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^^^ again I'll point out that there are worlds of difference between the legal profession and pharmacy. To be blunt, virtually every court case involves the opportunity for a 'clever' attorney to apply a unique insight or 'twist', such that excellence versus competence makes a potential difference in the end result. In contrast, in today's world of FDA approved pre-packaged drugs, all that a competent pharmacist needs to be able to do these days is operate the pharmacy computer ( which automatically performs prescription paperwork, drug interaction searches, etc. ) and count pills correctly. Corporate drug store chains seeking to maximize their bottom lines, and hospitals looking to avoid bankruptcy as a result of unreimbursed / under-reimbursed mandated medical treatments it is forced to provide, are likely to prefer a competent pharmacist over an excellent one ... since competence versus excellence makes no difference whatsoever in the end result, and since the competent pharmacist is less likely to go 'shopping' for higher pay / better working conditions than an excellent one.
Also, unlike the legal profession, pharmacists are now also facing increased competition from 'automation' ... see and The rationale behind automatic prescription dispensing machines is that a single pharmacist working 'day shift' can set up the machine to operate through the 'off shifts' without the need for a second or third pharmacist being on the payroll, or that a single pharmacist can set up multiple machines at multiple locations thus eliminating the need for yet more pharmacists on the payroll.
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Melonie, I understand what you are saying. My point is that regardless of whether pharmacists need to be competent or excellent, my sentiments remain the same that the OP can get a job in her field. Upon hiring someone, even if the employer is solely looking for "competency," showing that you excelled in your collegiate career as well as in your work experience will definitely look better than the applicant who had a mediocre college career and mediocre work experience.
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dancingdiva1
Nina- that's great. Good for you.
Moral of the story is that regardless of internships and grades or whatever - this girl will have a difficult time finding a job if they find out she was a stripper. Hospitals don't give a shit if you struggled in college. They don't want to jeopardize themselves by hiring someone who was a sex worker. There are many people who were in the sex industry who work in the medical field and that's wonderful (they obviously were never discovered)- however, it would be crazy to be so naive to avoid the fact that hiring standards are wayyyyyy higher then they use to be due to the shitty economy and it would be wise to think twice about what you do, particularly if your leaving behind a paper trail of working as a adult entertainer.
Who was being naive by avoiding the fact that hiring standards are "wayyyyyy" higher than they used to be? I clearly stated in my previous posts that because it's harder to find a job today even if you have a degree for that particular job, people pursuing these jobs should make sure they have set themselves ahead of the competition in the ways I mentioned to the OP. I most definitely addressed the issue of how much harder it is to get jobs these days than it used to be. My posts prove that.
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^^^ and it's also possible ( as was my own case as a Respiratory Therapist ) that you can make it all the way through the State Professional Licensing the first time around, but then have your history of 'adult industry' work turn up as the result of a License renewal with new background check !!! So the REAL equation boils down to the lost opportunity costs of investing tens ( or hundreds ) of thousands of dollars worth of tuition money plus untold hours of studying ( during which time the student isn't earning money as a dancer ), versus the expected additional income potential once the student graduates, obtains a professional license, and starts collecting a paycheck.
Where the profession of Pharmacy is concerned, IMHO the potential 'positive' return on investment is now marginal under best case conditions. Having an 'adult industry' background limit future pharmacist job opportunities, thus the size of future pharmacist paychecks, could very well swing a marginally 'winning' proposition into a 'losing' proposition. Throwing student loan debt / interest payments on top of that return on investment equation only makes the risk of 'losing' even higher.
And I really hate to 'rain on anybody's parade', but I'd be doing the OP a dis-service if I didn't point out the following ... from
(snip)Joliet, IL (October 14, 2011) — Silver Cross Hospital announces it has begun offering InstyMeds, a fully automated ATM-style machine that dispenses prescription medications directly to patients immediately before leaving either the Silver Cross Joliet or Homer Glen Emergency Departments. The system offers a safe, convenient way for patients to receive their prescription medications.
instymeds 003“This new system eliminates the need for patients to have to wait for their prescription at a nearby pharmacy when they’re not feeling well. They can now have those prescriptions filled in our Emergency Departments,” says Theresa Quinn, Administrative Director for Ambulatory Care at Silver Cross Hospital. “InstyMeds helps them get back on the road to recovery as soon as possible.”
