application for a club is complicated help!!
Its asking me to fill out a w9, employment eligibility verification, and a licensing agreement with the club. This is more than I have ever filled out. Usually I just walk in amd start working. Are these necessary or should I look at a different club? I don't want this to show up on my record though its a bit of a secret.
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I have always had to fill out paperwork, but never a W9... I filled out an employment form, an agreement to be an independent contractor, and an anti-prostitution agreement.
Did you ask why they need so much paperwork? If you're an independent contractor there's no reason you should be filling out a W9. That's a form that says how much you need taken out of your paycheck for taxes, but the club ain't paying you? I would move on unless they have a good explanation...
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I've filled out paperwork like that every time I've gotten hired.
I'm no expert, but here is my lay-person knowledge of this:
The w9 and employment eligibility forms are necessary to work at that club that requires you to pay taxes and be legally able to work in the U.S. (like with a work visa or a U.S. citizen). You'll receive an IRS form from the club sometime between jan 1 and april 15th reporting some amount you made in the club the previous year (they might track the amount of funny money you exchange, or like my home club track the number of private or VIP dances you do and report that as your income) and you'll have to pay taxes on that.
As for the liscencing agreement with the club, that's probably very club specific and you should read it to see if you agree with it and are comfortable working there based on their rules. In my experience, hardly any of such contracts are "enforced" in the club, but it's to cover their asses legally or meet particular local codes, etc.
Who is it a secret from and what record are you worried about it showing up on? There are some forums in dollar den and such about how a dancer tax record or employment history might show up in credit reports (you can remove it) or some types of employee background checks (I'm not entirely sure about how that would happen), but it's not like filling out those forms will expose you to family or friends.
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NEVERMIND... TOTAL BLONDE MOMENT! Tots thinking of a W4, not a W9. Looked up W9 online and it seems normal to me, I personally haven't filled out one of those before but it's basically just a way for the club to issue you a form that you will fill out yourself when you need to do your taxes. Your club must just be a bit more above board than mine!
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If you don't want a paper trail for your stripping, yes, find a different club. Just know that (a) an increasing number of clubs are keeping paper trails for their dancers and (b) in most cases, this won't turn up on a regular background check (unless you're looking for high-level government/security work or working with children, etc.) or be an issue.
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^^^ actually, since January 1st, the Affordable Care Act now requires ALL US businesses to issue 1099's to the IRS reporting cash payments made to any person which amount to more than $600 in a single year. Thus the necessity of now filling out a W9 form to enable the club to file the 1099. And the IRS receiving that 1099 will in turn cause the IRS computers to search for a matching tax return having been filed by the person whose name and social security number match the 1099 form, with taxes paid on the amount of income reported via the 1099 form.
The 1099 form issued by the club becomes part of your IRS record, which in turn is potentially accessible to any 'sensitive' straight job employer, any state professional licensing agency, etc. Or put another way, unless the club is operating as an 'outlaw', as of January 1st there isn't any 'legal' way for a dancer to stay 'off the books' any longer.
Of course, that doesn't mean that clubs can't be found that will still operate on a 100% 'cash' basis without 1099 reporting. But if the club ownership is corporate, or the least bit 'high profile', odds are that they are going to follow the new law regarding the tracking of moneys paid to dancers and the issuance of 1099's at the end of the year. The Affordable Care Act also approved funds for the IRS to hire thousands of additional auditors, so the odds of a club being caught operating 'off the books' are now much higher than in the past.
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ick! find a different club if you don't want it on your paper trail. i've never worked in a club where they even 1099ed me or w2ed me. a lot of them are starting to do that, but there are still a ton out there who don't
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Hmmm ill look around town then. Me and husband are seperated, but we still file taxes together to save a nit of money. I was more concerned if he's going to see that or there will be a significant decrease on our income taxes to where he will start asking questions.
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If you're not planning on declaring any of your income (which you essentially have to if you're trying to hide it from him but are filing together… this really seems like a recopy for disaster IMHO), best find yourself a little hole in the wall club that doesn't have VIP/CR, funny money, or otherwise require the club to collect money from the customer and pay it out to you.