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Camming Doesn't HaveTo Suck - Skype With CamGirl Clubs
Camgirls, not yet offering Skype shows? You really should. I can help. With CamGirl Clubs, the rate is 80% commissions to you. Details are here
Of course you could offer Skype shows yourself, earning upwards of 85% profit (depending on the rate in which your payment processor charges) but with CamGirl Clubs, you share in a team effort, gaining from the traffic collectively sent to the site. We also handle the payment processing for you complete with details available to you at any time. Also includes site listing, marketing (via established social networking platforms) and tutorials from a camgirl with 17 years experience under her garter-belt. http://www.wecamgirls.com/images/smilies/04_Wink.png Me, a real camgirl. As the owner of CamGirl Clubs, I don't own your content or your handle nor do I even have access to your Skype show archives. Only Skype has that. I'm yet to find a site that can make this claim. Your customers are all on your Skype list, and will not 'drop off' that list or disappear into thin air.
Use the url provided or feel free to contact me on Twitter (@amanda36c) or right here in a private message, if you wish.
I don't post here often. I am not here to get attacked. I'm here to put an offer on the table to those who are struggling. Any attack on this post or on me, will fall on deaf ears. I am not interested in drama or troll feeding. Just offering a solution to the problem that plagues us all. Camming doesn't have to suck.
Amanda36c
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I'm not sure I follow your question but if you're asking if one exists, the information can be found on under Refund Policy. My site for is for girls who want to be independent, so yes, there is always the risk of a charge back but in my experience, haven't had any yet. :) You get to see EVERYTHING related to your account, including any refunds or charge backs. We hide nothing from the girls.
Amanda
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amanda36c
I'm not sure I follow your question but if you're asking if one exists, the information can be found on
http://CamGirlClubs.com under Refund Policy. My site for is for girls who want to be independent, so yes, there is always the risk of a charge back but in my experience, haven't had any yet. :) You get to see EVERYTHING related to your account, including any refunds or charge backs. We hide nothing from the girls.
Amanda
if you could provide details here without requiring people to go to the posted site, you'd prob find more people interested. not everyone feels comfy clicking rando links when you can field q & a here. just a thought.
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What's the payout schedule like? What methods are available? (Check, Payoneer, direct deposit, etc)
TBH if it's all the same I'd rather take 75-80% at CMD and not have to worry about chargebacks but if the payout was faster then I might be willing to give it a try.
EDIT: Nevermind, found it. The payout minimum and the wait time is too long for me... for my most popular show length I'd only be getting $1.50 more per show at 80% vs 75%. If those policies were changed to be more competitive, maybe. It looks like it could become a decent back-up site but I wouldn't direct my own traffic there. Not trying to attack you or put down what you're doing, BTW--it's always great to see sites & businesses run by camgirls instead of the usual pimps.
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Yea I hate doing Skype shows, but am trying to break away from some sites, so I may decide to go back to a good site using Skype. I can't find much info. on their site.
Answering questions here would help me decide if I want to sign with them or not.
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as far as chargebacks, your cited refund policy delineates how voluntary refunds are handled. in the case of a chargeback (over which unfortunately no indy chica has much control when it comes to adult IPSPs), does the site eat the additional fee (I believe it's $32) charged by zombaio or is that deducted from the chica's account?
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MellyMay
if you could provide details here without requiring people to go to the posted site, you'd prob find more people interested. not everyone feels comfy clicking rando links when you can field q & a here. just a thought.
just gotta echo this. promotional threads like this generally aren't kosher here in cc but cam chicas get far wider latitude than others. that said, to post here it's important to engage in a dialogue that benefits the community, not to direct Q&A's elsewhere. promotional threads that are more unidirectional in nature are better suited to Industry Insight or Marketplace
all the best with your site
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I know from experience on indy sites that they don't need a lot of traffic for cam girls to be successful. For example CMD gets around 4,000 visitors per day. But currently your site according to my traffic sources only gets 8 people per day. Do you plan on doing any advertising? I send a lot of my caming customers from big sites to buy shows through CMD. I would be willing to use your site if the payout was more attractive and the chargebacks were not an issue. But if I'm not going to get any sales through your site alone it's not very attractive for me to join.
