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New site, better commission...
Hello everyone,
I recently launched a new site which I've quit my job and invested my life's savings to create - I felt I could outdo sites like clips4sale, and other similar sites by offering better commission rates, accepting bitcoin (which allows instant withdrawals) and having a better interface and community features.
My site is www.babesforbitcoin.com and at the moment we are in beta - so we are looking for models who will stick with us as we grow. I expect a few months from now we will have top threads here with models discussing their six figure salaries as well. Every model that has signed up and been verified for our 2257 requirements, then uploaded an item for sale, has made a sale within 24 hours. We are quickly growing and it's only our 4th day in.
Some features
- 65% flat commission during beta
- Sell both photosets and videos
- Site created tags, to ensure accuracy and ease of finding exactly what you're looking for
- Extremely fast approval times
- Direct customer service, I am always available and have already had quite a few compliments on my customer service
- Simple, fast, up to date interface
- Quick programming fixes, find a bug? Implemented within 48 hours.
Upcoming features
- 65% - 90% commission after beta ends, 5% increase for every 5k in lifetime SALES (not earnings)
- 1 on 1 camchat with per minute billing
- Featured Blog, we'll interview you on our dedicated blog to increase your sales
- Retouch Services, professional photoshop retouching, this service is available now upon request first photoset for free. (and ridiculously cheap after that)
- Referral bonuses, earn a percentage of sales from models you refer to the site!
- Much more!
If you have any questions you can contact us through the site or direct message me here.
Sign up is free, and very quick, just click "New User Registration" at the bottom of our home page!
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
Good for you.
Now since nobody is making money off of bitcoins in adult why do you think you will? Why all the sites that have given that as an option never made one single sale with it?
2.5 million people in the WORLD have bitcoins that is like not even 1% of the population, much less porn buying population.
This isn't whether or not about being friendly, but about business.
How will you compete with all the free tube sites?
How will you get traffic? Without traffic you don't have sales. I have personally already seen a clip site fail that I signed up for last year.
You want girls to sign up & stick through it till it finally starts making money. Not an option. Many of us are NOT going to spend the hours it takes on cam so that you will have girls on if traffic does show up to convert into sales. Not when we can already log onto established sites with traffic & sales. Cause 65% of maybe one sale does NOT compare to 35% of lots & lots of sale in the same amount of time spent.
As an adult site owner, even though it is a solo girl site. Generating sales & lots of them isn't a matter of months but a lot longer than that to happen.
Just because you invested your life savings has nothing to do with us. It is a risk you deemed worth taking. That is all on you, not us. What proven success in this business model have you achieved? Adult is not easy or instant money maker the mainstream world likes to think it is.
Many have stated they will be bigger than c4s, yet it still rules.
Sam
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
Thanks so much for your reply Sam,
Actually, the majority of my sales in bitcoin so far have been in bitcoin. However, my site accepts credit cards, direct bank accounts, and bitcoin - so we do cash as well.
In all honesty I didn't expect to make many sales in bitcoin just yet, I figured it wasn't popular enough, however it's been almost all bitcoin, which has been awesome because it's already allowed my models to withdraw their earnings, rather than wait for the monthly USD payout that we have.
Competition with free tube sites is basically due to the custom content nature of the site. You want something specific to your tastes? Stop on by and ask, we already have models who are willing to fulfill your specific requests and I am sure more are on their way.
Traffic is a tough question to answer, so far I am working on the direct marketing approach, posts much like this one - along with finding models and speaking with them directly, as well as in person. I haven't yet found an advertising venue on which to use my advertising budget on, and I'm not sure there is one out there that's right for us. But I will keep my eye out, would love to hear if you have any suggestions.
At the moment we don't even have cam's - so the only time investment is to log in and upload some photos and videos. I've had all models who have done so make sales within their first 24 hours of upload, and see the trend continuing. Cams won't be a functionality until we have a larger user base and there won't be any spending time on cam, as you won't get on cam unless you receive a request for a camshow based off of your profile, photosets, videos, and conversations.
As I've said, we are already generating sales, buyers haven't been much issue so far, what's been tough is finding models - I am really hoping this site will help me find some users who are interested in checking us out.
Letting you know that I invested my life savings isn't a way of begging for your business, I was hoping to make it clear that I am in this for the long haul, and I'll be there for all of my users - I love you all, and I am so happy when anyone is willing to drop by and sign up. Even if they don't stay, I REALLY appreciate them taking a moment to look, as we all have busy lives it's not easy to spend time on new things. I just need it to be clear that I won't abandon my site down the road like so many sites seem to do once they are making money.
I'm not sure thinking we'll be bigger than c4s, I just feel if I can run a site that offers more money for doing the same thing, then why wouldn't you want to join up?
