Check the bottom of the post, this has been worked out civilly and professionally!
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Check the bottom of the post, this has been worked out civilly and professionally!
Crushing, chewing and swallowing a live fish for sexual jollies is acceptable "because sushi"!?!?! Wow. WOW.
People also eat raw and live insects, either by accident (who hasn't swallowed a fly while jogging/hiking/whatever?) or because they're part of a culture's diet, or a delicacy. So their "people eat raw fish" argument is bullshit unless they're going to allow the crushing and chomping of bugs too.
I'm really sorry they banned you. It's sickening. I assumed they just turned a blind eye to fish clips, I didn't think they would actively defend it then punish you for complaining. Dick move, C4S. I wish you all the luck in getting your account back and fighting them on this.
Girl, they really did a dick move! You was just trying to protect animals against abuse yet you get punished :( What a damn Shame! Please fight this and try to get your account back.
Also C4S fail to understand the English fucking language. "Such as, but not limited to:" means "including these things, but also other things:". Someone needs to re-read their own ToS.
That sucks! My guess is she is making them alot of $$$$ by breaking the law so they're turning a blind eye to it. It's really the same way taboo gets played. It totally disgusts me that people will "age play" or blatantly do taboo and it's somehow ok.
Best of luck getting them to turn that around for you. If you have to lawyer up I won't mind working for you if you end up owning the site.
RIGHT!?
When she said that that's when I knew this woman would just keep defending this crap. She went out of her way to explain how she interpreted the sentence further...maybe English isn't her second language...I dunno. I'm honestly just baffled.
I've received a reply to my ticket, "Store ID: 68735 was added to the Country Validation Bypass List" and to try logging in again. Yet I am still suspended. It's after 8am EST so I'm going to give them a call right now.
I'll keep you guys updated if they're continuing to pull these kind of shenanigans. Trust me ladies, I'm getting my account back and I'm prepared to lawyer up. Suspending me for whistleblowing has to be against some kind of rules, independent contractor or not.
This is probably true and the only reason why they would allow this.
Are they not aware of how much trouble they could get in for this? There are laws on killing fish, game, livestock, and pets humanely.
Not only would the girl end up in trouble with the law but the site would be held accountable also for hosting this trash.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5166630.html
So...it's okay for 'ole Fish Girl there to go and swallow animals that you and I would consider pets...for the sole purpose of profit, but YOU get shut down just for pointing out how wrong/against the rules it is??? WTF? Wow, I'm really sorry...
Crustaceans and fish are unfortunately not protected by law. In the US the Animal Welfare Act (AWA) does not cover any cold blooded creature. Most sites do not allow it however and write that rule into their t&c's. It's not legally enforceable though :(
I just got off the phone with support and I'm told that the owner of C4S (Neil) has personally suspended my store and the case is put in "high priority".
I can't even...
Like what case? Still no one has told me what I've done wrong other than tell them about another store WHICH IS STILL OPEN has broken their own ToS! I'm absolutely baffled by how petty and unprofessional they are!
I can't understand why they closed YOU down though! All I can think is they wrongly assume you're the one breaking the rules? More phonecalls, more emails! Good luck x
OMG that's awful!!! On all counts.
I knew that C4S condoned swallowing live fish as it's shown on US TV....but doing those other things to fish would appear to be crushing, and that is against the rules...(never mind what I think of people prepared to do this!).
I guess the old adage "Snitches get Stitches" applies to c4s also. thanks for the 'heads up'.
I know of a few cam sites that will suspend Your acct., for reporting something another model is doing that is against the rules.
She must be making the site lots of money for them to look the other way.
Shameful!
Keep us posted if You hire a lawyer, and what will be done.
Thanks, Glam
I think the lesson here is to make reports anonymously - you might consider editing your post - the sites read this forum and calling them out here might hurt your chances of getting your store reopened ---is that right or just = hell no = but if you really want your store back I would think about how public you make this issue - there are other ways to handle your complaint with out tagging your name to it - KWIM --- I'm sorry this happened to you and I know you have a big heart or you would not have stepped up to protect the innocent animals - hugs and hope you get it resolved
This is shameful they shut you down for a reporting a violation if there ToS. I would love to hear what Neil has to say for himself. this a site where you cant use the word hypnosis, but violating other TOS is okay. What bullshit.
Also it sounds like the rep has no understanding of the English language. I'm sorry you are having to deal with this.
Wasn't there just a crack down on this sort of thing and people were arrested?
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Do you have a twitter? I'm in awe of the power of social media. If enough of us posted on clips4sale they may reopen your account. If you wanted to share your camming twitter profile I would post something like "Hey C4S why did you close @yourtwitter account for simply reporting abuse?" with a screenshot of your chat.
What the actual fuck! That's all I got!
BIG UPDATE!
I just got off the phone with Neil and we had an excellent conversation about the finer details of this whole thing. There were some crossed lines, misunderstandings, and some things just not being made clear enough which led to this getting out of control. Someone took a personal comment I wrote about why this fish thing bothers me so much and turned it around as propaganda against C4S. Which I didn't know about and am TOTALLY not okay with.
We talked for like an hour or so on the phone in a professional civil manner and ironed out what the root of the issue really is about. He's going to investigate the store in question, we mutually apologized to each other about how things were handled, and I got my store back!
The people I talked to in support didn't work out as well with this but my experience talking with Neil was excellent and positive. We just discussed, listened, apologized, and came to an agreement.
All in all, I'm happy again!
And yes Nikki, I have learned my lesson about how to handle this sort of thing lol
Either way it was a positive experience talking to him and I'm glad that we worked things out!
That's so awesome Marley! I'm glad your store is back, and I'm glad Neil was willing to listen. Yay.
So chuffed you got this sorted, your store back, AND you got them to look into this sicko's store :)
I understand to a point why they aren't going after that chick... Vore is a HUGE category and those videos sell super well. there are hundreds of videos of girls doing the same thing and because they didn't jump on it and sick to their TOS when they started, they probably don't want to go through the trouble of shutting down all of those accounts. Some are top sellers and as sick as it is, when you make big money for someone, they're more likely to overlook minor infringements. Also, in some cases, it's hard to tell if something is alive (ie raw oysters, clams, ect). That being said, it's ridiculous that they didn't ban her and banned you instead for doing the RIGHT thing. also the vomit thing is something they seriously need to monitor closer. it's rampant. Call support and talk to them. They've been uber nice to me when I've had problems or questions.
Glad you got it worked out :)
[QUOTE=MarleyCat;2640930]BIG UPDATE!
Someone took a personal comment I wrote about why this fish thing bothers me so much and turned it around as propaganda against C4S.
WTF? Sounds like a good excuse to say "we took things out of context and we're sorry".
But either way I'm glad you got things straightened out. It seems to be a rampant theme to the adult industry to put up TOS and then fine someone to say "we warned them not to do it, but we can't monitor everyone" and then to let the offenders keep making them $$$$$$$$.
Ugh this makes me so angry. I'm so so glad you got your account back. Shit, as much as I don't like PETA maybe dropping them a line about what's going on with fish bitch would light a fire under their ass.