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Hello MellyMay,
Interesting response but I do believe I handled that just fine. She wasn't clear with her question, so I sent her to the page which explains everything pertaining to what I gather she wanted information on. Are you interested in my offer, by any chance?
I provide a platform for those who would like to offer Skype shows but don't have their own website. I am not trying to force anyone's hand here. If you are interested, then great. If not, that is fine, too. I am a camgirl myself, with 17 years experience in the industry. My objective is not to rip anyone off. I wish people would be more receptive to the idea rather than looking for negatives.
For those with a genuine interest in what I am offering, please read on.
Procrasturbator,
Payout Schedule:
Please remember that CamGirl Clubs is not in competition with the big sites. As such, our methods vary in many ways to theirs. Read on and then if you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
We are reliant entirely on Zombaio's payout schedule.
Our payment processor Zombaio, holds the funds for 21 days. RedPass users; please allow an extra 2 weeks (35 days, max) for the funds to arrive in your RedPass account.
CamGirl Clubs does not hold your money for any length of time. It is sent to you directly from Zombaio, no matter which payout option you select. See this page for details.
There are 4 payout methods:
•RedPass (Zombaio’s card) *Recommended*
•Check (snail mail from Zombaio, in Sweden)
•Wire (from Zombaio, Sweden)
•ACH or Direct Deposit (for U.S. citizens only)
Any performer who has to "worry about chargebacks", I would worry about. In my entire camming career (17 years), there is only one site that has ever taken chargebacks from me and with absolutely no way for me to dispute it or even see who it was doing the chargeback. That is just one advantage to being 'truly independent'; you deal with the payment processor directly and can fight a chargeback if you so desire. Alternatively, you have a direct line to your customer, so you can resolve it with him.
There is a base minimim of $1.00/min we impose, so no one undercuts the others, including any discounts given, and you can charge up to $5.00/min. If the performer wants to offer a special, she can stay with the customer longer than the purchase block indicates, but that is her prerogative.
You can direct your traffic to wherever you want to but the whole conept with CamGirl Clubs is it's a team effort. We work together to bring traffic. Out of every hundred dollars earned by any particular performer, CamGirl Clubs gets less than $5.00. That is less than 5%. So yes, of course we expect the girls to bring their own traffic. That is the whole idea. Eventually, we build it to the point where everyone is sharing traffic on the site but the difference here is, CamGirl Clubs is not stealing your customers because you have them right there in your Skype contact list and sub account member list. If they choose to see another girl, then they can but they can always come back to you. I'm glad you recognized the fact that it's a camgirl-run site. I think that is a very important and noteworthy fact. It speaks volumes to what we are trying to accomplish here.
Loveshooks,
Actually, we do have control. We can dispute the chargeback or go to the customer directly because he is our own and we have a way to contact him. In the case of a small chargeback that really isn't worth the time to argue over, we can choose to absorb the fee. This would be for the performer to decide. An advantage we have here is in knowing the customer's name so that we may blacklist him with the site (as opposed to the sites where they can just change their handles and/or create brand new accounts). You are correct; the fee is $32.00 and the performer is only responsible for her share of that, as is the site with theirs.
Zombaio has good anti-fraud measures put in place to prevent chargebacks.
If that isn't enough, we have the right to dispute any chargeback with them and we will do so on the sub account's behalf or with them. Additionally, CamGirl Clubs will thoroughly investigate any and all chargebacks. I haven't had any yet, personally.
I completely understand your point about keeping this more to a q&a than 'advertise and run'. I didn't really think I was doing that because there is so much to have to explain (as you can see) and a ton of questions to answer.
Smaddy,
You are correct. The number of visits are not important in our case, as they would be, for example, on any of the big sites. The girls bring their own traffic. It doesn't take very many shows for a girl to make money with these time blocks and the options available. We expect that in time, as the site grows, so will the traffic. Please keep in mind that we are new.