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Actually, DDuckworth, I want to be quite truthful with you about your site appeal. It looks very plain and lacks a lot of color. In addition, it looks very mainstream and a little vanilla. Plus a lot of established adult entertainers want to see some results before signing up. This is because there are too many people who think that adult industry is easy money and did not research things properly. Also why should the model wait 30 days to upload videos or photos? Clips4sale allow me to upload in a few days. Also would the models have to do all of their own marketing? Or would you help with the marketing?
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Originally Posted by
DDuckworth
Thanks so much for your reply Sam,
Actually, the majority of my sales in bitcoin so far have been in bitcoin. However, my site accepts credit cards, direct bank accounts, and bitcoin - so we do cash as well.
In all honesty I didn't expect to make many sales in bitcoin just yet, I figured it wasn't popular enough, however it's been almost all bitcoin, which has been awesome because it's already allowed my models to withdraw their earnings, rather than wait for the monthly USD payout that we have.
Competition with free tube sites is basically due to the custom content nature of the site. You want something specific to your tastes? Stop on by and ask, we already have models who are willing to fulfill your specific requests and I am sure more are on their way.
Traffic is a tough question to answer, so far I am working on the direct marketing approach, posts much like this one - along with finding models and speaking with them directly, as well as in person. I haven't yet found an advertising venue on which to use my advertising budget on, and I'm not sure there is one out there that's right for us. But I will keep my eye out, would love to hear if you have any suggestions.
At the moment we don't even have cam's - so the only time investment is to log in and upload some photos and videos. I've had all models who have done so make sales within their first 24 hours of upload, and see the trend continuing. Cams won't be a functionality until we have a larger user base and there won't be any spending time on cam, as you won't get on cam unless you receive a request for a camshow based off of your profile, photosets, videos, and conversations.
As I've said, we are already generating sales, buyers haven't been much issue so far, what's been tough is finding models - I am really hoping this site will help me find some users who are interested in checking us out.
Letting you know that I invested my life savings isn't a way of begging for your business, I was hoping to make it clear that I am in this for the long haul, and I'll be there for all of my users - I love you all, and I am so happy when anyone is willing to drop by and sign up. Even if they don't stay, I REALLY appreciate them taking a moment to look, as we all have busy lives it's not easy to spend time on new things. I just need it to be clear that I won't abandon my site down the road like so many sites seem to do once they are making money.
I'm not sure thinking we'll be bigger than c4s, I just feel if I can run a site that offers more money for doing the same thing, then why wouldn't you want to join up?
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
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Originally Posted by
DonaDiabla
Actually, DDuckworth, I want to be quite truthful with you about your site appeal. It looks very plain and lacks a lot of color. In addition, it looks very mainstream and a little vanilla. Plus a lot of established adult entertainers want to see some results before signing up. This is because there are too many people who think that adult industry is easy money and did not research things properly. Also why should the model wait 30 days to upload videos or photos? Clips4sale allow me to upload in a few days. Also would the models have to do all of their own marketing? Or would you help with the marketing?
Hi Dona, thank you so much for your response - I very much appreciate the feedback. I did the entire site design myself, so it's been tough to step back and see the faults in it since I've been working on it so long. I was striving to go for a very clean, straight to the point no frills approach. To me, it's all about the models, the site interface simply needs to look up to date, so that I can allow all focus to be on the models, and not a bunch of flashy business.
I can understand waiting for results before signing up, the site has only been live and on the web for 4 days now - we have had over $50 in sales, and at the time of writing to you, we have 50 contributors whom have joined to see the models. However we have a serious lack of models, only 3 active models and only 2 of them have actually uploaded anything for sale. So all I need are models truly. I definitely have not seen this as easy money, I quit my job so that I could put all of my time into this, because I knew it would be a LOT of hard long work in order to get going. I have worked 12 hour days to promote the site since launch, and will continue to do so for months to come.
I am not sure where you got the 30 days wait time number, please let me know so I can clear up any documentation which may be incorrectly noted. The only requirement before being able to sell is to provide a government issued ID of some form, showing only photo - name - and date of birth. Once that is uploaded you are welcome to sell immediately. Again, keep in mind we have only been live for 4 days (this is the 4th) and we have already pulled in multiple sales from multiple contributors. So there is definitely not any 30 day wait involved. You can actually sell on the very same day of joining, much faster than clips4sale.
I am not asking the models to do any marketing, if they wish to promote themselves they are more than welcome to, but I am actively promoting (along with my girlfriend who is helping me promote the models) all models who join up. I have found several venues which will allow me to market the models, I simply have a lack of models to promote.
Finally, I am holding on tight to an advertising budget, which I have been waiting to find the right place to spend it, if you or anyone has advice on a good spot to get some quality traffic (not quantity) I am open to hear it.
Again, thank you for taking a look, I appreciate getting feedback from a true veteran!
