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If you make 1,000$ in a night, it's not just 'a lucky night'
We have a serious ringer working our club, who usually does very well--at least since I've been working there. ;D
Anyway, tonight she did 8 VIPs at 100$ a pop, plus tips and private dances, so about a grand all told.
She tried to tell me she 'was just lucky' tonight, because she knew the guy from beforehand, & that otherwise the night was not that good. :rotfl:
I didn't correct her, but I might tomorrow--in a nice way of course, so she can wake up and see the light and so make even more money in future.
Number one she is hot as hell, and of course that had a whole lot to do with it above and beyond any conceivable 'luck' tonight. But also, she met the guy before in this club, and he then came back to spend at least 800$ on her, and she is saying this was just luck. This is NOT 'Luck'.
A rather extreme case of this kind of thinking, but I have heard it a whole lot from girls that should know better, when they are having a really good night. You go into work, get all dressed up & made up with the hair and all, and then go out & put on a show, & then go hustle the guys after stage. If you happen to make a lot of money, it's not fucking 'luck'.
It's your work, your looks, and your sales ability paying off!
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Re: If you make 1,000$ in a night, it's not just 'a lucky night'
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Djoser
But also, she met the guy before in this club, and he then came back to spend at least 800$ on her, and she is saying this was just luck. This is NOT 'Luck'
True, but it's not like every customer comes back to drop huge amounts of cash, so it is a bit of luck that you hit the right customer before some other girl gets to him! Certainly wouldn't get that lucky if you're not a good hustler, but there's something to be said for being in the right place at the right time.
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I don't know if this applies here, it may not, but I had a DJ who constantly told me that I was capable of making boatloads of cash, every night. I found that super annoying. He'd congratulate me on good nights and tell me I could make that amount of $ on every shift, if I wanted to. I felt like that was his way of telling me I was being lazy on nights that I didn't bank. I'm not saying this is the same situation OP is describing, at all. But anyone who works for tips has nights that are better than others. A lot depends on how hard a girl works. But, a lot depends on the men who walk through the door, too.
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In her case that was not luck
,.but there is luck involved as well every night you work. Like it was my bad luck last name night that a guy wanted to do a 500 room but his card wouldn't work but by luck and the guy thinking I was the hottest girl in the club last night that guy gave me 300 just to sit for a half hour.
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Honestly it depends on the club. You can have the hottest girl on the planet who is a 10 with everything right who might end up walking up owing house while another less attractive girl makes bank. Many factors are in play, from perhaps the girl is a hustler to the fact that the right customer came in. I remember working at this one club where I was told I would be lucky to make house but made over $400 after house. I made it because I never took no for an answer and I happened to have one guy come in who spent over $200 on me. $400 may not seem much to some, but this was a club with $5 bikini air dances back in 1994.
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Its the law of attraction TBH
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I agree, but maybe she was just being modest in front of her co workers? If she is attractive and a top earner then this could definitely be the case. Lines like, "it was a lucky night", a "regular came in" or "I got lucky, this guy from last night came back in" are all kind of "throw away lines", dismissive and an excuse (in case others aren't doing as well). She may not have wanted to draw attention to her earnings.
I also agree with shannadior, you can be in the right place at the right time. Sometimes you might be the first girl (that's the customer's type) to approach a big spender. Of course being a good hustler helps you to keep them and encourage repeat business.
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In this girl's case, it was definitely not luck.
I tell her she could make even more fairly often, but I don't think she's annoyed. She knows it isn't criticism.
She's still a little too modest and sort of shy (for a dancer anyway lol)
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Re: If you make 1,000$ in a night, it's not just 'a lucky night'
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OliveJardin
I agree, but maybe she was just being modest in front of her co workers? If she is attractive and a top earner then this could definitely be the case. Lines like, "it was a lucky night", a "regular came in" or "I got lucky, this guy from last night came back in" are all kind of "throw away lines", dismissive and an excuse (in case others aren't doing as well). She may not have wanted to draw attention to her earnings.
I also agree with shannadior, you can be in the right place at the right time. Sometimes you might be the first girl (that's the customer's type) to approach a big spender. Of course being a good hustler helps you to keep them and encourage repeat business.