To answer your question concerning advertising, we will see how things go. The big sites, for the most part, don't advertise. The girls are the ones bringing traffic to them. If CamGirl Clubs can collect enough performers, and the site starts to see profits, we will consider evolving using what is within our means/budget. Unfortunately, I cannot make Zombaio pay out any faster. If I could, I would. Right now, it's a catch 22 trying to get girls to join because they all want traffic, a great percentage and a weekly payout. I think we can all agree that if we made good enough money, being paid monthly suddenly wouldn't be such an issue, nor would chargebacks (again, I'm still yet to see any from Zombaio, personally). What's left is traffic and starting out, no, we don't have heps of it but you drive your own, to yourself. All it takes is one guy on Twitter to say 'do you offer Skype?" or agree to a show offer, and you've made a sale of anywhere from $8.00 (your part) to $40.00 for a 10 minute show. Sure, it takes a month or so to arrive in your hands and yes, it's a bit of a downside but eventually, once you're earning weekly payouts, consequently, you will start to see them arrive more consistently.
Here's how CamGirl Clubs works;
Each girl is furnished with her own profile page on CamGirl Clubs, displaying information about her, her shows, along with pricing buttons.
We handle all the billing and payouts to the performers. Each performer is given what is called a 'sub account' with access to information pertinent to each transaction under that account (real name, address, e-mail account, username and password but not their credit card details).
We also offer tutorials on how to get started and live online help via Skype if our girls should have any questions or require assistance with getting set up. The advantages CamGirl Clubs offers over other similar sites whose claim is that they want to help camgirls become independent are as follows:
Our agreement does not include a clause claiming ownership of your handle or content. Your handle is yours, not ours. Your video is on the Skype servers, where we have no access whatsoever, therefore, are unable to steal it, nor would we care to. Feel free to compare CamGirl Clubs' agreement with others you have signed and see the differences for yourself.
We are not in control of communications with your customers. They are all on your contact list on Skype. If any dispute should arise, you are able to contact them there and resolve it between yourselves.
You are permitted (and encouraged) to promote your social networking links on our site, in marketing efforts to promote your shows.
This is truly being independent.
I appreciate the questions and please don't hesitate to ask more, if anything I've posted here isn't clear, but please, only if you have a genuine interest. It took me a long time to answer these. I hope I've done a good job. ;)
Happy Easter girls!
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amanda36c
Hello MellyMay,
Interesting response but I do believe I handled that just fine. She wasn't clear with her question, so I sent her to the page which explains everything pertaining to what I gather she wanted information on. Are you interested in my offer, by any chance?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. i had no opinion stated on how you "handled" that. nowhere in my comment was there any mention of that so if you reread it:
"if you could provide details here without requiring people to go to the posted site, you'd prob find more people interested. not everyone feels comfy clicking rando links when you can field q & a here. just a thought. "
not interested but thanks. my post was a simple suggestion to post details HERE. it was a helpful suggestion and you took it. Gold star for you.
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amanda36c
Hello MellyMay,
Smaddy,
You are correct. The number of visits are not important in our case, as they would be, for example, on any of the big sites. The girls bring their own traffic. It doesn't take very many shows for a girl to make money with these time blocks and the options available. We expect that in time, as the site grows, so will the traffic. Please keep in mind that we are new.
To answer your question concerning advertising, we will see how things go. The big sites, for the most part, don't advertise. The girls are the ones bringing traffic to them. If CamGirl Clubs can collect enough performers, and the site starts to see profits, we will consider evolving using what is within our means/budget. Unfortunately, I cannot make Zombaio pay out any faster. If I could, I would. Right now, it's a catch 22 trying to get girls to join because they all want traffic, a great percentage and a weekly payout. I think we can all agree that if we made good enough money, being paid monthly suddenly wouldn't be such an issue, nor would chargebacks (again, I'm still yet to see any from Zombaio, personally). What's left is traffic and starting out, no, we don't have heps of it but you drive your own, to yourself. All it takes is one guy on Twitter to say 'do you offer Skype?" or agree to a show offer, and you've made a sale of anywhere from $8.00 (your part) to $40.00 for a 10 minute show. Sure, it takes a month or so to arrive in your hands and yes, it's a bit of a downside but eventually, once you're earning weekly payouts, consequently, you will start to see them arrive more consistently.