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
Oh DDuckworth, I believe you need some flash for the models. Remember ladies love some sort of flash and color. I believe that attracting some ladies with some color would be a step in the right direction. There is a small texting company that uses some pink and purple backgrounds to attract texters to their site. Just a suggestion :)
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Originally Posted by
DDuckworth
Hi Dona, thank you so much for your response - I very much appreciate the feedback. I did the entire site design myself, so it's been tough to step back and see the faults in it since I've been working on it so long. I was striving to go for a very clean, straight to the point no frills approach. To me, it's all about the models, the site interface simply needs to look up to date, so that I can allow all focus to be on the models, and not a bunch of flashy business.
I can understand waiting for results before signing up, the site has only been live and on the web for 4 days now - we have had over $50 in sales, and at the time of writing to you, we have 50 contributors whom have joined to see the models. However we have a serious lack of models, only 3 active models and only 2 of them have actually uploaded anything for sale. So all I need are models truly. I definitely have not seen this as easy money, I quit my job so that I could put all of my time into this, because I knew it would be a LOT of hard long work in order to get going. I have worked 12 hour days to promote the site since launch, and will continue to do so for months to come.
I am not sure where you got the 30 days wait time number, please let me know so I can clear up any documentation which may be incorrectly noted. The only requirement before being able to sell is to provide a government issued ID of some form, showing only photo - name - and date of birth. Once that is uploaded you are welcome to sell immediately. Again, keep in mind we have only been live for 4 days (this is the 4th) and we have already pulled in multiple sales from multiple contributors. So there is definitely not any 30 day wait involved. You can actually sell on the very same day of joining, much faster than clips4sale.
I am not asking the models to do any marketing, if they wish to promote themselves they are more than welcome to, but I am actively promoting (along with my girlfriend who is helping me promote the models) all models who join up. I have found several venues which will allow me to market the models, I simply have a lack of models to promote.
Finally, I am holding on tight to an advertising budget, which I have been waiting to find the right place to spend it, if you or anyone has advice on a good spot to get some quality traffic (not quantity) I am open to hear it.
Again, thank you for taking a look, I appreciate getting feedback from a true veteran!
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
I signed up for the heck of it, I figured why not atleast try it. But .wmv files are not allowed. it wouldn't accept my upload. I emailed support about this, hopefully they will add .wmv files as an accepted file type. I would rather not waste my time converting 200 videos to another format.
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
Hey Takiaya! In order to accept WMV's we must implement a program to convert them as you upload to the site (which doubles storage and server usage) for beta, we had not implemented this as we expected mostly MP4's and a few other native supported formats by flash.
However, I very much want to accept every video type - so I am investing in getting that functionality going as my first priority in our ever ongoing site improvements. I'll be sure to let you know when it's ready.
On another note, I did not receive an email from you about the issue, so please let me know which email you used as I want to make sure it's functioning correctly.
I am so happy to have you aboard!
On a side note everyone, we just got featured in Men's Health Magazine - Check it out!
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What's the minimum payout? How often are payouts, what forms of payment are there and do you absorb chargebacks? Is this a US based business?
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
Hi Juliette,
Thanks for your interest!
The minimum payout for cash is $20, and during beta we are doing them once a month on the 15th, payments must be in by the 9th so that the funds will be available by the 15th to be sent out. In the coming months (likely next month since things are going smoothly) we plan to increase the payout to twice a month, and possibly get it down to every two weeks if there are no kinks in the road.
There is no minimum payout for bitcoin, and it can be withdrawn immediately to a coinbase account. This account can be used to either send the bitcoin to your personal address without any further validation (just email) or you can convert it to cash through coinbase and withdraw as cash directly.
We accept bitcoin, direct deposit, and credit card, and can pay out through direct bank account with Dwolla (only .25c for withdrawal) or Bitcoin through Coinbase. If you need another method of payment, such as a check I am sure we could arrange that. We are always open to new forms of payment, so if there was a demand for paxum or payoneer, we would certainly consider it.
Edit: I left out, we are absorbing chargebacks :)
Thank you for your questions and please let me know if there's anything else I can help with!
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Are you able to pay via wire/ bank transfer to the UK? Is there an extra % for international payments? How are sales going now?
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
Hi Susie,
Thanks so much for your interest! I actually thought we had the ability to wire to the UK using our ACH depositor, but it turns out they only do the US. However since I am constantly expanding the site I would be more than happy to open up to the international market by adding that function. Is there a payment processor you prefer to use for that service that we should look into? I am going to get to researching now and see what I can get going.
However, bank transfer wouldn't be a necessity if you were to try out bitcoin, it would be very simple, accept the BTC to the exchange of your choice, withdraw immediately (instead of monthly bank payouts) then sell it instantly for your local currency. I would recommend going with the exchange BTC-E, you could just sign up for a free account there and try it out, it's very simple once you give it a shot. If you'd like a tutorial on how to do each step of this let me know and I'll be happy to write one up for you.
