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Customers asking for "extras"
Safe to say I got pretty pissed off at work last night. I had a customer come up to me and say hello. As usual, I greeted him and asked politely if he had been to the club before. Suddenly, he scoffed at me, got super offended, and said "Are you kidding me?" I really wanted to be rude to him, but I just said "What?" He proceeded to tell me that he was "very angry" and felt "really disrespected" because I didn't remember his name after supposedly giving him a dance last time he was in the club. Now I make it a solid point to remember customers and their names if they have potential to become a regular by buying a dance from me. I was positive I had never met this man before, and that he had me confused with someone else, but I continued to let him talk to see where things would end up. He proceeded to take me to one of the couches to chat. He tried to give me a lesson on business and selling myself, which I pretended to listen to while trying not to act too annoyed. I don't know why I didn't just walk away. It became evident to me that I had never met him before when he asked for a dance. I told him what the prices were, and he proceeded to say "Well, sure. Could you give me...a little something extra? You remember, you did last time." I never give extras. I have respect for myself, and my club and those running it. It is in my contract and my strict moral code that I can not, and will not, give out anything "extra" just for a couple extra bucks. Offer me a grand and I still won't do it. I managed to end the conversation without being rude after he tried to convince me to come to dinner with him and to hang out with him after work. I can't help but wonder if maybe I should have just been rude. Not like I would have gotten in trouble for it. What do you ladies do when customers ask for extras?
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Re: Customers asking for "extras"
Grow a spine. He was looking for a pushover, which fortunately you seem to not be, but to come in w/ a 'tude like that -- totally Uncalled For.
First of all when sm1 jumps in my kool-aid like that, I tell them very bluntly that I meet anywhere from 20 to 50 ppl each nite at work. I am horrid w/ remembering names & tell most good customers that up front, but I am a visual learner -- doesn't mean I remember Every. Single. Customer. By name + by sight.
You should have cut him right off when he started giving you 'sales advise' If it is that damn easy, he would be doing this job & raking in the big bucks instead of coming in & trying to pay for sex from strangers, which brings me to my final point:
*laugh uproariously* ' … extr … *wheeze* … smtg extra?! Really?! … *choke down last chuckles* If you had really gotten dances w/ me b4 you would already know that I don't roll that way.' *turn on heel & walk away, while brushing away tears of laughter at his pathetic-ness*
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I work in a club that is notorious for extras on day shift, and everybody knows who the resident dick suckers are, so this is a fairly common occurrence... So what I do when asked for extras depends on what kind of day I'm having.
On a good day, I cutely laugh and say "Oh I don't do anything but dance" and try to steer it into an immediate sale; sometimes if they're obviously enamored with me, they will get a dance or two anyway. On a bad day, I roll my eyes and tell them "Do I look like the type of girl who needs to suck dick to make money? No." That sometimes makes them feel like a jackass, which is somewhat satisfying.
(No offense to you ladies who escort on the side; I'm referring to the strippers who are so unskilled at sales/unattractive that they have to do it ITC for $40.)
On a REALLY bad day, when everybody in the room is "waiting for someone" (an extras girl) and shooting down the rest of us, I can get kinda mean. "Are you now? You're waiting for someone? Waiting for -insert name- huh?" Which often makes them super uncomfortable and is amusing.
With guys looking for extras, probably 9/10 times they are never going to be swayed back to the land of the clean customer, so I don't have any problem with being rude to them. It lets me blow off some steam, and it's no skin off any of the clean dancers noses if they never come back.
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It doesn't happen to me often, but when they ask I laugh and walk out of the dance.
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I have a lot of guys (usually the ones who have bad English ask in my experience) who ask for extras. I had one who after I said hello because he'd been staring at me, he immediately said "I just want to fuck." "Do I look like the kind of girl that needs to fuck for money?" He got a sheepish expression and mumbled, "but...I just want to fuck...I'll pay you more." "Guess what? You aren't the only one in here interested in me. I do damn well without fucking, and I don't give a shit about your money." He mumbled something else and I just sort of stormed/tried to cockily strut off.
I hate when customers are rude like that. I get so many of them, and it's just tiring.
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I point them in the direction of the nearest meth addict. ::)
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It's really interesting the range you get- I get asked for extras every shift without fail, and asked out (a lot of young shitheads in my area), but the phrasing can be so different. There is the sleazy yet wealthy central american drug dealer type that tells you straight out "You are sexy. I have a hotel room, how much for tonight? $2,000? No? I will do $3,000 but no more."
Then you you get the midwestern slightly retarded bit o' white trash boy; "I got $120 in my pocket- but I bet you've sucked plenty of dicks for less than that hunh? Probably for uglier guys too."
The kindly retired gentleman; "Really, you need another $500 for your bills this month? Well please don't take this the wrong way- and I mean nothing inappropriate by it- but I love the way you've been massaging my shoulders and if you ever decided to branch out I would love to get a private massage from you. Nothing inappropriate of course, but I would like to help you out and $500 is nothing."
