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Porn Stars taking cam over?
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I see more and more porn stars on cam working, do you think it will hurt our (non-porn stars) money?
It looks that way to me. I know the porn material gets stolen/downloaded to free sites, and that sucks!
I'm no way dogging on porn stars, but I think more and more are crossing over to webcam, if a website
doesn't have that much traffic to accommodate everyone, what do you think will happen?
Just wondering if anyone else see's this trend.
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Pornstars started cam.
Theyve always been around, and will always have a bigger market then cam girls.
Thats why cam girls go into porn, for the status they can bring back to cam.
Mammey Kisher does HORRIBLE on streamate for the most part.
I think mostly because she expects them to throw money at her
and has a better then thow attitude, Even though shes beautiful.
Benna Nameson did MFC for a bit, But i think there was a hidden agenda.
Mostly just a bunch of fan boys, doggers, or men who where too intimidated to tip.
Anyways, theyve always been here, Nothings changed... Just go back to ingoring them :P
I edited the names to avoid "calling out cam girls".
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I love to see pornstars on :). I don't think they affect my income in any type of way and I love to perv their rooms. And like Buffy said they started cam shows. Nina Hartley has been doing them for YEARS before camming caught on to what it is today. It's room for everyone in this industry <3
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I don't think they're taking over, I they're doing cam more and more. If anything, it humbles me to be on the same site-sometimes page-as legends :)
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It won't not every porn star can be a good webcam model.
Just because I've done a few videos doesn't mean skaut as for what i make when i am camming or even escorting.
I can list a handful of porn stars who cam on streamate who are dead boring. I make my money no matter who is on.
Even perved in (edit) room, she was practically sleeping on cam.
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just wanted to clarify on my edits in this thread, even though porn stars are well known (ie: not outing per se) I don't think sw is the place to gossip about/trash our peers
as far as porn stars in general and camming...porn stars weren't the first camgirls; amateur chicas in non-Western nations were. the rest of us jumped on board after the market was created. Beyond that, sure some 'big names' do really well but there will always be a place for amateurs. a year or two back there was a huge tempest in a teapot here on sw predicting that we'd all be cast aside in favor of 'big name' stars and quelle suprise that never occurred. A couple of the main reasons why:
a) not every guy wants a big name star, being an amateur is an allure in and of itself
b) long term success in camming requires a hustle, a drive, a commitment. Creativity and perseverance aren't qualities reserved for 'stars'
porn doesn't pay very well so it makes sense that more film actresses are crossing over into camming, but that doesn't mean the amateurs are losing our place or our share of the $$$$. look at every major (or minor) cam site and there are amateurs banking. sure having a 'name' may grant a chica an initial boost but beyond that it's about camming skills. every chica, porn star or amateur starts out from scratch in that regard.
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Hmmm, never thought about that when I was doing it.
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I don't believe for a moment that big name porn stars will ever take over cam sites or camming. Sure, there will be porn stars who have what it takes to deal with a room, beggars, trolls, have interesting things to talk about, and just plain have that added strand of DNA that makes them interesting as a person.
I have seen a few porn stars try to be cam girls and they really are not good at handling people. Others do fine. Just because a porn star looks fabulous in that movie doesn't mean she has the ability to say much more in her room than, "Come on guys, take me private...." "Come on guys... it's only $5 for the Gold show..." Guys bore of that real fast. They want a cam girl that is multidimensional and actually is more than just someone who overtly wants your money.
This is why the everyday girl next door will do fine alongside the porn star on any sites line up. The "porn star" tag or famous name may get the guy INTO the room, but it is the girl behind the cam who KEEPS them IN the room or coming back for more!
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BuffyFlame
Pornstars started cam.
The first porn stars to appear on a webcam wasn't until 2000 to 2001. The first amateurs began appearing online as early as 1994 to 1995.
Porn stars will never overtake camming. They are a niche, just like everyone else.
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Not at all. Pornstars have graced cam for a while and honestly, I don't blame them because the money is there and porn has really gone south. I saw Nina Hartley the other day and I have sooo much love for her! However, she wasn't even on the 1st page :( Anyway, nobody hurts my earnings but me. Porn star or non :)
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Porn stars are a novelty. If anything I think it's a good thing... they bring their fans over to cam sites then their fans discover amateur girls to spend money on. It doesn't seem like most big names last very long on cam anyway.
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I actually suspect porn stars bring more traffic in to our sites than they cost us. I love hearing about a household name on my sites. :D
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Thanks for replying! It's nice to get feedback from other webcam models. I have nothing against anyone, but it's nice to get others opinions. I've been camming since 2001. It still pays the bills :-)
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Sabihah
I actually suspect porn stars bring more traffic in to our sites than they cost us. I love hearing about a household name on my sites. :D
Totally agree, Big names bring in traffic. Even if it isn't a big name but if they have a strong fan base, yes. And if they have their studio advertising and bringing in traffic from elsewhere. When you are on big sites you can't help but to browse.
