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I will pass....your annoying and everything that tempting model has shared is the truth. I would never work for you, under you or next to you. I dealt with you back at ifriends while you were running a promotion years ago. I asked a simple question and you accused me of being someone I wasn't. Nothing has changed where you are concerned. I won't stay quiet either. Your mouth has made you many enemies, so as soon as people see you post something like this..they have the taste of puke in their mouth. What a Big surprise (rolls eyes) to see you already posting on Twitter about this topic and this forum. Go ahead and call everyone here industry pimps, recruiters, defender of porn pigs...and all the other shit that flies from your mouth. It's all old..and everyone is sick to death of it.
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LittleLexy
What a Big surprise (rolls eyes) to see you already posting on Twitter about this topic and this forum. Go ahead and call everyone here industry pimps, recruiters, defender of porn pigs...and all the other shit that flies from your mouth. It's all old..and everyone is sick to death of it.
This is part what I am talking about
Amanda
NEVER DOES A PROFESSIONAL WOMAN OPEN HER BUSINESS/BUSINESS OF OTHERS IN FRONT OF CLIENTS/POTENTIAL CLIENTS OR BUSINESSES.
it is a secret every business practices
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amanda36c
As the owner of CamGirl Clubs, I don't own your content or your handle nor do I even have access to your Skype show archives. Only Skype has that. I'm yet to find a site that can make this claim. Your customers are all on your Skype list, and will not 'drop off' that list or disappear into thin air.
I must be stupid as fuck if I took this quote out of context not meaning that she's the only service that doesn't have ownership to model's skype username or password. How else is a company going to have access to skype archives? Owning a handle means a company can get into your account but I must be dumb lol. I still can name every single skype cam service platform that doesn't have access or own rights to my content or skype info.
Either way, I'm glad I did my homework. As I said before, using a platform that can guarantee you your hard earned money and can send traffic to you is much better. OP didn't get paid on time several times and then has the nerve to come on here recruiting with the same 3rd party biller when she can't guarantee ANY girls who join her site will get paid on time. That's a big no no. That wouldn't be an issue if she had her own funds to cover it but she doesn't. Blind leading the blind.
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^^^in all fairness there is one indy site that controls customer contact list, interactions and claims exclusive right to content and cam name (that shady plugin site) but beyond that I'm with ya, every indy site operates pretty much the same way as the site being promoted here
as far as the zombaio issue, I've found payments have been arriving promptly but some peeps def are having issues. that said, I think with any site operating without a float to make payouts to chicas in the event that payouts are delayed by the processor can be problematic.
also I wanted to make a comment in regard to chargebacks: cb's are very low when using adult processing but fighting a cb when a payment is booked through an IPSP is pretty unrealistic. the cb/refund is given before the chica is even notified and it's the decision of the IPSP, NOT the merchant as to whether these payments are reversed. sure, one could always sue a client I guess, but that's pretty out there. like I said I haven't found cb's to be much of an issue during my years in indy but I did want to clairfy how cb's actually work. when conducting payment processing through an IPSP the IPSP makes the decisions on how cb's are handled, not us. that's sort of a peripheral point but since misinformation was posted earlier I did want to clarify for the benefit of chicas who may be new to indy and unsure of how things work.
in general I want to post a reminder to everyone that this needs to stay civil. since cc is not for unidirectional promotion of course any chica is permitted and encouraged to ask questions and provide feedback, but raising ancient history about what may have occurred on a site eons ago isn't productive. Business conduct and business plan are relevant, personal issues that occured before fire was invented are not. Nor is swearing or flaming, and points will be handed out if things spiral downhill. we're all adults here: discussion need not devolve into a flame war.
wishing everyone a wicked $$$$ day
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I understand...sorry about that. Your right
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I'm not sure what the point is in telling all of our business to a bunch of random guys on Twitter. As many times as I've had arguments on here with models, I never went on Twitter badmouthing SW or linking random guys to our threads. Somewhere there's a guy reading this and laughing his ass off at the drama...possibly even getting a hard-on from this "chick fight." :P And it's just sending more lurkers over here to be all in our business. People used to wonder why ACF would get a new troll thread every damn week. Um...probably because anybody could join, and people are constantly advertising ACF on Twitter and their MFC profiles.
