There are a couple of things in that list that I have done, including the financial domination and I was told that we are not allowed to discuss any of them with customers or do them, even in a private session with only the customer and us.
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^^Good to know. They probably need to make that more clear.
Ugh, some of those words could come out in totally unrelated casual conversation. Just the other day I was talking about something non-sexual that happened when I was in high school, so I'm sure I used plenty of those words.
It's great when you get a spender, but unfortunately their traffic is very light and a lot of guys there just want to sit and chat and never spend it seems to me. It might work if you could put in full time hours but I'd go nuts sitting there for a full day.
It's my main site right now, but it *can* involve a lot of sitting around and doing nothing. There just aren't a whole lot of members. I've got great placement - usually #1-3, unless tons of models are on - but I can sometimes wait a good 1-2 hours before getting a private. Privates tend to run long, so I can get most of the way to my goal from just one or two of them, but I usually need a play session or two to round it out.
Yeah, I think I said this in a different post, but I got a tiny slap on the wrist for talking about wearing a school girl uniform, and also for once wearing a cheerleader uniform in chat. I was also informed that I could potentially get in trouble for the language my clientele decides to use, so to discourage them to say anything with that language as well. I still wear school uniforms on cam. I call them plaid skirts or "uniform", purposely leaving out the word school. ;D
Charlotte, I use this site as my main income, but I already have a fetish following, so that might make all the difference. I feel like 50-75% of my customers were my fans prior to KL. I do spend a lot of time in free chat also. I can usually tell within the first 5 min whether someone is going to end up being a paying customer or just wanna sit around and chat, but I try to treat all members equally and I don't mind those who are chatty simply because it gives me something to do other than sit around and look bored in between privates. It kinda weirds me out when I will have like over 120 anons in my room and no one will be saying a word... I haven't yet found a good way to insure success with play sessions so I don't bother with them much. Overall, having lurked in a few different model's rooms here and there, everyone seems to have their unique way to success on that site. It is a very interesting & different setup, imo, almost like a crossover of a token site and SM style. My regulars now tip me, mfc style, and I have a tip menu & goodies in the same style, but it's the privates that bank.
How are you enjoying your toys so far? I was especially wondering how you feel about the quality of the cane and the flogger.
Does the cane have a little give to it (not too rigid)?
Does the flogger have decent heft? Do you feel like it's well balanced? I personally prefer a heavy-ish flogger that can get some momentum when you swing it...
I don't use either very often, but:
- The cane is more like a bamboo switch. It has quite a lot of give, makes a nice "whoosh!" sound when swung, and can definitely leave marks if you bruise easily and swing it very hard.
- The flogger is basically this one (this might actually be the exact one). It's lightweight and doesn't pack much of a punch or leave me very red, so I don't usually use it.
I use the collar/cuffs, anal toys, and paddle during almost every show. The handcuffs and ball gag have also been really useful, as some guys want to see those specific items. I used to make regular use of the (clover) nipple clamps, but I found another set that are a little less painful and thus can be used more often.
I would probably use the cane/switch more often if it weren't so long and easier to travel with. I don't usually bring it to the Armory.
Is it normal for the help person to just hang out in your room the whole time you stream?
I was on for about 90 mins last night (my second time on the site) and the Kink Help screen name was there the whole time (well, not in privates, thank goodness). Never said a peep. I guess I should have greeted or PMed them but it's all still new to me and I didn't think about that till later. It kind of made me feel like I had a babysitter.
Thymian, it's totally normal. I've been on for many hours and I've had a Kink Help person on the whole time. My impression is they are not always watching attentively, and they don't have their sound on. I just ignore them, personally I couldn't care less who is watching me at any time.
Not all the KINK HELP users are actual techs. They're there so you have a way of contacting support if you need help. The real techs will occasionally check to make sure there's nothing wrong with your feed and that you're playing safe (I had one request that I remove a rope that was attaching my collar to a wall; he couldn't see that it was looped over a hook but not tied). I've met several techs in person and they seem very awesome and not at all creepy, for whatever it's worth.
The last time I was on, I actually had two KINK-HELP people in the room, and neither of them said anything. Tonight I had none. I'm not sure if there's a rhyme or reason to them at all.