You read my mind!
A good question for DJoser to ask the dancer would be "Why do you call it a lucky night?" and explaining why he doesn't call it luck but looks and sales skill.
Luck= preperation + opportunity :)
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Flickdreams
...DJoser to ask the dancer would be "Why do you call it a lucky night?" and explaining why he doesn't call it luck but looks and sales skill.
Oh I have done that already more than once.
;D
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I feel like shes downplaying for coworkers, I didn't like when my last boss told me I had a good night, I felt watched. I don't particularly want someone counting my earnings- that old stripper maxim of keeping earnings private, in this situation, if I was told often that I'd had a good night.... I would feel as though something private had become public info.
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Jasmine.Doll
I don't know if this applies here, it may not, but I had a DJ who constantly told me that I was capable of making boatloads of cash, every night. I found that super annoying. He'd congratulate me on good nights and tell me I could make that amount of $ on every shift, if I wanted to. I felt like that was his way of telling me I was being lazy on nights that I didn't bank. I'm not saying this is the same situation OP is describing, at all. But anyone who works for tips has nights that are better than others. A lot depends on how hard a girl works. But, a lot depends on the men who walk through the door, too.
To add on to this, I should have mentioned that the DJ I mentioned was entitled to 15% of my VIP money. So, I seriously doubt this guy was trying to bolster my self esteem or had any kind of altruistic motivations. The more I made, the more he made. But I agree with what the ladies here are saying. Having every girl in the club knowing how much money you are making is never a good thing--especially when you are doing well.
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Ive discovered that Sometimes "luck" = "charm" but it still feels pretty damn lucky.
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Wow I forgot about this thread already. Time flies when you are having fun. :D
I suppose it all boils down to how you view the phenomenon known as 'Luck'.
Was her great night a gift dropped out of the blue in her lap by Fate, having nothing whatsoever to do with her amazing looks, subtly sensual and unique style, or the fact she had already danced for this guy a few months ago & he happened to come BACK to the same club with a bunch of money to spend?
Emphatically not...
Was she 'lucky' she happened to come into the club on the same night that guy was no doubt hoping to find her again?
Sure she was.
;D
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Anyway, the more I think about this thing known as 'Luck', the more I believe it can be controlled, harnessed, channeled.
I had what I would have described as 'bad luck' for most of my early adult years. Though most of that bad luck was probably due to my extreme vulnerability as a struggling artist (before I tried DJing). There was still a feeling in my head that I didn't have good luck. This ensured I had bad luck for the most part.
In more recent years, I have been considerably 'luckier'. But I am thinking more and more this is due to attitude, and a certain ability to seize on many more of the even slight, small opportunities available at any given time. The more you do this, the 'luckier' you feel, and things tend to 'go your way' a lot more. There is definitely a momentum that builds up.
Then for two years, starting about 3 years ago, everything seemed to go to shit. All kinds of stupid shit went wrong, everything I touched seemed to fuck up somehow. This was distressing, but it made me think about how things really work--especially when things turned around again.
Hell just walking down the street with your head held high and a power to the way you walk will make your day much better.
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This Djoser sounds like GlamourRouge mentioned 'The Law Of Attraction'. It's not random though it may seem so to those who don't understand how these extremely positive things are happening.
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Luck is a funny thing
Labouring
Under
Correct
Knowledge
using the right knowledge skills tactics etc can make your own luck. But then again I agree...her going in on the same night he wanted to find her and drop $$ was kinda hit or miss - she could bailed out of work and missed out.
or would he have come again and again night after night until he found her?
i love the concept of luck.
for me I am lucky when I bank, but spent the night being lazy af. I walk out with 600-1000 without even putting myself out there - then that's luck because I did nothing to warrant that.
i dress up, try hard, speak well and hustle....then that's me labouring under correct knowledge...making my own luck!
Cool thread!
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"luck" is throwing 11 consecutive sevens on the come at a craps table. "Luck" is hitting 9 consecutive points at that same table before sevening out. These things cannot be controlled.
Having your money in the right places on the table during that person's turn so you make bank on that lucky streak - that's not luck, that's knowing what to do when the opportunity is there.
Apply as applicable.
