****Prepping BEFORE day 1 *******
sHey Ya'll! ,
So I've been doing a lot of thinking and I have come to the definitive conclusion that this industry is certainly one in which I can shine! But......before I go out there I wanted to know what I can do BEFORE DAY ONE!
....things I'm already doing and would suggest to others..
1. Take iron every day at least a few weeks before day one
2. Take biotin (for skin, hair and nails ::))
3. Take probiotics to help detox my body and lose weight from junk accumulated
5. Take Niacin to boost my metabolism
6. Work out (duh :O)
7. Stretch out my split (I can't do but I've read on average it takes about two months to do)
....things I need advice on.....
1. What percent body fat looks best? Is 18% body fat too low or should I aim more for 24% I keep getting mixed responses on how much muscle tone is too much for girls
2. I was looking into buying a pole but its like 300$ is the investment worth it?
3. If I did buy the pole is 2 months of practicing EVERYDAY with real dedication enough time to get amazing at it? I want to look like a pro before I ever go out on stage (my guilty vanity :-*)
4. My biggest question of all...... Is it a good or bad idea to dance somewhere your old and very good friend also works at? Does the competition tend to beget jealousy or a tighter bond? Jw
Sorry I know it's a lot of questions but I really want to come out there looking like a PRO and ascend from above rather than climb from the bottom (my motto in this game so far)
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1. I have no idea what the difference between 18% and 24% looks like in person and your customers won't either. While having broad appeal and being conventionally attractive is helpful, you're not going to please everyone all the time. It's hard to say what's best because people have different opinions. Doing well as a stripper isn't about being the best looking dancer- it's about finding and hustling the guys who dig you and have money to hustle.
2. That investment does not seem worth it to me, especially before you've even started stripping and don't know for sure if it's a job for you. Pole is maybe 5%-10% of your total time at work, max, and probably about the same proportion of your income (with some important exceptions based on club type, location and experience). I'd never have considered buying my own pole before I was a dancer, and am skeptical even now. What if you find out you hate giving lap dancers or can't stand talking to boring men all night? You'll have a new hobby and an expensive pole in your house. If that's ok with you, go for it, but it is neither necessary and might not even be that helpful to starting a stripping career or side career.
3. No one can answer this for you, since everyone has different strength, natural athletic ability, and because pole is a really specific skill. I think your best bet regarding this and your second question is to try a few pole dancing classes if they have them in your city or nearby. It's a lot cheaper and less time intensive than buying your own $300 pole and trying to teach yourself for two months.
Also, and this is just my opinion obviously, I think waiting two months or even a week to go to a club and get hired is a waste of time and money (both the cost of the pole and the money you are losing by not working in those months). Chances are, most of your money will come from dances, private rooms, and tips. You'd probably do better spending two months improving your conversation and sales skills, reading a few sales books and learning to talk to men well. Even if you are going to end up making most of your money from stage, having the most/best/awesome-est pole tricks isn't how you'll do it. If you end up making your money from stage, chances are you'll develop a specific set routine with good music and lighting that pump up the crowd and make you look good. It'll take being in the club, dancing, trying new things, and experimenting to teach you what moves the audience responds to most and how to work it. None of this is things you can learn in your living room with youtube and a pole.
4. You should talk to that friend. Since you're good friends, hopefully you can ask her what she would think about your working in her club. It depends on what you are both like as individuals if you can make it work. Having a buddy can be helpful with a double hustle (hustling two guys at once or a group of guys), but some dancers prefer to do their own thing. Also, one or both of you might keep your stripping lives separate from other parts of your life, and working together could require some trust around that.
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No matter what you do, you will not look like a pro during your first shift dancing. Get that idea out of your head so you aren't disappointed. You will look awkward and you will feel a little lost -- but that is normal and expected. EVERY dancer starts like that. You will get comfortable and get better and eventually just be another dancer.
As for your questions:
1. Depends on the person. Do you feel confident? Do you look good? That's all that matters. No one will be measuring your body fat percentage.
2. Not unless you want to learn for fun or will be working in urban clubs. Pole tricks aren't going to be your money maker unless you're in an urban club.
3. Don't waste your time. Spend those two months just dancing instead and make some money. You will not look like a pro your first time on stage anyway, so you may as well just get it over with.
4. Depends on the people in question.
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Just go in.. learn as you go.. work some slow dayshifts to get used to it and practice your dancing. Pole work is NOT that important where you need to spend 300$ plus months of practice.
I think you're over thinking the whole thing. Your prepping for Day 1 should just take a week tops: workout every day, eat healthy, drink water, get some stripper heels, pick your outfit, and go in!
