yet to do much with nite flirt. Just seems like way too much work. Other than that I plan to make some crafts that are totally not adult related and for Halloween and sell on eBay and etsy so I would prefer to not piss eBay and PayPal off.
For panties I accept cash or cashiers check or money order etc at a po box under my business name. I will also accept a Wal mart e gift card if it's close to Christmas or birthdays. Otherwise I want money. My panty sales seem to be all I can handle as I like to shop a quality product.
Don't try eBay. Just don't. The bites are there but you WILL get flagged and there's that whole PayPal for adult items thing. It's ok to sell panties, but not worn. And apparently they are not buyin semantics or round about ways to describe your listings. You might sell a few and bam, some jealous person is gonna turn you in.
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
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Ms.Spectre
Even though I personally would not be selling anything inherently "adult" (more like used stockings and handwritten notes), I'd still have to worry about my store getting shut down for being associated with clips4sale.
There was a girl on here, a friend brought her shoes-nothing weird or stripperish, just shoes, and wrote a note "For you {girl's name here}". She said that because of that, as innocent as it was, Paypal shut her down. I don't trust PP. And I use them for vanilla work, so yeah, I would mix the two worlds at all.
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Re: Best types of work that don't involve real-time interaction
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JenniferNorth
There was a girl on here, a friend brought her shoes-nothing weird or stripperish, just shoes, and wrote a note "For you {girl's name here}". She said that because of that, as innocent as it was, Paypal shut her down. I don't trust PP. And I use them for vanilla work, so yeah, I would mix the two worlds at all.
I got them through paypal. I hate paypal anyway.
As I said about Ebay, you can make hundreds, and you seen that, off of ONE panty. Just ONE. I listed several in a week and boom, they all sold, fast and high. But there's jealous bitches all over in the world and ebay is no exception. Ebay works on self reporting so if somebody reports you, they will shut your auction down. But it's so easy, so, so easy to get bids. I think the beauty of Ebay is that dirty panties aren't allowed, so there's a ton of panty guys and not many panty sellers.
Essentially I'm re vamping my technique. I have their TOS for adult items (panties) and following it to a T. Any customer who sends me a message I'll quickly tell them I only discuss panty sales not allowed on ebay OFF of ebay and they creatively leave ME their e mail. I then talk about the specifics there. I list them as NWT but pre owned and state that the panty being modeled is not the panty the buyer will receive and that they will receive a new, never worn panty. I don't mention anything about me, where I wear them, my body, etc. I just describe the panty.
So far so good. I have two auctions up. One for a pair I pad 9.00 for and I'm selling them for 75 right now. The bidders contacted me privately and I agreed to a 15 minute video "playing" in panty on top of the panty itsself if my item sold for at least 75. I do this all off of ebay.
I take payment via e gift cards, buying from my amazon wish list, or cash to a po box. The name on ebay is my husbands business, they are sent using stamps for postage as I have my own scale and I calculate first class shipping, with NO return address. He takes the shipment to work and ships them for me. So far, so good. I stopped allowing money orders or checks.
Ebay does allow the selling of adult items without taking paypal. But they don't allow sending cash. They want you to send a money order or check. I work that out in private, I'm not accepting a money order or check.
IMO panty guys are the most annoying breed. I won't wear more than 24 hours, I won't do pee or poo stains, and if they don't like that, too bad.
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How many eggs are in YOUR basket?
Ok everyone, hi! Hello! So I'm a newbie here and still learning. What I found out about myself so far: I HATE free chat. I enjoy promoting myself but could be a little better. I decided I only want to cam through Skyprivate since customers can book shows and no free chat. However, there is other content I'm into promoting/selling and that is 1) picture sets 2) videos 3) erotica 4) voice clips and 5) Shoes/memorabillia. I found modelcentro and got REALLY excited because I can sell all of that on one platform. However, I was doing some reading on here the other day and a model said something that really stuck with me which is "a true hustler never has one source of income". Ok so then I realized I need more eggs! So here's what I'm going to do; I'm going sell my content on Modelcentro, YouKandy and Clips4Sale. I hope this will be enough platforms to bring in decent money. What do you think? How many platforms do you sell on? How many social media accounts do you promote on? Would you recommend different websites? Do I need more? How many eggs are in YOUR basket? As always tips and advice are welcome! Thank you ladies!
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Re: How many eggs are in YOUR basket?
you do you. Seriously try things, keep them or kick them, adapt, evolve. no site works the same for two models. I have two fetish clip sites I update regularly, plus one vanilla clip site. plus multiple cam sites.
I'd try elm if you like fetish stuff and MV for vanilla as well. also, look into MGF and niteflirt for camming. Different girls have different experiences on different sites to an enormous degree.
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Re: How many eggs are in YOUR basket?
I have one site and I always feel guilty when I read on here, but that's what works for me. If I was going to increase my hours further I'd put it into that one site. I tried to split between two sites last year at one point and I hated it, and also made less money. Just a different perspective. I don't agree with that quote about a 'true hustler' - you do what works for you, irrespective of 'rules'.
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Re: How many eggs are in YOUR basket?
Too freakin many lol thats my answer...because I signed up for 9 sites and so far have only had time to cam on 4 and stick with 2 right now. Its a lot to keep up with...but definately better to try something and decide you don't like it than be missing out so there's no real loss in signing up for multiple places/things.