The Europeans are so callous about it "how much do you charge for...?"" and then scoff disgustedly when you aren't available for their private entertainment.
Cat has the broken english begging down pat. Usually more groveling and "please, please!"in my experience.
I'm going to start telling them I can't break the law because I killed a man once and can't go back to jail :p
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Every single club in my city (Detroit) is notorious for extras. Even my club, which is proclaimed to be the cleanest in the city with it's open rooms with chairs next to each other, has extras occurring on day shift and some on night shift. The day shift is so slow that girls are usually in VIP with nobody else in there and can get away with handies or BJs. Night shift girls are sometimes caught doing handies, but that's about all they are able to get away with.
I often get guys who try to harass me into giving extras in VIP when there are sometimes 10 other girls and customers sitting around them lol. I simply tell them the club isn't set up for extra fun and they settle with that. I occasionally have customers who just pull their dick out on me and then I proceed to flip my shit on them and get them kicked out.
My particular problem is with Eastern Indian men. I know it is a cultural thing for them to grope women A LOT, but they assume it's okay with try to finger us during dances, too. Then I spend almost an entire song having to explain why it isn't acceptable at my club. Also, I'm a shorter brunette spinner type with Indian qualities, so I feel like they always want dances from me... but then I have to deal with the groping, etc. They also like to smell. It's weird. I've also noticed they're rude. They will literally wait in VIP and watch me dance for a customer. Once I'm finished, before the customer pays me(!!) they sit down and demand me to dance next.
Thankfully, the other girls at my club and I all have an unsaid mutual agreement about not doing extras, and if we catch someone doing them - we publicly shame that girl in the locker room (and then she's usually fired or suspended).
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I've come to learn that anyone who asks for extras is a MAJOR waste of time, unless of course you offer them.
When people ask me for it I don't bother with even excusing myself, I literally just walk away and move on to the next one. They've already wasted my time.
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I just tell them that I don't have a drug or Twinkie addiction to support. ::) I'm so glad I work at a clean club full of hot girls.
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He probably did that because he recognized a new face in the club and tried to take advantage.
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HallelujahHopkins
I'm going to start telling them I can't break the law because I killed a man once and can't go back to jail :p
I am stealing this line. OMG. So good!
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Ew as soon as a guy asks me for extra i shut that shit down. Number one i have a boyfriend. Number 2, I'm already dancing on you half naked and that's all you're getting. I always try to say no in like a cute dumb way like say it out loud in a high pitch cute voice," noooo I'm okay." Lololol
Not to mention dudes ask for my number, if i wanna go back to their condo, go out on the boat with them, etc. What a vibe killer. I have the kind of personality where I'm just kind of funny about things so if a bachelor party group is all like,"chyeah come back to our condo" I'm like how about no I'm going home i do not feel like getting gangbanged today (but I don't feel like getting gangbanged any day... well maybe if it was like 5 clones of my boyfriend). And they usually laugh so...
I haven't ever given anyone my number, i don't take numbers, it is not that serious. If the customer really wants to see me they know where i work and they'll respect my boundaries.
Just don't ever be rude just try to shut it down as calmly and flirty as you can. Remember you're around guys who've been drinking and when they're drinking and there's titties... yeah exactly. And if they are getting on your nerves just excuse yourself. Say i have to use the rest room or I'll be back hahaha.
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My friend Ariana from Daydreams said it best: "I'm pretty, I don't need to do that!"
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When someone asks for extras, I have a few things I do to entertain myself. Depends on the customer and whether I feel like they are a "will get extras if it's an option" guy or "here looking strictly for extras". I try never to be rude because sometimes a guy will still get dances once you've made it clear that you only do dances but seriously look at how hot I am don't you want to see me without this dress?
1. I act super confused and will force them to spell out exactly what they are looking for. That stops most of them with an "ugggh nevermind", but for those that keep going and explain the sex act, I get to look shocked and be like, "you want to do what with your what??? Why??" --> This is for guys I'm sure are just straight up looking for extras. I find it a lot of fun, so I leave laughing instead of in a crappy mood.
2. "oh noooo, if I got caught I'd lose my job and then I'd never be able to dance for you again! And I looooove dancing for you..." --> absolutely purr this during a sexy move and you should get a continuation.
3. If customer mentions what the "other girls" do, respond along the lines of, "do I look like the other girls?"--> practice delivery on this line, it needs to come off as confident and sexy, not just bitchy.
4. Explain that "If I wanted to do that, I wouldn't be here doing $20 lap dances. I'd be at home in my pj's waiting for responses on Backpage." --> Works well if you've been in a conversation with customer, a lot can see the reasoning in this.
If customers suggest OTC during a dance, try to get a conversation about it going rather than immediately shutting it down if you can. Not saying you would do it, obviously, but feign interest about it. I.e. "we should go out some time." "Ooh where would you take me?" etc. Sell the fantasy and keep dancing. I've worked in a very dirty club for a long time, and a hot clean dancer seducing a client makes a lot more money than the girls banging out hand jobs all night.