Nonetheless, I still know that I'll need to get a system in place for withdrawals to the UK, so I am going to implement this whether or not you want to try the BTC option, but there are DEFINITELY going to be wayyyy less fees for taking that route.
Sales are steady at the moment, I'm not going to lie and say they are going through the roof, but we have a good steady stream of about 6 new buyers per day, with sales being steady and daily. I have literally JUST purchased a ton of advertising, and am buying more, we are finishing up our preview page with expectations that our sign up rate will increase significantly with a preview of the models we now have available. And once that is complete our advertising spending is going to quadruple. I'm out there every day working hard for my models, and even creating graphics and banners for their personal use, so if there's anything I can do to convince you this site is going to be worth your time, just let me know! :D
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Hi everyone, just wanted to update the thread and let everyone know we now have a functioning preview page and have fixed many a bug! Would love to have more of you come on over. Thanks for looking!
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I know this is focused at the models, but as a Customer, why do I have to create an account in order to purchase content? I went to your site with the intention to make a purchase, but this scared me off. I could create a fake email address in order to sign up, but that kind of defeats the purpose. I have made purchases of C4S, and I'm not a member there (I don't know if they have members there)
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Well my good friend you have a point there...I had actually considered this recently thinking about how we can succeed in the market. The original reasoning was so that you could message models and they could message you, allowing you to say hello or make custom request. Of course this would also include the model thanking you for your purchase. However I see no reason why you shouldn't be able to buy something if you have no wishes to do anything else, and I think we'll be transitioning over to this method thanks to your comment. I'll be sure to comment this thread again once we have the non-member purchase functionality available.
In the meantime, you don't actually need to create an extra email address with an email service in order to sign up. We do not require email verification, therefore you can just type [email protected] and sign on up. The only reason we ask for email is so that you'll have the ability to opt-in for notifications about new messages or items sent to you. (We are opt-in only, no spam mail)
I hope this answers your question and I appreciate your feedback!
EDIT: Upon further inspection Clips4sale does require email, address, name, etc upon purchase - if I may ask what reason this feels more comfortable than actually signing up? Perhaps we should mention on our signup page that there is no email validation required?
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Your right about the clips for sale requiring an email address. It just seems normal to type out my credit card details then type in my email address for the receipt, the other way around seems weird (really weird to me). Maybe I'm just a creature of habit. When I'm shopping, I enter the (virtual) store, see what I want, check the pice, make the purchasing decision, then go through the mechanics. To go through the mechanics, enter the store, see what I want, check the price, make the purchase just doesn't feel right. Amazon, Purchasing MFC tokens (other than the initial signup, where every member promises himself he's not going to spend money) and C4S all have it in that order, I guess I freaked when I saw the new order. On a slightly related note, the term "contributor" doesn't seem right for "bloke buying porn".
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We are definitely changing "Contributor" we've had too many confusions on that one. I would say it's certainly in the same style as MFC, free signup promise yourself you won't spend money and so forth. I guess the problem comes that you can't see what you might want beforehand, which is why we built our preview page. There will definitely be some changes coming our way though!
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Hi Everyone, we have new updates to announce, we now accept the following filetypes:
WMV, MP4, 3GP, MOV
We've also changed "Contributor" to "Fan" as well as many photoset functionality increases.
I know some lovely ladies have been waiting on the WMV, and for phone and mac users 3GP and MOV are essential! Please let us know how you like the site and if you experience any issues just email or write to us here.
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I edited your title. No need to single out any one website as your competitor.
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yeah wait til the feds take care of the bitcoin industry. just a matter of time...
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Re: New site, better commission than clips4sale!
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Djoser
I edited your title. No need to single out any one website as your competitor.
Hi Djoser, thank you so much. I've regretted that title for months now, but couldn't find a way to change it. It was certainly naive of me being a new site owner and all. Is there any chance you could change the title to "The BabesForBitcoin Thread" please?
As for Sara of clips4sale, I apologize to you and your company, I hope you understand.
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AmyLynne
yeah wait til the feds take care of the bitcoin industry. just a matter of time...
Sure there's always a chance when the world changes that the government will attempt to stop it. Companies like Overstock, Dell, Newegg, TigerDirect, 1-800-Flowers, and many other large named companies accept bitcoin as a direct payment method. I am thinking we will be ok. Thank you for your input!
For everyone else we also accept cash/credit!
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I'm curious, but my specialty is niche fetishes, like vore and Giantess. Would fetish content fit in?
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Hi Tasha, we are working on becoming known for custom fetish content, so certainly your specialties are more than welcome! We already have a few fetishes going and I am very excited to think of having some of the more niche ones come on board. Hope to see you there! If you have any other questions feel free to write here or contact me at [email protected].
HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!