@sabihah That was exactly what I wanted to know about the cane and flogger, thanks!
I've been testing out canes a lot lately. My last one was a gift so I've never had to buy one before. It seems like the rattan canes are a bit more bendy than the bamboo canes I've seen, and I've also read that bamboo can splinter worse if you break the cane. I tested out a fiberglass cane and a nylon cane, and those were a huge mistake - if I used those regularly, I would never be able to move or sit down again!
I have so many pairs of nipple clamps already, but I don't have any clover clamps, and even though I probably couldn't take the pain, I really want some. I'm like some kind of nipple clamp addict, lol. Actually, in general I LOVE shopping for kink gear... :)
Thanks, Sophia, Sabihah and Magical. Yeah, I was thinking it was probably more of a way for the models to page for help, plus checking feeds and such, but after being on sites that are pretty hands-off support-wise the concept of help wasn't computing for me, LOL.
I love nipple clamps too Magical! One of my favorites are barrel clamps, which are very adjustable, but snug and don't pull off easily. Damn those doms who want clamps ripped off nips! I suggest checking out a sex shop for clover clamps you can squeeze before you buy as they vary vastly in pinch. I have a pair of fairly mild ones and a pair of very strong ones. The mild ones actually pull off sometimes if you pull too hard! The strong ones kill if you add weights or have delicate bits.
Same! Coming from sites that take forever to get back to you or don't really help.....I love the fact that they are soooo helpful to models. I had a tech issue in a private session that wasn't my fault, and when I emailed them they comped me for my troubles. I was shocked!!! I just wanted to let them know, and only expected them to fix the tech issue. (because honestly, on other sites you are luck if it even gets fixed!) Although it happened 1 or 2 more times after that, I didn't bother them about it because I knew they were working on it, and I didn't want to seem like I just wanted them to comp me again.
They not only have the kink_help in the room but they send newsletters and blog different resources and info. And they are REALLY good with feedback and suggestions! I don't mind if they are creeping in my room & privates, because the trade off is worth it!
Some thoughts!
I have noticed that being "Certified Kinky' has increased my traffic by quite a bit but earnings can still be really inconsistent which can be a bit bothersome; it would be nice to be able to set a bar and know I will earn a certain amount each day but to be honest, I can do the exact same thing and make $800 one night and $50 the next. Although sometimes, I just really don't have the patience to sit around when it's quiet. I feel like on average I am online for about 45 minutes-1 hour before the privates really start. Playing music and talking to myself like a crazy person rather than just sitting in silence really encourages talkers. I find premiums don't really stick around much when it's a bunch of Anon's chatting, but throw a few talkative premiums into the mix and premiums tend to always stick around. The more premiums, the better chance to be taken private immediately by someone when they enter the room. I don't really know if this stuff holds true for other people, it's really just my observations in my own room.
My other major site is mfc, so you can guess what kind of atmosphere I like to have in my room. It drives me nuts to sit around in silence waiting for some guy to find me sexy and Kinklive is so far the only private based site I really have liked but I have definitely put in some major muscle work to making it a different kind of experience.
Another thing... I have found it's not really necessary to log on at the same time every day like it is on mfc. In fact, I actually make more if I rotate a bit, and take turns going on at different times. I think this is due to the relatively low amount of traffic and models.
I thought you might be into nipple clamps, lol! (Actually, I like to imagine that you have a dungeon-level toy box that would make most of our panties fall straight off.)
I haven't tried barrel clamps yet. I always thought they were basically a bulkier version of tweezer clamps, which I think are so cute looking and great for milder play. Of course now I'm curious, and the barrel clamps have to go back on my toy wishlist, too!
I don't know if this is just a thing where I happen to live, but all the sex shops in my city (there aren't many) have really strict policies about not opening packages or testing stuff out. I understand not letting people try out dildos, but you'd think that testing nipple clamps wouldn't be a big deal. Unfortunately, I've asked if I can handle the clover clamps (and I made it clear that I wasn't going to whip out my tit or anything), and they won't let me. They're pretty good about letting me test out the impact toys, though, which you'd think would be a much bigger liability. I don't get it, but oh well.