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I danced for a guy and made some money off of him. He then proceeded to tell me about how he has used escorts in the past and asks if I'd meet him OTC. I said "absolutely not, I won't do that for any amount of money". He then said "well how about you do it for free then? Just a blow job". I said "Hopefully you can lose some weight, bend over and learn how to suck your own dick because that's the only way you'll get it free" and walked off. It used to irritate me how often people expect extras and ask for them, but now it's freeing just to let out my aggression on those guys.
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my first over bank night came from a guy that I walked up to and imediately went for vip sale with. he hinted at extras and I just giggled and said oh no sweety im a starter not a finisher! because I set boundaries right then with a smile he was a perfect gentleman.
a lot of girls respond huffy and turn nice guys off. plus guys wonder when someone protests too much. as long as a gentleman maintains manners you should too, and you might make money if you remember to not always bite the hands that feed.
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^ wtf dude?
A gentleman doesn't go about strip clubs asking for sex. I hope you're just naive. Bite the hand that feeds??? L O L
I don't have time to jump down someone's throat over shit like this but woooow I'm not sitting around stressing if the guy wanting extras might have fed me. When you start thinking that YOU might be missing out instead of THEM you've already lost at this whole game.
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Oh, we might turn off nice guys??? This is nice? Asking how much a blow job or a fuck costs?
Like I said I hope you're naive so let me explain what a nice guy would be: comes in and doesn't waste time, buys dances/VIPs while understanding it's a strip club, not a brothel and therefore doesn't ask or pressure the dancer for more than dancing and RESPECTS said dancers guidelines/rules. Tips well and promptly leaves the building when he is out if spending money.
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susie2
my first over bank night came from a guy that I walked up to and imediately went for vip sale with. he hinted at extras and I just giggled and said oh no sweety im a starter not a finisher! because I set boundaries right then with a smile he was a perfect gentleman.
a lot of girls respond huffy and turn nice guys off. plus guys wonder when someone protests too much. as long as a gentleman maintains manners you should too, and you might make money if you remember to not always bite the hands that feed.
You mean don't bite the hands that finger?
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^ Haha Adrienne!
But it's true that sometimes you can set boundaries with extras-seekers and bank off them. I mean, if the club is slow. If you're a tiny bit desperate. If a guy asks me for a beej I'm telling him "Well, no one here does that and certainly not me, but if you really want one maybe ask Helga over there. If you want my beautiful body it's just a fabulous amazing naked dance." He can take a dance or walk, IDGAF.
I do agree that it's a little much to worry about offending every extras-seeker. They shouldn't be a consistent priority.
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kaninchen
I do agree that it's a little much to worry about offending every extras-seeker. They shouldn't be a consistent priority.
+1 ^^^^. IMO Customers who come to the club looking for extras deserve to be offended. Let them go put on their big-boy boxers & ring an escort.
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I want to respond to one like I'm trying to explain something to a stubborn toddler.
"Awww, now hun you know we don't do that here, but let me help you. There's these girls, they're called escorts (insert slow nod for understanding), and they're the ones who get paid to sleep with you. Not dancers, no. Dancers dance. Do you understand? Repeat after me: dancers daannce.(more nodding) There you go. Now let's get you in your big boy pants, and I'll show you how to use a phone so you can call one, OK?"
Of course I wouldn't waste that much time and would probably get told off as soon as I took on the condescending tone, but it'd be amusing to belittle them as much as they do us...and I'm feeling a little jaded and angsty right now.
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zsigginz
... I don't know why I didn't just walk away.
Yes, I really don't know why you don't just walk away. ::)
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A person's reaction to being asked for something they're against (extras or most other things for that matter) is often pretty telling of how fresh they are to that experience.
- when you start to encounter it, at first you get rather bemused people think to ask/do that thing in the first place
- when it happens repeatedly you go through a stage of being intensely annoyed/angrily retaliating
- finally reach a stage of relative nonchalance (because you realise ultimately that there is very little you can actually do to stop said idiocy from occurring).
You're at stage 2 but a LOT of us are stage 3 and that's why the general advice is not to engage with an extras seeker and simply to ignore and walk away. Not only is arguing with them futile but it can mess with your psyche (and hence £). You'll soon realise it's not worth it.
An exception I can forgive are guys who spend money then ask as a result of getting caught up in the fantasy because once you reassert your boundaries they often get it and back off. It's the ones who generally start the interaction seeking extras that are clear cut time wasters. Walk away from those and let them continue trying to convince to the empty spot your sexy self once occupied right in front of them.
On the flip side, you can always mess with them if it's a slow night and your feeling mischievous :mischievo When asked, say "Im sure I can do something for you" with a big smile and a knowing look. Take control of the convo and just whisper "Just give me a small amount - say £10 - to start with I'll give you something to get your juices flowing". Then get the £ and give them a couple pieces of this:Attachment 38599
Needless to say, they should know better not to ask again }:D