newbie not making any $$..help!
ive cammed about 4 times now and im not making anything! guys come in and leave. even the rare occasion i get a private guys leave, i feel so confused and lost most of the time all i get is beggars and scammers. im pretty sad since i thought camming would be quick money for me:'(
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Well vixen. There are more things to get them checked so the girls can help you. What sites do you work on? What cam do you have? Girls section ? :)
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Here are some things to consider:
What does your streaming quality look like?
How’s your lighting?
Do you stream in HD?
Do you have audio enabled or do you stick to typing?
Are you giving anything/too much away without payment?
The above things don’t always make or break how much you’re able to make in a day. Even if your lighting isn’t the best and you type everything out, you should be able to earn quite a bit! It eventually all comes down to the hustle.
Since you’ve only cammed for a couple times, it sounds like you’ve just had a bit of a rocky start or just a bad week. It happens to the best of us. Cam sites are filled to the brim with beggars and scammers, and when one shows up, the best thing to do is kick or block them. That should cut down on the nonsense in your room!
Also, what site do you work on? You might be able to pick up some pointers in the SM/MFC/CB threads. I’m not the most veteran camgirl, but if you ever need anyone to check out your stream, just let me know.
Good luck! :)
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Hi, vixenluv. Based on the "Even the rare occasion I get a private, guys leave" part of your post, I get the feeling you're talking about MyFreeCams? Have you read the following threads?
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...-For-Cam-Girls
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...reeCams-Thread
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...kets-Challenge
See, my thing about MFC is that sometimes if you accept private shows from any 'ole body who buzzes you for private, it's a waste because some of those guys will have like only 90 tokens (which isn't even enough for 2 mins. of private) and will most likely bail the moment you start fucking your pussy. I'm pretty weary about accepting privates from random guys on MFC who've never tipped me, aren't on my friends list, and who have their token amount hidden. If you're going to accept privates with random guys who don't usually tip, at least maybe ask them to unhide their tokens...so you can see for yourself that they have enough. If they don't even have enough tokens for at least 5 mins. of private, I wouldn't even bother accepting it, but that's just me. Not to mention the fact that when a model leaves to go private, most of the other chatters clear out the room and move on to a different model. So you really do want each private you accept to be worth your time.
And no, camming isn't quick, easy money like many ladies believe it to be. Especially lately...it seems to have been a bit rough for many of us. You've just started camming, so I'm sure that you'd really benefit from reading more of the threads on this forum. Check out those threads I linked, and remember...DO NOT ACCEPT PAYPAL FOR SKYPE SHOWS (figured I'd mention that since guys are notorious for requesting that) since PayPal forbids adult transactions and will penalize you for it. If the site you're referring to happens to be MFC, try to be consistent about your camming times on there. Regulars are very important on a site like MFC (and that's not an easy site to start out on, by the way), and it may help to have a Twitter account you use to tweet whenever you're online. Good luck!
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A lot of cam success comes from engaging the crowd. Do you talk to the guys who enter your room? Do you address them?
If you look like you're in it to just make money, chances are they can read that from your face. Just smile, relax, and worry more about having a good time.
After that, the money comes naturally. Good luck! We all have bad days...
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No such thing as easy fast money.
ARe you entertaining?
Is your equipment, lighting, web cam, internet speed up to industry standards?
I get long privates on MFC. So guys do go private on that site. Even if they have 90 tokens, they love my show so much they go get more tokens so they can be in private with me longer. I don't worry about them not having enough tokens.
Rarely is a new model able to entertain, get guys to tip, get guys to convert into sales. Do you sit there & look bored? Expecting them to entertain you? Did you know that was your JOB? Do you try to get into their heads once they go private & ask questions so you know what kind of show they want? Or do you immediately go to fucking yourself?
This is a sales job. Are you good at sales? Or do you believe men who have told you all your life all you have to do is look pretty or get naked to make money? Those men lied. Men often do to get what they want.
How much effort & time did you put into research before you started this job? You came here, posted this question when there is a newbie section & literally hundreds of threads of how to hustle & make money at camming. Did you read any of them & put them into practice?
How long did you cam for? Don't know anyone or any job where a person can put in a few hours & be a success at something they've never done before.
I pretty much make money whenever I log onto cam. But I spent YEARS building my brand, my fan base. I do marketing everyday even when I am sick. I perfect my cam game & regulars every time I go on. I studied this site for 3 months before even posting one time, even though I was a cam girl for 5 years before I found this site.
So did you lay the ground work to be a success?