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Nah I don't think it'll hurt our profits cause their prices are like ours but because they have more experience/exposure/etc that's what makes them automatically more popular and known so of course people wanna see what they are like live but they're models with different looks/features/services and guys look out for that too. Porn star or not, guys are looking for that special something you offer.
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No they didn't. They used to look down on cam performers and make fun of us. Most didn't start to cam until the pay rate on shoots went down and they needed money.
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Originally Posted by
BuffyFlame
Pornstars started cam.
Theyve always been around, and will always have a bigger market then cam girls.
Thats why cam girls go into porn, for the status they can bring back to cam.
Mammey Kisher does HORRIBLE on streamate for the most part.
I think mostly because she expects them to throw money at her
and has a better then thow attitude, Even though shes beautiful.
Benna Nameson did MFC for a bit, But i think there was a hidden agenda.
Mostly just a bunch of fan boys, doggers, or men who where too intimidated to tip.
Anyways, theyve always been here, Nothings changed... Just go back to ingoring them :P
I edited the names to avoid "calling out cam girls".
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I gotta give them props for their patience when dealing with these groupies in their public chat. With all the guys saying "I watched that scene of you on ____, and I came so hard!," I would've felt like shouting "Yeah, cool...are you gonna chip into the Gold show or not?!" LMAO.
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I also think porn stars who want to get out of the limelight of being *A PORN STAR* prefer camming because it's good money and doesn't require them to even leave their home. Several porn stars on SM have publically claimed to no longer work in the 'adult industry' (on a documentary on Netflix, no less), but probably have found doing any kind of "PG" work difficult to obtain.
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@TheBrownFox Right? It would especially piss me off knowing that few (if any) of my "fans" had actually paid to see me. "Hey, just wanted to let you know how much I've enjoyed jerking it to hundreds of your videos on tube sites over the past few years. No no, you go ahead and do your gold show without me, I'll just mosey on over to Pornhub and watch your facial compilation while I wait for you to come back." >:(
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On AW, the porn stars and TV celebrities tend to charge far more than anyone else, so that makes them less competitive with the rest of us on that basis, and they're in a particular niche just as we are in a niche...they bring in traffic and that's good for all of us.
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Competition, should just make you up your game.
Cam girls are the NEW porn stars of today.
There are some very famous cam girls who have huge followings & loyal fans just like porn stars. You can do the same.
There are NO royalties in porn. Porn biz is pretty much dead. Huffington post has written 80% of porn companies have gone under & I would believe it.
So porn girls have 2 options, hook or cam. Many of them became hookers, the rest of us cam.
You have the exact same playing field as any porn star to be a big name. If you worry about competition, then maybe camming isn't for you.
I've been camming since 2006. Taylor Stevens has been on Ifriends since 2001 or so. Will more start camming, yes.
Will more porn companies jump on the camming bandwagon cause it is the only thing left making money on the web? Yes The next few years should be interesting.
Sam
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I don't think porn stars are 'taking over' webcaming. They are getting smart and realizing that webcamming is the FUTURE of porn. Yes there are porn stars who have the advantage of popularity before they start caming... but there are many regular cam girls with no porn past who are the top earning girls on sites and make more than porn stars do.
My trademark and what gets people into my room is that I'm not a porn star... and I make sure to remind them of that! My regulars love it.
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It's only fair, we took over their industry. Lol.
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Porn stars have an advantage because most of them know stage presence and the art of creating a character because they have already done that in their other sector (porn star status). That is the real key to making money on cam. But that doesn't mean a random cam girl can't do the same thing.
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Porn stars have an advantage because most of them know stage presence and the art of creating a character because they have already done that in their other sector (porn star status).
Stated a different way, porn star camgirls have already established a 'brand'. That 'brand' helps to attract both cross-over existing porn fan customers, as well as attracting first time cam customers. However, where repeat customers are concerned, performance and personality matter where 'name recognition' arguably does not. Also, at some point, price level matters to repeat customers as well.
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Will more porn companies jump on the camming bandwagon cause it is the only thing left making money on the web? Yes The next few years should be interesting.
Indeed changing technology forces changes in the industry. When I first started out adult video rentals were bankrupting adult theaters. Then cable TV adult pay per view started bankrupting adult video rental stores. Now porn star camming is ( slowly ) bankrupting adult video producers.
What's next, webcam customers being able to make their own AI 'dreamgirl' ( via advanced SecondLife / 'Simone'-esque software ) thus eliminating the need for human camgirls ???