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I know Im kind of new here... Sorry to add to any derailment, but this just bothered me...
You just posted a direct link on twitter to right-in-the-gosh-darn-middle of Camming Connection to almost 5000 random guys.
Dude... Come on... :-\
I know its possible for guys to find this forum if they look for it... But Id say let's not put it right there in their face.
#disrespectfultoyourfellowcamgirls
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SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
I know Im kind of new here... Sorry to add to any derailment, but this just bothered me...
You just posted a direct link on twitter to right-in-the-gosh-darn-middle of Camming Connection to almost 5000 random guys.
Dude... Come on... :-\
I know its possible for guys to find this forum if they look for it... But Id say let's not put it right there in their face.
#disrespectfultoyourfellowcamgirls
i like you.
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I was almost considering signing up had even been DMing Amanda on Twitter, good thing I'm a huge procrastinator and put it off. Amanda why would you post a link to Stripperweb on your Twitter? I know SW isn't a secret forum but the less guys/trolls we get here the better, especially since a lot of us (myself included) use our stage name as our screen name here. Guess that's my stupidity but the less men knowing about SW the better and I feel like you've broken a cardinal camgirl rule by doing that, I thought it was common camgirl knowledge - much like Fight Club, that the first rule of Stripperweb is that on social media and public forums we don't talk about Stripper web!
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I also wanted to point out that I think you sell yourself short with your Skype shows. I charge $3 a minute and I don't start discounts until after 1 hour long sessions. Your charging $12 for 10 minutes. You are worth more than that bb. Even if we are 'haters' I still think so.
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Maybe for validation that she is right? There is is 1 type of person in the world that I truly cannot stand. It's a person that cannot handle constructive criticism and blows up the moment you say something that isn't in line with what they are thinking. You can't really tell on the online world as clearly... but usually those people are the ones getting to arguments and then posting screenshots of said arguments on forums and other sites to get validation that they were right.
I guess I just don't see why you needed to do that. I was really rooting for your business. I think it's great that you are thinking about starting it and I just wanted to give you whatever help and pointers that I could. I have a major is business administration with a minor in marketing. You could say something like "Well she must not be very good at what she has a degree in because she's caming" Simply put, I go where the money is at. I'm an entrepreneur at heart and can earn the start up costs for my dream business much faster than working a vanilla job, even with my degree. Anyway, but I've learned a lot since I graduated. I've started different websites and some were successful but a lot were not. It helps if you don't have to go through that and you have someone who could help make the ride a little bit easier. One thing that I learned is that I feel is truly valuable is: YOUR BUSINESS WILL NEVER GO AS SMOOTHLY AS YOU WANT IT TOO. I had all these ideas and every single one of them changed. My most successful website started one way and by the end it was completely different. I made changes to serve my customers needs and if I had kept it the way it was when I started out I wouldn't have made any money.
A few of the posts said something along the lines of "Why would we go to your site if you cannot offer me anything?" Your business needs to serve the camgirls and customers first. Honestly, I worked for free in my spare time for months before I saw any return. I was earning a few weeks in but every single penny I took and I reinvested. With websites, customers don't really just "find" your website unless you are doing a lot of SEO (search engine optimization) and the adult industry is very competitive with that part. That's really my concern because when I asked about advertising you didn't really have a plan. I wish you luck but unfortunately at this time I don't think I want to be a part of what you are doing.
I also apologize for any typos.
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TattooedBBW
I was almost considering signing up had even been DMing Amanda on Twitter, good thing I'm a huge procrastinator and put it off. Amanda why would you post a link to Stripperweb on your Twitter? I know SW isn't a secret forum but the less guys/trolls we get here the better, especially since a lot of us (myself included) use our stage name as our screen name here. Guess that's my stupidity but the less men knowing about SW the better and I feel like you've broken a cardinal camgirl rule by doing that, I thought it was common camgirl knowledge - much like Fight Club, that the first rule of Stripperweb is that on social media and public forums we don't talk about Stripper web!