Sam
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Originally Posted by
TheBrownFox
Hi, vixenluv. Based on the "Even the rare occasion I get a private, guys leave" part of your post, I get the feeling you're talking about MyFreeCams? Have you read the following threads?
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...-For-Cam-Girls
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...reeCams-Thread
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...kets-Challenge
See, my thing about MFC is that sometimes if you accept private shows from any 'ole body who buzzes you for private, it's a waste because some of those guys will have like only 90 tokens (which isn't even enough for 2 mins. of private) and will most likely bail the moment you start fucking your pussy. I'm pretty weary about accepting privates from random guys on MFC who've never tipped me, aren't on my friends list, and who have their token amount hidden. If you're going to accept privates with random guys who don't usually tip, at least maybe ask them to unhide their tokens...so you can see for yourself that they have enough. If they don't even have enough tokens for at least 5 mins. of private, I wouldn't even bother accepting it, but that's just me. Not to mention the fact that when a model leaves to go private, most of the other chatters clear out the room and move on to a different model. So you really do want each private you accept to be worth your time.
And no, camming isn't quick, easy money like many ladies believe it to be. Especially
lately...it seems to have been a bit rough for many of us. You've just started camming, so I'm sure that you'd really benefit from reading more of the threads on this forum. Check out those threads I linked, and remember...DO NOT ACCEPT PAYPAL FOR SKYPE SHOWS (figured I'd mention that since guys are notorious for requesting that) since PayPal forbids adult transactions and will penalize you for it. If the site you're referring to happens to be MFC, try to be consistent about your camming times on there. Regulars are very important on a site like MFC (and that's not an easy site to start out on, by the way), and it may help to have a Twitter account you use to tweet whenever you're online. Good luck!
Honey, never turn down a private. You never know when the others spying on your show will be you next private & a long one. :) Some of my longest privates on MFC never tipped me, but became my best tippers after a private. Keep an open mind & heart. I know it is hard & frustrating, but positive thoughts.
Sometimes guys get to excited & go private without realizing they didn't have enough tokens. And once back into public chat they went got more & take me prvt for a much longer session.
Although I find on MFC guys who go prvt arent about fucking my pussy but more about either my tits or ass. I rarely ever get my toys out for a show on that site.
You are a hot sexy woman who is on her game. I just adore you.
Sam
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Sam38g
Honey, never turn down a private. You never know when the others spying on your show will be you next private & a long one. :) Some of my longest privates on MFC never tipped me, but became my best tippers after a private. Keep an open mind & heart. I know it is hard & frustrating, but positive thoughts.
Sometimes guys get to excited & go private without realizing they didn't have enough tokens. And once back into public chat they went got more & take me prvt for a much longer session.
Although I find on MFC guys who go prvt arent about fucking my pussy but more about either my tits or ass. I rarely ever get my toys out for a show on that site.
You are a hot sexy woman who is on her game. I just adore you.
Sam
Aw, thank you, Sam! :)
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I love how Camming is like a pyramid scheme. GET RICH FAST!
It's really heavily marketed towards us ladies that it is. Especially with all these documentaries on the success on camming. I would really like to see both aspects. Someone with a strong hustle, and someone struggling.
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vixenluv
i thought camming would be quick money for me:'(
Well, that's the first problem. It's not. It takes time, effort, hard work. Just like anything else.
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Thank you all so much! Forgot to mention Im on streamate.
I dont think lighting is my problem, i sit directly under my ceiling light and you can see everything. I think its me. I admit I do just sit there and look bored but thats because theres no one in my room and when they do come in and start begging or wanting dirty talk for free and i just ignore them. I did read up on camming but most of the girls made it seem like they just hop on and the money rolls in. And sometimes when I look at other girls streaming they just sit there staring at the camera. i do see some girls fucking themselves with dildos in free chat but i dont see the logic behind that when they dont really seem to be making that much.
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vixenluv
Thank you all so much! Forgot to mention Im on streamate.
I dont think lighting is my problem, i sit directly under my ceiling light and you can see everything. I think its me. I admit I do just sit there and look bored but thats because theres no one in my room and when they do come in and start begging or wanting dirty talk for free and i just ignore them. I did read up on camming but most of the girls made it seem like they just hop on and the money rolls in. And sometimes when I look at other girls streaming they just sit there staring at the camera. i do see some girls fucking themselves with dildos in free chat but i dont see the logic behind that when they dont really seem to be making that much.
Nudity in free other than tits, on streamate, is against the rules and will get you banned eventually. So don't bother.
Ceiling light is awful, in my experience. It creates a lot of shadows. But... it doesn't sound like lighting is your biggest problem. You simply can't sit there looking bored, no matter how bored you actually are. Guys can hover over your profile photo and see into your room without even having to enter your room. They aren't going to bother to click into your room if they can see just by browsing around that you are incredibly bored.