The InstyMeds system automates the entire process from the prescriber issuing the prescription, to the patient obtaining their medications, and payment collection. The patient can obtain their medications and be on their way in about the same time it takes them to use their bank ATM.
“The added convenience will help to ensure that patients fill and take their prescribed medications leading to faster recovery,” says Dr. Daniel Checco, Medical Director at the Silver Cross Free-Standing Emergency Care Center. “We continue to support our local pharmacies for the more complex or expensive medications; however for those patients who want the added convenience, the immediate service provided by the InstyMeds system can’t be beat.”
and from
(snip)"Vending machines are doling out healthier snacks, and prescription drugs, too.
InstyMeds machines, which dispense antibiotics, inhalers and sometimes powerful painkillers, have popped up at hospitals and clinics across the country, giving patients immediate, round-the-clock access to medications.
Instead of going to pharmacies, patients enter a security code that details their prescriptions and insurance coverage. A quick swipe of a debit or credit card, and the machine dispenses the medication in a prepackaged, labeled container. According to the company’s website, InstyMeds offers the “safety and security of an ATM with the simplicity of a soda machine.”
“When you need an anti-diarrhea medication, you don’t want to wait an hour,” said InstyMeds CEO Brad Schraut. ‘If you’re sick, you’re in pain, you want that medication now.”
InstyMeds machines can hold up to 102 drugs for acute ailments, such as injuries and infections"(snip)
The 'handwriting on the wall' here is that, to partially make up for declining Medicaid / Medicare / Obamacare insurance reimbursements, hospitals and clinics are already installing automated 'prescription' machines to supply many common meds which the hospital / clinic doctors have just prescribed. This allows a single pharmacist to 'service' several machines in several hospital and clinic locations, and allows the hospital / clinic to 'bank' the prescription price markup instead of a local / corporate chain pharmacy. This in turn reduces the volume of prescription sales at said local / corporate chain pharmacy, potentially leading to fewer pharmacists being employed and/or pharmacy closings.
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Might I add that there are also Carib med schools... they are used to "second chance" students and are even less likely to care about a stripping license...
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I'm a pre med student and a stripper. I honestly have no clue if I can get denied my MD for it. I've heard a million conflicting things. All I know is that at this point in my life, it's my only fucking way to get through school. So I'm taking my chances.
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Is there any way to strip and not disclose the location of income? For example, what if I said I got the money from fixing computers for my neighbors and family (which I actually have done, and created a website for a business)? There are several address for that. Or my own residential address if I work for home?
I really want this job without the consequences. As long as I'm paying taxes like everyone else I don't see the problem :/
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stripperstudent
Is there any way to strip and not disclose the location of income? For example, what if I said I got the money from fixing computers for my neighbors and family (which I actually have done, and created a website for a business)? There are several address for that. Or my own residential address if I work for home?
I really want this job without the consequences. As long as I'm paying taxes like everyone else I don't see the problem :/
u can do whatever u want on your taxes but if a club is issuing a w-2/1099 then that info will be accessible by anyone who wants to find it.
u want this job without the consequences? u do realize that that's why this job is so lucrative-there are a ton of fucking consequences. otherwise everyone would be a stripper and there would be no $. u have to take a huge risk to get that reward.
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[QUOTE=charlotte.;2596520\
u want this job without the consequences? u do realize that that's why this job is so lucrative-there are a ton of fucking consequences. otherwise everyone would be a stripper and there would be no $. u have to take a huge risk to get that reward.[/QUOTE]
THANK YOU! i don't mean to be rude op, but if you want this job then it does come with consequences. you don't get something for nothing, its just a rule of life. no such thing as a free ride. we face social stigma, risk future job opportunities, it drains you on every level -physically, emotionally, mentally. that's why the pay out is so great.
now if you can find a club with NO paper trail, you will be a lot safer. that is becoming increasingly hard to find though.