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The only good thing that comes out of posting a link to Stripperweb on Twitter is the 40 seconds peepers! Do you know how fast that add$$$$$$ up?! My body is ready.
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i can only expect that we will have 6000 more trolls making one post here and telling us we're whores and never returning. weeeeeeeeeee!
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Amanda36c, I do not understand why you would post things off this forum on your twitter page. Thank you for bring more trolls and sexist pigs on to this site. Not only that....but many of the ladies were trying to help you out at first. However, you start acting all bratty and catty to the ladies on here. But the level of disrespect towards your fellow sex workers is shameful. Some of us just would like a nice place to discuss things about this industry with people who understand it without someone posting arguments off the forum on twitter. I hope if you comeback then you can be more mature with your responses :) Blowing off the handle because of a little questioning is not the way to solve anything :)
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Interesting enough, she also bad-mouthed this porn star who was doing camming as well on her blog. Her blog come across as quite disrespectful to other cam models and sex workers :(
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LittleLexy
I will pass....your annoying and everything that tempting model has shared is the truth. I would never work for you, under you or next to you. I dealt with you back at ifriends while you were running a promotion years ago. I asked a simple question and you accused me of being someone I wasn't. Nothing has changed where you are concerned. I won't stay quiet either. Your mouth has made you many enemies, so as soon as people see you post something like this..they have the taste of puke in their mouth. What a Big surprise (rolls eyes) to see you already posting on Twitter about this topic and this forum. Go ahead and call everyone here industry pimps, recruiters, defender of porn pigs...and all the other shit that flies from your mouth. It's all old..and everyone is sick to death of it.
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i can only expect that we will have 6000 more trolls making one post here and telling us we're whores and never returning. weeeeeeeeeee!
My favs are the guys who come on here and give us 'advice' about how to make more money.
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With all the hatred, conspiracy theories, paranoia and overall bad attitude, I never would sign up for anything to do with the OP. Her behaviour isn't the type I would trust, especially with my business and money.
Also, there is a woman that she was having a feud with for quite awhile and somehow she found out the models real name and started saying it in her chat room.
That shows a true lack of character.
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It's falling on deaf ears.
It's sad, but the best we can do is just stay away.
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SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
You just posted a direct link on twitter to right-in-the-gosh-darn-middle of Camming Connection to almost 5000 random guys.
Dude... Come on... :-\
I know its possible for guys to find this forum if they look for it... But Id say let's not put it right there in their face.
#disrespectfultoyourfellowcamgirls
true say Spacey. wow, I just checked out the twitter thing, I'm really disappointed that our community would be used as fodder in a war against...I'm not quite sure what exactly. Apparently we're all industry pimps here because we aren't just a passive audience to people selling a service? That these insults are baseless (and frankly comical considering how virulently anti-studio we are as a collective) doesn't change the fact that our space has been dragged into an apparently ongoing drama-fest that really has nothing to do with us. It's doubly ironic considering that in terms of ethos every single contributor to this thread including the OP is on the same side. We all want cam chicas to earn as much as possible and to keep as much of our earnings as possible. We all want cam chicas to work as independently as possible, whether on skype or on the cam sites.
sometimes the sw propensity towards what I'll politely term 'spirited debate' here annoys the fuck out of me, but when it comes to the cc collective approach to sites/services/individuals who wish to market to us, that spirit is one of my favorite things about this place. I infrequently visit a couple of other forums where every new site/service is met with unquestioning "ooo, it's shiny and new, sign me up" excitement, and that naivete isn't smart in an industry wherein joining a site/service means trusting other people, strangers really, with our personal information, our online reputations, our money. I love that y'all critique, examine, debate and demand engagement rather than sit passively as an audience to sales pitches and I thank every one of you who helps make sw a safer place for cam chicas through this approach.
sorry y'all, I probably should have moved this thread down to Marketplace where it could die an ignoble death from lack of page views/responses the day it was created. In leaving it here I think I allowed our community to be used and I do apologize for that.
anyways, locked. wishing everyone a wicked $$$$$ day