You can turn some of those beggars into buyers... you have to hustle them. Hustle everyone. LEARN to hustle.
Those of us that hop on and make money, yah. That's what we do, now. After lots of work and building up regulars and learning what it takes to make that money.
Sorry it's not working out for you but.... you have to actually try to make it work. Sitting there being bored won't get you anywhere.
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To add to the other advice, I would suggest if you haven't already, that you buy into other girl's gold shows and watch what they do, how they pace themselves, angles and positions. Gold Shows are a great learning opportunity for beginning cam girls because you have the opportunity to watch a large variety of girls do their thing. In the successful shows the guys will be either saying encouraging things or they'll be silent (wanking), and in the not so good shows, the room count will be dropping and the guys will be complaining. Whenever you get private, try to emulate what the girls in the successful shows do, but don't be afraid to put your own spin on it. And camming isn't a get rich quick gig. It can take a few months to build up a decent income, so don't be discouraged.
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vixenluv
I admit I do just sit there and look bored but thats because theres no one in my room and when they do come in and start begging or wanting dirty talk for free and i just ignore them. I did read up on camming but most of the girls made it seem like they just hop on and the money rolls in.
Just hopping on and the money rolling in may have happened years and years ago when camming and the internet were brand new, but now thereis competition and you have to be offering something good to cause them to get out their wallet. Some of the dirty talkers could be buyers - they want you to convince them so maybe flirt a bit, definitely takes some hustling nowadays.
You don't want to give too much away, but also you have to realize some guys just sit and watch and when you act flirty and they like what they hear they will take you straight to private so you are not necessarily catgering to the dirty talkers when you flirt. Someone with a big wallet may overhear and swoop you into private.
You'll find your own hustle with time. Try lots of things and see which works. This business changes all the time and you need to roll with it or be left behind. It's not easy money like it's advertised to be.
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I can't emphasize anything these girls have said more. I, sadly, and I'm sure a few others here on SW ALSO thought camming was a get rich quick scheme. And like has been said, it takes work. It takes research, and luckily you have found this site - which is a connoisseur for all things cam. Adequate lighting, fast internet, a computer with a good processor, but above all personality is what takes the cake. I started with a shitty Windows 8 and built in laptop and was STILL able to pull 600 my first week on MFC. Because I was thrilled to be there! I can make money flirting and getting naked? Fuck yeah! These men like my thick thighs and chubby belly? Even better! Holding on to that positive attitude will make a HUGE difference in what you earn - but having the right equipment and the dedication to get on cam EVEN when it sucks is where the money really comes into play. Building regulars, being a familiar face, being someone they are always happy to see - you'll get there in time. MFC is a tough cookie for a first cam site but with the right hustel, you can do it. Best of luck to you.
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I always encourage people to try other sites until you find one that works for you.
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just wanted to let you guys know i followed the advice in here and started streamign using the HD encoder and being more engaging with guys in my room and WOW! My money has gone up so much in such a short amount of time! I am so grateful for this site because I was really feeling bad about myself like there was something wrong with me. I love SW!
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At the same time there are some of us ladies sitting there looking bored and still making $$. I get told that once in awhile by guys that come in and want me to do shit for them for free. FUCK THEM. That's a quick ban. ( especially if I'm in party mode where other guys can see what they're saying) .
Do not feel as if you have to do an all out 3 ring circus like on MFC in streamate. I do not entertain for free. That said I do have a personality. Offer flashes of tits, ass, stand, bend over, spank, ect. for whatever amount of gold you want to ask for in your room topic. ( no pussy flashes ever) That will give you something to do in free if they want to pay. You have to train them to pay.
Are you having a hard time talking/flirting with them? It sounds like you're feeling awkward.
And yes, SM is notorious for guys zipping in and out for whatever reason. Are your rates too high? I feel unless you're offering all kinds of whatever and/or you're stunning to look at or have a killer personality you might want to be more realistic to start. It's not easy $$$. Even sitting there "looking" bored takes a hella lot of effort believe it or not. Once you get moving then you can try rising your rates.
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It's my 4th year camming and I am still hustling my arse off! No easy or quick money in camming at all.
The only easy part about it is that you get to work from home and get to work when you want. When you see girls saying I've just earnt xxx amount in an hour that's because they have been doing it a looonggg time and have good regulars. These same girls will also have days where they earn nothing.
There is no rule book to camming or guide, the more you cam, the more you will find your niche and cam style and then guys will return to you for that.