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No its fine I understand. Makes sense. If anyone knows about any clubs that don't give out tax papers or whatever...let me know
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You may have better luck in Portland. Is that an option?
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Possibly in the summer! I'm gonna go talk to my club and see what I can do. Doubt it'll work out but its worth a try!
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charlotte.
u can do whatever u want on your taxes but if a club is issuing a w-2/1099 then that info will be accessible by anyone who wants to find it.
Not so fast. The IRS will not release W-2 or 1099 information without a release or a subpoena. No questions, no exceptions. And, they will generally fight a subpoena and you will get a chance to be heard on that issue too. So the only other way the IRS will ever release W-2 or 1099 information is via form 4506T. When the IRS receives form 4506T they will provide a transcript of a the last three years tax returns. On those transcripts are line numbers a very brief description of the line's title and dollar amounts. For example: line 7 (wages) $11234. No where on the transcript does there appear a description of the source of the number on any line. An accountant or lawyer, or just someone who does a lot of tax returns will know that line 7 usually means a W-2 from somewhere and Line 8a usually implies a 1099 INT, but not always. The taxpayer could be estimating interest income. Line 9a and 9b imply a form 1099-DIV. Again, the taxpayer may be estimating or may be relying on actual 1099-DIVs. In any case, the IRS will not divulge how many 1099-DIVs a taxpayer received, from whom or for how much. Of course carried interest is reported on line 13, not line 9a or 9b. Again, the IRS will provide no explanation in response to a 4506T.
To find out what the IRS is holding back requires a much deeper background check than what "anyone" can obtain. It requires either a warrant issued by a court based on probable cause. (That's your grand jury and criminal type of thing.) Or it can come from the FISA court and be held completely secret. Of course, a professional licensing agency would be a very rare agency that even can get access to the FISA court. (Basically limited to the CIA, FBI and NSA.)
In short, your W-2 and 1099 are not going to be the source of some background check finding out you worked in the adult industry. If law enforcement wants to know where you work/worked, they have other ways of finding out that will actually produce your employment record. If some state licensing board wants to know about your employment history, they will not waste their time trying to decipher your tax return since the information is simply not there. Instead, they'll ask their state employment security commission, state liquor control board or state industrial board who probably does know. And, if you work in a state or county or city that licenses adult entertainers, they will simply ask those licensing boards.
HTH
Z
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If you're going to stretch the rules with taxes, a few factors come into play with whether this is a good idea or not, the biggest two being what legal documentation you having linking your name to any stripping business liscenses/tax forms, municipal liscenses, etc, and the amount of income you are making from dancing versus your business income, and the amount of income you are making collectively. I will speak for canadians who may see this thread (and because I'm not sure how much of this applies to americans and citizens of other countries), that I've spoke to a few different accountants, one who helped me with my taxes last year, and another whom we got into this during a big conversation at the club. Both said that when your income you are declaring is totaling under 30k, it highly unlikely you will get an audit, because it will cost the CRA more to investigate than any additional taxes they might gain from you. That said, if you're a dancer getting issued tax forms or holds a liscense, and banking over 30K, you shouldn't mess around. If you're making less than that, or you don't have any documentation of dancing, you have more flexibility.
I declared all of my income under my business for 2012. I will probably start separating them out for 2013, because 1) I actually can, as I've gotten much better at keeping on top of my records, and 2) my income is getting too high, and 3) in 2014 I want to really start growing my business, so everything needs to start being legit. I think it depends on what stage your business is at, if you are thinking about applying for loans or credit or looking for investors, anything where you might need to use your tax return as proof of income for your business, I say keep your business and dancing income separate for sure. But if you're just starting? The government really just cares that you are declaring the income, and really what is the difference between sale of dresses versus sale of lapdances? as long as the total of all those sales are being declared, they're happy. If your business is a sole proprietorship, which is essentially an extension of you, as you personally are liable for/own all of the business assets. When you're dealing with a corporation that's a different story, and you must separate the two as they are two separate legal entities requiring two separate tax returns regardless.