SM I know for a fact does a heavy amount of advertising. They also have affiliates. Is that something that you may consider? Since girls are liable for chargebacks so that is not an issue on your part you could offer affiliates a percentage of the sales. I know from experience that many affiliates are capable of bringing in large amounts of traffic. It may be something to look into.
Twitter is a great (free) marketing tool. But it takes a lot more than just creating a page and expecting people to come visit.
Search engine optimization. Do you have any experience with this? If you don't want to spend money on advertising SEO is a great way to bring in organic free traffic from the major search engines. CMD puts a good amount of effort into SEO.
Content marketing is also a great way to bring in traffic. Girls could also have their own "blogs" on the site where they post articles related to caming and promote themselves. The keywords in those articles are really great for bringing in organic traffic via google and other major search engines.
I really like affiliate marketing because a webmaster you don't pay upfront, you only pay for sales. Content marketing and SEO takes time but it can be well worth it!
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I'm going to read though this thread more in the morning but doesn't Wordpress.com not allow adult sites? I know you can use wordpress on your own server but using their site to host an adult site is aginst their terms last time I checked.
forgive me if they have updated their policies or i'm mistaken.
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The actual site where customers go is a .com, not .wordpress.com
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Why would someone bring a customer to a site, for them to take %20+??
That sounds silly, I get it, Guys want to go to a place where they can trust the
payment method, vise versa, But if they are willing to switch for you, they are prob willing
to buy you amazon gift cards or pay thru a direct link.
Ive never understood this.
I guess its because i accept bank payments directly too me.
But why go somewhere when they arnt offering you new clients and sales?
I obviously already have the ones i have, and if they want to pay elsewhere
so ill get more, pay me and give me the %100.
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another bizarre question or two if I may ?
Is CamGirlClubs a US business entity ? Are your pages hosted on US based servers ?
The reason I ask is that, for US camgirls residing outside of the USA, the above answers potentially make a huge difference in regard to how this income is treated by the US IRS ... even if actual payments are routed through Sweden.
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Like others mentioned the hold time isn't a good look. No other indy sites use zombaio to pay and if so, they have enough back up funds to pay girls what they are owed weekly and collect the zombaio funds when they are released. Also, no traffic? Not a good look. I appreciate you making a site for other models to use skype with but at these early stages (no traffic, no attractive pay schedule) it's a no for me. Perhaps if the 21 wait for funds and traffic wasn't an issue I'd be all for it.
Also, the sales pitch is a little off. I don't know of any other indy cam platforms that create a skype username and control a girl's password. Also, bigger sites do indeed buy traffic. 80% of performers don't even know how to bring traffic to bigger sites, they just ride the traffic there which is more than enough. Anyway, I just don't see the value in bringing customers to a site to pay 80-85% when more established sites also offer up to 80%, have traffic, and they don't have a 21 day wait for funding. If Zombaio decided to cancel your account you'd be responsible paying girls who are owed and it doesn't seem like you have the back up funding for that. That's how people end up getting sued unfortunately. OP, I get your hustle but I don't think it's going to attract a lot of indy girls until traffic and a faster payment processor gets up to par.
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Anyone interested can contact me directly if they wish to know more. I have answered every question, in my last response. You all have dot coms and yet know nothing about how Zombaio works. I will leave you to figure this out on your own. Again, I am not out to screw camgirls over.
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amanda36c
Anyone interested can contact me directly if they wish to know more. I have answered every question, in my last response. You all have dot coms and yet know nothing about how Zombaio works. I will leave you to figure this out on your own. Again, I am not out to screw camgirls over.