Many girls could make more than they do by better applying themselves. But if the club is full of crap customers or stays empty - there's not much anyone can do. It's been well covered here. ;)
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I don't know I understand what she's saying. I feel often what you make is so out of your control. I had a customer come in in Sunday and spend $1200... I had never met him before and I only spoke to him because there wasn't anyone else there, he was a very young guy. Did I hustle him well? Yes, but he could have spent that money on another one of the dancers. I just happened to get him at the right time.
Then I worked New Years Day and did two dances. Same hustle, but I just had bad luck. I kept getting to customers at the wrong time-- they had just gotten out of a dance and needed a break and before I could come back to them someone else had, they had already spent all their money, etc. I don't think how much money I make has anything to do with my hustle half the time. It's just striking the right customer at the right time in the right way, and sometimes that really is just luck. That's not to say I don't work hard at work and hustle my ass off, I do-- but I'm not going to get a huge ego on a good night or cry on a bad night because I really do believe so much of this job is random.
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Luck combined with good planning is the recipe. I had a customer who spent his Christmas bonus on me. Normally, he only gets a 30 min VIP show once a week. This time he got 2 hours. This customer also likes a lot of the girls I work with, so it was luck that I got that money and not someone else. It was also planning as I know that he likes to pop by the club around 1:30 in the afternoon on Tuesdays, so I made sure I was there to greet him when he arrived.
Sometimes, I have my regulars planned out for my shift and no one shows up. Sometimes I have VIPs stacked because everyone shows up at the same time. As a day shift dancers, planning is really necessary, but there is a generous amount of luck involved, too.
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To some degree I'd tell myself it was "luck" just because that helped take the pressure off to have to make that much money night after night. It's exhausting to enter the club knowing that you're going to try to make $X in the next X hours. To think of the number of interactions and hustles you'll have to pull off to physically move that cash into your purse. That's a ton of pressure! Especially when you know all of the other dancers and staff are watching you to see how much money you're making. It feels like admiration to them, but when you're the recipient of that energy, it feels like pressure. This is especially true in smaller clubs where people are more in each others' business.
It's part of what burned me out, actually. I started thinking to myself "Do I have the energy to make $X tonight? No? Then I won't go in." I wanted to be able to have bad nights, but with the constant vigilance of the dancers / staff, I felt watched and judged if I didn't make crazy money every night. I'm not saying it was right to feel that way, but it was real.
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charlie61
It's part of what burned me out, actually. I started thinking to myself "Do I have the energy to make $X tonight? No? Then I won't go in." I wanted to be able to have bad nights, but with the constant vigilance of the dancers / staff, I felt watched and judged if I didn't make crazy money every night. I'm not saying it was right to feel that way, but it was real.
I agree that this mindset can be discouraging. It is hard to explain to the floormen and dj's that even though the club is packed "my" customers aren't here. I have a type I look for when working. I'm selective about who I'm willing to dance for because I want to avoid the level of burnout I hit last time around. If I'm not feeling a connection to anyone in the bar, I move on. Sometime there is literally no one in the bar I connect with. I'm not willing to compromise my personality just to land a couple of dances, so I just let it go and forget about making any money.
Strangely, when I stop hustling and decide just to hang out and have some fun, I will make more money than I anticipated. If it is a crazy slow day for me, I don't worry about how much the other girls are making. Sometimes a girl is just on fire and makes bank when I'm feeling blah. I don't beat myself up over it. I don't compare myself to her. I know some days I'm on fire and she feels blah. It happens.
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Sometimes we pscyho-hustlers do have lucky nights wherein customers fall into our laps and we don't leave the club feeling totally emotionally and physically depleted. So it's possible that that's what she meant by 'lucky.' Most nights she probably works hella hard to make $1k (though she makes it look easy, of course), whereas other nights that money just falls out of the sky into her purse.
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"Lucky night",. What was she supposed to say? I have had plenty of "lucky nights" . Sometimes its "luck" , sometimes I'm "blessed". I usually keep my mouth closed about the factors that favor me unless I'm speaking with a friend. So many women can be catty and backstabbing. Even I tell what I am doing ,the advise is usually not used well . I've seen it in various adult jobs and straight jobs too.