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ahem ... from
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State Professional Licensing Agencies, as well as 'sensitive' employers, WILL require applicants to sign a 4506-T disclosure form.
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I am not planning on reaching the 30k mark at ALL haha most I'll make in a year is 20K if even that! I'm planning on just saying I fix computers etc or something and putting it on a 1099 that I work from home so I won't have to list the people who pay me.
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stripperstudent
I am not planning on reaching the 30k mark at ALL haha most I'll make in a year is 20K if even that! I'm planning on just saying I fix computers etc or something and putting it on a 1099 that I work from home so I won't have to list the people who pay me.
If the club you're working at issues 1099s, that's not going to fly.
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I dont think u understand how 1099s and taxes work. your club fills the 1099 for u and sends it to the irs. u fill out your taxes. u can do whatever u want on your taxes (just be aware it could backfire later) but if your club 1099s u then the irs has a copy of the amount of $$ that was paid to u by this clubs specific business id.
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The 1099 is a report of what the club paid her. Its not going to be much, Shes going to make the majority of her tips in cash. Then she can write off her nails, hair, shoes, outfits, meals, gym membership, car mileage, cell phone and whatever else she sees fit to reduce the amount of taxes she has to pay.
..... Although its possible if some of her "tips" or VIPS are on ccs they may include that. Either way she can up her self-employed expenses. Shes not going to end up with a 1099 saying she made 70K and have to pay on that.
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stripperstudent, I merged your two threads on the topic since they both refer to the same sorts of questions about your situation. That's why some questions and answers from your other thread are bounced over here. Thanks for all the helpful insight so far, everyone!
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Gia2608
The 1099 is a report of what the club paid her. Its not going to be much, Shes going to make the majority of her tips in cash. Then she can write off her nails, hair, shoes, outfits, meals, gym membership, car mileage, cell phone and whatever else she sees fit to reduce the amount of taxes she has to pay.
..... Although its possible if some of her "tips" or VIPS are on ccs they may include that. Either way she can up her self-employed expenses. Shes not going to end up with a 1099 saying she made 70K and have to pay on that.
i dont think she cares how much is reported, she just doesn't want the name of the club connected. but if the club pays out over $600 then they will send an official 1099 which will link her to the strip club.
also, even if u write off stuff to pay less taxes your initial amount reported is technically your income.
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No. Its not your income. When you are self employed the amount on the 1099 is considered a gross profit and you only pay taxes on the net income. I do my taxes this way every year for a business that I have. Also most clubs have some type of DBA for business and taxation purposes. For example a "Gold Club" would often appear as GC Industries LLC on tax and banking info.
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You have nothing to worry about.
1) Getting into pharmacy school or med school will not be affected by you working as a stripper and having a stripper license.
2) Employers care about your criminal history and credit history when they do a back ground check.
3) It is unlikely that your strip club job will appear on your file but if it does no need to worry because almost all strip clubs operate under names that don't resemble the name of the club so employers won't even know what the company is when they see.
I have held licenses in 3 different states and they have never shown on my back ground reports. Also, my sister worked for 6 years as a stripper before going to dental school and now works for a large Dental group, she was licensed in Cali and Vegas.
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^^ #3, yes, I forgot about that! The club that W-2'd me when I was a cocktail waitress, it showed up as some vague restaurant name, Blah Blah Steakhouse I think.
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Selina M
^^ #3, yes, I forgot about that! The club that W-2'd me when I was a cocktail waitress, it showed up as some vague restaurant name, Blah Blah Steakhouse I think.
Yup! I remembered one of my clubs showed up as a Bistro of some sort. They aways have discreet names, at least the ones I've worked at.