No one said you were here to screw us over, OP but I don't think you get it. Here on this forum we look out for ourselves and one another and there a lot of holes in your "service" and we'd be crazy not to question and comment. If you're offering a service, come correct or don't come at all. We're not into hit and run services. Those are people like you who come on here claiming they've been in the industry for years, post their service, and then are nowhere to be seen. Camming Connection is for discussing (and disecting). If you don't like the questions as loveshooks mentioned you could've posted in mainstream or the marketplace.
I don't think it's fair that you assume (because that's what you are doing) that we "know nothing about how Zombaio works". I'll give you a hint. You are not the first person nor will you be the last to use Zombaio and I'm pretty sure most of us here have used Zombaio in the past. Plenty of us having been in this industry just as long as you have so you aren't talking to a bunch of newbies who don't know a thing about payment processors. We definitely don't like a person advertising and then turning around and telling us we don't know how something works.
I can tell you that for someone who claims they've been in the industry for years you don't know how "it" works. Every platform site should have their ducks in a row before offering their services to independents as this is business 101. You are no longer working for yourself, you are running a business as of now. Firstly, you need to have operating expenses, secondly, traffic. Operating expenses/retained earnings (savings) basically means that you need to not only cover your hosting and domain expenses, it means you need to make enough money to keep in business as well as being able to cover payroll when places like Zombaio takes 21 days to pay girls. I don't think you understand that you aren't really offering anything special except your Zombaio account which any of us can get on our own, or go with an established site that uses Zombaio. Those sites understand that models like to be paid weekly, or even daily and they have payroll coverage so things run smoothly and have no delays.
This is what YOU "don't get". Why would we use your service when there's nothing special about it? Think about that for a minute, let it sink in, and re-evaluate what you're offering that no one else isn't and why us, your target market should use YOUR services. It's really not about Zombaio. It's about what YOU can offer US and if you had retained earnings/operating expenses covered 21 days pay wouldn't be an issue because you'd have money to cover it. Girls want to be paid fast and can get Zombaio on our own. With no traffic and 21 days wait for pay I don't see your wordpress site going very far. Good luck!
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I cant stay quiet.
Please remember and if you do not know this,
Amanda is the exact same model that went on a social rant for months and months. SOCIAL NETWORKS? How professional do we get or is it unprofessional?
Our customers read this. Models read this. Web cam companies read this.
Amanda will block you if you disagree with her, happened to me and a few others when questioned about her "social networking skills" when business issues should be handled quietly.
Amanda posted peoples private information.
Amanda bashed for months non stop until Streamate realized she was very unhappy with the site, after damage had been done, she was released.
Amanda posted all this on her blogs.
Should I post this? I do question this. This forum is to help models.
Trust me when I say , I am helping you.
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@BuffyFlame,
- You receive bank payments directly to your bank account? So you give out your banking information to anyone who claims to want a show? Amazon Gift cards or "pay thru direct link", as you stated, has no safe guard against minors purchasing a show with you where Zombaio and the 3d secure are at least a deterrent, though no system is 100% foolproof.
@Melonie,
CamGirl Clubs is a Canadian business with servers in the US. It is considered a domestic International by the US IRS. The girls that sign up to CamGirlClubs are considered a sub account of ours and are a business themselves. Each performer is responsible for their own tax filings.
As stated in our Agreement, Zombaio collects the money from customers and issues to the sub account holders respectfully. All sub accounts are under CamGirlClubs' master business merchant account.
If you have your own website then just sign up to them yourselves. You don't need CamGirlClubs when you can get your own payment processor. Do your research.
@Kortneykay,
Where did I ever say that we "create a Skype username and control a girl's password?" Can you provide the link where I stated this? This is news to me.
What big site offers 80%, where you get to see all your actual traffic stats, true client information (not just their chosen handles) and their real location and access to a real block button that works (it's on Skype.)?
In the (unlikely) event that Zombaio chose to cancel/suspend/close my Master account, the performers' sub accounts, would subsequently be closed as well but if they have money owed to them, it is Zombaio's responsibility and they would pay out as they normally would. The sub account is not liable for the master account's activities or actions.
Again if you are not interested, fine but please stop making uninformed statements to confuse others that might want to fully benefit from their own customers and don't have or want their own websites. Thank you!