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JadeRage
1. What percent body fat looks best? Is 18% body fat too low or should I aim more for 24% I keep getting mixed responses on how much muscle tone is too much for girls
2. I was looking into buying a pole but its like 300$ is the investment worth it?
3. If I did buy the pole is 2 months of practicing EVERYDAY with real dedication enough time to get amazing at it? I want to look like a pro before I ever go out on stage (my guilty vanity [/COLOR][/FONT]:-*)
[COLOR=#ff0000]4. My biggest question of all...... Is it a good or bad idea to dance somewhere your old and very good friend also works at? Does the competition tend to beget jealousy or a tighter bond? Jw
1. Girls of many different sizes and shapes do this job and make money. As long as you are in shape for your size, carry your weight well and dress to show off your assets-it won't matter.
2&3. Pole work isn't a necessity at most clubs. If you want to pursue pole dancing as a hobby, go for it. It's fun, a great work out and gives you something to do on stage when the club is quiet. It's uncommon for customers to tip more or less depending on your pole skills. As a newbie, focus more on dancing slowly and sensually. Even girls who have taken a pole classes prior to starting look "new" due to not knowing how to move in between tricks etc. You will pick this up in time though.
4. It depends on the person, everyone is different and you won't know until you work with her. I would recommend not shadowing her constantly though, unless she asks if you want to try and sell a double. At least OTC, you will have someone who is supportive and understanding about the job/industry (that can be a benefit of having friends who also work in the industry).
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Hey idk about the body fat thing, but I would skip buying the pole unless you are interested in pole dancing as a hobby. You do NOT need to look like a pro, I thought that, too at first. As others have said just move slowly and maybe practice a little floorwork at home. Don't worry about looking new, I don't even notice new girls anymore. Not because I think I'm better but because there are always so many new girls that fly in and out I can't keep track lol.
As for the friend thing, if she is a very good friend she might be happy to see you there. As long as you're working the room and not stepping on her toes (i.e taking her regulars, interrupting her conversations) you will be fine.
Oh and also: I have no upper arm strength but learned to climb the pole in a half hour, and sit and slide down backwards in a day. So yes, in 2 months you could probably be pretty good depending on how much time you spend practicing.
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1. What percent body fat looks best? Is 18% body fat too low or should I aim more for 24% I keep getting mixed responses on how much muscle tone is too much for girls
People are not assembly line androids. Every body is different. It depends on your age height, etc. Nobody is going to be prodding you to measure your body fat and BMI. Gah!!!! The only numbers you should be worried about is how much money you are making. I don't even care how much I weigh anymore. I look good in the mirror and naked. That's what counts.
2. I was looking into buying a pole but its like 300$ is the investment worth it?
It's your money. I can't really talk about frivolous purchases because I bought an R2D2 trash can for $400 off Amazon.
3. If I did buy the pole is 2 months of practicing EVERYDAY with real dedication enough time to get amazing at it? I want to look like a pro before I ever go out on stage (my guilty vanity )
Pole tricks for $$$ IMO are bread and circuses unless the bulk of your income is derived from stages. (Ex. KOD in Miami) Chump change. If you want to do it for you go ahead.
4. My biggest question of all...... Is it a good or bad idea to dance somewhere your old and very good friend also works at? Does the competition tend to beget jealousy or a tighter bond? Jw
Your best friend can become your worst enemy. You may wind up becoming her "All About Eve". As a veteran things are different. I have worked with my friends but with the understanding that our friendship ends the minute we set foot at work.
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^ Fuck me! I want an R2D2 trash can too
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1. Every guy likes something different, every club likes something different. I've seen strippers that look almost like skeletons and strippers that weigh 300 pounds. There is no across the board standard. That's why you're getting mixed responses. The most important thing is for YOU to look the best YOU are capable of. Don't overthink it.
2. No. Pole tricks don't matter. My club doesn't even have a pole. Only places I've seen pole tricks making girls more money are black clubs where the girls are lightyears ahead of you practice and experience wise. You're gonna look like a newbie no matter how much you practice. Don't buy a pole unless you want it for YOU, like for working out. But it's not going to make you more money.
3. You're going to look like a newbie no matter how prepared you are...you'll just look like a prepared newbie. And your hustle is way more important than pole tricks anyway.
4. This I have no experience with. It does sound dangerous though.
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My body fat is at 22% and I'm tempted to try to trim even more... but I don't think I'd be seeing the same thing in the mirror as everybody else if I did that.