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Re: How many eggs are in YOUR basket?
Dahlia_love,
Everyone is different when it comes to diversifying their income. For example, I have tons of eggs because I wanted a great adult entertainment career with multiple streams of income. However, some adult entertainers stick to one thing and it works for them. Frankly, you must decided if you want to be commit to promoting yourself all over social media or making new content? You must ask yourself if diversifying your income streams is something that works for you?
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dahlia_love
Ok everyone, hi! Hello! So I'm a newbie here and still learning. What I found out about myself so far: I HATE free chat. I enjoy promoting myself but could be a little better. I decided I only want to cam through Skyprivate since customers can book shows and no free chat. However, there is other content I'm into promoting/selling and that is 1) picture sets 2) videos 3) erotica 4) voice clips and 5) Shoes/memorabillia. I found modelcentro and got REALLY excited because I can sell all of that on one platform. However, I was doing some reading on here the other day and a model said something that really stuck with me which is "a true hustler never has one source of income". Ok so then I realized I need more eggs! So here's what I'm going to do; I'm going sell my content on Modelcentro, YouKandy and Clips4Sale. I hope this will be enough platforms to bring in decent money. What do you think? How many platforms do you sell on? How many social media accounts do you promote on? Would you recommend different websites? Do I need more? How many eggs are in YOUR basket? As always tips and advice are welcome! Thank you ladies!
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Re: How many eggs are in YOUR basket?
Pinklemonade0,
Actually, the phase "a true hustler never has one source of income" was said as a response last year to tons of models saying they were not making enough on one site. Thus, that phase was a response to models saying they need more money because working one site was not working for them. I believe it does not apply to models who work one place and it works for them. However, many adult entertainers need more than one site, platform, or whatever to make their maximum income. Even great porn stars need to have more than one thing in order to make the maximum in this industry. Hustling in the adult industry is about making the maximum amount for you. True adult hustling is about not only making the maximum amount but making it off different sources. Also making sure that your brand keeps growing until you get ready to retire and beyond. Just my two cents :)
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pinklemonade0
I have one site and I always feel guilty when I read on here, but that's what works for me. If I was going to increase my hours further I'd put it into that one site. I tried to split between two sites last year at one point and I hated it, and also made less money. Just a different perspective. I don't agree with that quote about a 'true hustler' - you do what works for you, irrespective of 'rules'.
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Re: More Eggs, More Baskets Challenge
I'm really annoyed with having so many eggs and I wish I could scale down but whenever I do, I make less per hour and it fucking sucks. Why can't it all be one egg, it would be so much easier. Rant, rant, rant, whine. Why can't my customers just go to one site instead of being dispersed all over the place. It's fucking weird because token site guys just will not switch over to private and vice versa.
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Re: More Eggs, More Baskets Challenge
i feel the same, too many sites to work to and then u cant really focus on doing a great thing because u are dispersed. annoying.
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Re: More Eggs, More Baskets Challenge
I'm having the same dilemma. I want to have less eggs, but in reality I can't because I won't always make money on that site. But I don't really want to be working on so many sites at the same time. It sounds daunting to me. I'm trying to make a comeback and I'm figuring out which eggs will be worth my time. I know that I need to diversify my income in order to make money, but damn it sucks.
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Re: More Eggs, More Baskets Challenge
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LadyCoco
I'm having the same dilemma. I want to have less eggs, but in reality I can't because I won't always make money on that site. But I don't really want to be working on so many sites at the same time. It sounds daunting to me. I'm trying to make a comeback and I'm figuring out which eggs will be worth my time. I know that I need to diversify my income in order to make money, but damn it sucks.
I had a TON of sites, some would get no traffic and I would end up just barely making the minimum every pay period. I ended up cutting those, but now I feel like I am not doing everything that I can to make the most money! I took some eggs out and now I am trying to put them back in without putting so much effort into something that isn't making me enough money to be worth it!
I am so conflicted! Do I want a little extra money (potentially a lot more money) or do I want to not feel stressed out and like my time is wasted?!
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Re: More Eggs, More Baskets Challenge
I'm conflicted too because there are sites that I want to work hard on. In the meantime, I need to beef up my image, promote myself, and build up content. But I don't have time for both because of my vanilla job. But I should get on and stream as on many sites as I can in the meantime. And then once I earn more and more money, I can pull back on my vanilla job and make content.
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Re: More Eggs, More Baskets Challenge
^ I feel the same way! I'm running between my vanilla jobs and doing only a couple of adult eggs, scrambling my brains in the process. Honestly, I got back into doing adult because vanilla on it's own just wasn't cutting it. At the same time, if I don't have additional eggs, it really messes with my money. I have birthdays for all my close family coming up, my husband and I need a vacation, and in addition to other things my vanilla paycheck didn't get to when the bucks were rolling in, I feel pressured to cover a lot.
I never thought I would say it, but it sucks, because I feel spread thin. Has anyone else tried some kind of work schedule? I think I may need to start and enforce one...certain things get priority on certain days.
Sidenote: I am annoyed, because I forgot how anytime I use my face for something, I have to do hair and makeup. Not that I stopped taking care of my self, but I don't wear makeup everyday! So I'm over here like ughhhh, bring on the foundation and hairspray. :D