@Temptingmodel,
Slander again? The same people, the same attacks. Shocker! Aren't you a recruiter for Streamate? Nice job. I guess lies are all you have.
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amanda36c
Where did I ever say that we "create a Skype username and control a girl's password?" Can you provide the link where I stated this? This is news to me.
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Originally Posted by
amanda36c
As the owner of CamGirl Clubs, I don't own your content or your handle nor do I even have access to your Skype show archives. Only Skype has that. I'm yet to find a site that can make this claim. Your customers are all on your Skype list, and will not 'drop off' that list or disappear into thin air.
Please re-read what I said. I did not claim that you personally create them. You basically said that other sites control a girl's username, archive and password on skype and that you're the only service that doesn't. The only way customers would drop off or disappear is if another site had that control and knew the model's username/password. I was explaining that I don't personally know of any other platforms that have this control.
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amanda36c
What big site offers 80%, where you get to see all your actual traffic stats, true client information (not just their chosen handles) and their real location and access to a real block button that works (it's on Skype.)?
Cammodeldirectory offers up to 80% and they frankly are "bigger" than you. Also, NF pays up to 80% as well I believe and several others as well. Traffic stats and client info isn't that necessary unless there is a chargeback involved. However, if a model wanted to she could just use Zombaio herself or download google analytics. Again, you're not offering anything special besides having a Zombaio account which is extremely attainable.
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amanda36c
In the (unlikely) event that Zombaio chose to cancel/suspend/close my Master account, the performers' sub accounts, would subsequently be closed as well but if they have money owed to them, it is Zombaio's responsibility and they would pay out as they normally would. The sub account is not liable for the master account's activities or actions.
They aren't paying all of their account holders on time and they can close any account they wish. Also, it's your name/site that will be blamed and not Zombaio because you chose to lend out your 3rd party processor without being financially prepared.
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amanda36c
Again if you are not interested, fine but please stop making uninformed statements to confuse others that might want to fully benefit from their own customers and don't have or want their own websites. Thank you!
I'm not making any uninformed statements as I think it's you who is clearly uninformed, I'm just trying to help you but it seems you know everything. Zombaio has had some erratic payments but if you did your research you'd know that. Some people have been getting payments 2 weeks late and more. Not everyone, but some. If late payments happen to you, it's different but if you have girls under you waiting it's a lot more stressful. Do you really think model's who use your service are going to accept your excuses when they don't get paid on time? They are going to run your name through the mud instead because you should've had your ducks in a row. These are true statements and I will never stop informing my fellow cammodels of the truth. If I were in your shoes I'd make sure that any girls working on my site using my 3rd party processor would get paid on time. I'd make sure that if they worked, only one week in arrears would be as long as they needed to wait since I'm getting a cut from the customers they bring in and not 21 days.
If someone is letting you "borrow" their 3rd part processor but can only point the finger at the processor when your payments come in late please go with someone else. The OP here isn't offering any new solutions and seems as she doesn't want to take suggestions. Here is a thread full of Zombaio late payments from angry and exhausted adult businesses. I'm not saying they are horrible, I'm just saying it's something you should consider first. http://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=4910798
It's better to bring your traffic to an established site who can afford to pay you if their processor pays late or acts up and is also working hard to drive traffic to you as well and is just not out for a percentage. We don't need anymore virtual pimps who aren't willing to do anything for you except lend out their payment processor.
ETA: Ladies, do your homework first. On March 21st Amanda posted this on GFY admitting that Zombaio paid her late "every single time" found here: http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1136...hlight=zombaio Does this sound like someone who has her ducks in a row?
http://i60.tinypic.com/123nrsz.png
OP, itt's obvious you've had issues with being paid with Zombaio and didn't even come back to the GFY forum to update your status. Why should girls use something you've had trouble with before with every single payment? The girls under you will have bills too and they don't want any excuses as to why you can't pay them. Please come correct.
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Originally Posted by
temptingmodel
I cant stay quiet.