I've never had anyone try to rip clamps off me, which is probably good because some of my bits are pretty delicate. The furthest I've gotten with that sort of thing is a clothes-pin-zipper on my labia, which made my eyes water, but was aah-mazing.
This is very interesting. Does anyone have any idea how you can be "certified kinky" if you don't buy the set? I have almost all the stuff already, except the cane, which I will be getting shortly. I could swear that they said you could get certified with your own stuff, too. I just haven't seen any info on how to do it.
I've noticed all of this, too. Actually, I've had one premium ask if I could please turn the anons off - I'm not sure why, but I'd guess that the premiums find it a little offensive that they have to share your attention with anons.
I've been trying to split KL with SM, and I'm not sure how to make that work. It works physically and technically for me, but in terms of KL culture, it's not going well. I'm generally pretty busy on SM, and I usually spend less than 10 minutes in free chat at a time. That means that I go on break on KL while I'm in private on SM, and then I come back for a few minutes before I'm on break again. It seems like it's just enough time to get the conversation rolling in the KL free chat, but not enough time to get anyone to take me private on KL. Most of the KL guys recognize that I'm splitting, since I'm clearly talking to a bunch of people that aren't there.
Part of me thinks I should just keep splitting, and over time the KL guys will get "trained" to take me private quickly, before someone else snatches me up. I've successfully "trained" some of my SM guys to do that, so I know they can be taught, lol.
Another part of me thinks I should just work SM and KL separately, because at this rate I'm not going to make any money on KL while splitting, and more importantly, I might be missing the chance to develop regs while the site is still new and not flooded with models. The huge downside of working KL by itself is the sitting in free chat. I get bored and frustrated sooo fast, because my SM room is typically fast-paced. Plus, when I'm splitting, the KL premiums are likely to pick up on the conversations I'm having with my SM guys, and join in faster.
Maybe the answer is to get my ass in gear, and do one time period of splitting, and one time period of KL only.
Yep, that has happened to me more than once! I let anons talk because almost every time I'm on cam, I convert at least one to premium. However, I refuse to give them much personalized attention and always let them know I'll be willing to talk to them more/be more friendly if they add their CC to their account (some anons genuinely don't know how to get premium status).
Also, sometimes support will certify you kinky without you asking or telling you. They did for me. I heard that if a KINK HELP person notices you have a lot of toys and know how to use them, they will just automatically add it. But emailing support is probably the easiest way.
Thanks ladies! I had no idea it was so easy - I'll send them an email and see what happens.
Wow, WTF! That's insane, but good to know. Actually, I had totally forgotten that users could PM each other. In my case the joke's on them, because I don't do anything for tributes in free chat, bwahahaha!
Question about toys and being certified kinky. I don't have any toys right now aside from nipple clamps because I like them but I'm not too much into pain nor am I sub . I plan on getting more into fem domme and was wondering if it would be a good idea to get that stuff to use in my shows on my subs and become certified kinky or would it be a waste of money since I won't actually be using them on myself?
I feel like if you want to make money on the site, you need toys, even if it's just to "act out" what you're doing (like in the case of femdom). I have yet to have any custies who don't expect me to have toys of some sort. I really think that is the sole purpose of certifying models. I have had premiums tell me they don't even bother going into the rooms that don't have the button now, because they will assume the model doesn't have toys.
Even if you're not a sub, I would get some impact toys (I like a crop best, and a cane if you're getting two items). They can be really good for just swishing through the air. Since I enjoy pain, I also like to give myself a good smack on the inner thigh so they can see how painful it looks and how the marks come out. If you want a crop, go to the equestrian section of Amazon - you can get a good one for $6-10 or so.
I'd also strongly encourage getting a strap-on. Sub guys request a strap-on more than any other item I own. I'm actually very surprised that it wasn't included in the Kinky toy set.
Thank for the tips guys <3 all
I wonder if i could work this site by offering fetish shows that are not 'kinky'?! like nylons, lingerie, high-heels, classy outfits? I am pretty vanilla, i do softcore shows, cant really roleplay/ talk much plus i dont own any bdsm items but there is a market on some sites for what i have to offer, how about this site? I signed up but did nothing with my account cause the payment methods, i would have preferred Payoneer but if there is business for me i could try Paxum. Ty for input ladies!