Re: Conflicting Standards?
I think the risk of a citation is really low. The manager was telling you that to absolve himself of the responsibility on the off chance that something did happen. But if you want to keep your top on, go ahead and keep it on, your choice. Don't let anyone pressure you.
Also, customers will tell you how to make more money and what to say and how to do your job, but they are FULL OF SHIT. Seriously, never listen to them about that crap- I've had customers tell me "You're not gonna make money in that outfit" when I've already made $500+ that evening, and so on, blah blah blah. They're just giving unsolicited advice on this stuff because they don't want to think that a stripper might know more about something than they do, and they want to feel like the big man. Whatever. You'll get sick of that shit really quick.
Re: Conflicting Standards?
Honestly, I never really listen to what managers tell me about how the club works because it's usually bullshit. I don't why but it just usually is. I just try and find a girl who looks nice and ask her questions on the first day, I can usually find a nice, quiet girl who keeps to herself that's happy to tell me the ropes.
I worked at a club in LA for a while and when I started working the manager told me that they only did air dances there and that every girl that made money walked around nude. Total bullshit. Not one girl was doing an air dance, and even though a few girls did walk around nude, they weren't the ones banking.
However, in your situation it's a bit different. I'm not surprised about the pole tricks and lewd-ness on stage, but I am very surprised that your manager is totally OK with having girls take their tops off in a bikini club, something that would get the club fined or shut down in a millisecond if a cop were to walk in there. Where are you located? Because in a lot of states serving alcohol means that it's totally against the law for their to be nudity. I mean, I had a friend who danced one weekend in Vegas at a topless club, she normally danced nude in LA and she just totally forgot where she was for a second while giving a lap dance and took her bottoms off... they fired her in less than 5 seconds. If you are worried about keeping your dancing under the radar, I do not think this club is for your because they are playing with fire.
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If you were desperate for money, I might suggest risking the citation. But honestly, how would you feel if you were to receive a citation? What exactly would the consequences likely be for you? If you think through exactly what receiving one would entail, and you think it's still worth the risk, then do your thing. Be sure that you're dancing with the full acceptance that you may get caught. Don't risk a citation thinking that "everything will probably be fine...maybe."
I'm assuming that the earnings ceiling is pretty low in your club (small bikini club), so be sure to take that into consideration (e.g. are you putting your clean background check on the line for $100/week or $1000/week?).
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+1 on everything charlie said.
Is there another club you could go to, maybe in a nearby city or county with different laws? Without knowing where you are, it's impossible to speculate how likely it is that you'll get a citation. In my home city they take the laws very seriously. In a nearby city where I work no one follows the actual laws on the books, and it usually doesn't matter but one year they went through a phase of cracking down for a few months, out of nowhere. In another nearby city (that actually has similar laws regarding toplessness) it is a known risk that you may get a citation, and the girls that go topless just don't care (at least that's what I've heard, I've never worked there personally). So it's just hard to say what kind of risk it is.
Can you wear pasties? In my home city the girls are required to wear tape over their nipples, and the first couple times I went I never even noticed because they color in the tape like nipples.
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Frankly.... I wouldn't risk it, especially given the fact that you work with children. That citation is likely a prostitution citation. And honestly, I'm surprised that the club managers would EVER allow that to jeopardize their business... All it takes is one vice cop to screw you to the wall, unless there are hefty payoffs involved. I'd find a new place to work, pronto.
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Fionaver
Frankly.... I wouldn't risk it, especially given the fact that you work with children. That citation is likely a prostitution citation. And honestly, I'm surprised that the club managers would EVER allow that to jeopardize their business... All it takes is one vice cop to screw you to the wall, unless there are hefty payoffs involved. I'd find a new place to work, pronto.
And while we'd all like to think that our world is evolved enough to be understanding of a sex work-related citation, we all know it isn't. When you're sitting in front of future employers and they casually say "We'll be running a background check to make sure everything is in order - do you anticipate any issues with that?"...to have to say "Well, actually, yes, there is this one thing..."
It's already hard enough to get hired in this day and age! The anxiety of the risk simply wouldn't be worth it to me, even if that risk were small.
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ChloeInHeels
I'm not in a position where I'd be okay with the citation on my record. My other job involves working with children and getting background checks
well then, there is your answer isn't it?
you would be crazy to risk your entire future
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i wanted to work with kids too and be a kindergarten teacher, but one little mistep prevented that forever. anything related to the sex industry is EXTREMELY frowned upon by them ( to put it lightly). so i'd also make sure there isn't a paper trail linking you to stripping just to be safe. and no, i'd find a different club. in a lot of clubs, there's the law that they have to tell you to cover their own asses, and then there's how things are done by everyone. they all just take that risk. but since you wanna work with kids, that's not a risk you should be willing to take.