Please remember and if you do not know this,
Amanda is the exact same model that went on a social rant for months and months. SOCIAL NETWORKS? How professional do we get or is it unprofessional?
Our customers read this. Models read this. Web cam companies read this.
Amanda will block you if you disagree with her, happened to me and a few others when questioned about her "social networking skills" when business issues should be handled quietly.
Amanda posted peoples private information.
Amanda bashed for months non stop until Streamate realized she was very unhappy with the site, after damage had been done, she was released.
Amanda posted all this on her blogs.
Should I post this? I do question this. This forum is to help models.
Trust me when I say , I am helping you.
Considering she was promoting a social twitter networking tweet option on GFY I'm going to go with you aren't telling fibs, lol.
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Wow, just.... wow. Yes, Zombaio was late. I posted that to a public forum. I was upset. They fixed it. WHY does this concern you so very much?
I'm just offering *real* camgirls a way to break free from the big sites and finally become independent. Some people seem to have a very big problem with that.
I back up what I say in my blog because I know how absolutely insane I would look to be making all those claims without proof. Go ahead, have a coffee and a read. Inform yourself. Click the links. See for yourself.
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Please re-read what I said. I did not claim that you personally create them. You basically said that other sites control a girl's username, archive and password on skype and that you're the only service that doesn't. The only way customers would drop off or disappear is if another site had that control and knew the model's username/password.
Um, no I did not.
I refuse to address childish behavior, lies and words downright put in my mouth that I never used. From hereon, I am only addressing questions related to a serious interest in joining CamGirl Clubs.
Thanks to those of you have contacted me privately. That is indeed the best way to go, unfortunately.
Sincerely, .... Amanda36c
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I'm just offering *real* camgirls a way to break free from the big sites and finally become independent. Some people seem to have a very big problem with that.
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I refuse to address childish behavior, lies and words downright put in my mouth that I never used. From hereon, I am only addressing questions related to a serious interest in joining CamGirl Clubs.
Actually, I don't think that is what people are having a very big problem with.
There are many representatives from many different camsites and companies on Stripperweb. Poor Vanessa, Kim and Nissim are forced to put up with 'childish behavior' on regular basis on this forum, to name only a few.
All of the above representatives have always handled all 'stupid' questions and girls misinformed assumptions with nothing but style, grace and always.....always with professionalism.
These things are very important when it comes to business.
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@Temptingmodel,
Slander again? The same people, the same attacks. Shocker! Aren't you a recruiter for Streamate? Nice job. I guess lies are all you have.
No, no and no its all the truth.
Do you want to talk about talking about sw posters on your timeline, about "high earnings"? accused them of lying?
Recruiter? yes but get your facts straight.
I recruit new members to streamate. I recruit them for my benefit and many others.
I do not recruit models. I could if I wanted but I prefer to recruit new money to the site.
If model is dead set on working under me that is fine, I prefer to bring in money. Yes models bring in money but I prefer to bring spenders.
Slander? that is what you did to streamate, white labels, studios and every model in very unprofessional manner. You even brought partychat into a blog post and he/she kindly asked you to keep them out of your drama.
Your quick to blame everyone but Amanda for Amandas problems.
I'm warning everyone, no ones private information is safe with you. You showed it, you proved it and you cant deny it
Models need to know they are risking their personal information and being slandered on social media.
cam companies rid of you for reasons or was it a conspiracy , another "lets set Amanda up to fail" ?
Ifriends? what about them? was it their fault as well when they booted you?
posted this on your blog as well.
Everything starts real nice UNTIL Amanda struggles and then shit will hit the fan.
Zombaio seems to be next, posting again about your issues with payments. I will wait for the future blame game posts about them.
In case you did not know this, its best TO NOT slander a company unless you plan on never doing business with them. Who wants to trade business with someone who is not happy?
Would you keep a model that slandered your company? Would you? Really?
Would you work for someone that posts negative? Would you? Think about it.
Would you trust someone with your personal information is known to BLOG it? Would you? hmm ... think hard
Personally I don't know you, I know OF YOU.
I ONLY know of you because of the drama that you do stir up. That is not a good thing.