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will i have to become an extras girl to make money in LA?
It seems like LA is a tough place to make money as a clean dancer esp a black one but I am desperate for cash and my govt benefits are being cut because i cant keep up with their requirements and go to school and take care of my daughter on my own. im stuck in a shitty town full of druggies and convicted felons and I have to get us out of this shithole. i dont want to fuck for $100 but I will if it will provide a better life for my daughter. Honestly thats just how desperate I am. Im tired of being stressed out all the time. Camming isnt making enough for me to live on and I dont have the start up cash to post an ad on eros and escort properly. This just seems like my only real option at the time.
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Wow..I was just about to post a similar thread. I've been dancing in Atlanta for almost 2 years now and it seems like since June, the $$ has been GONE..or owned by pimps or bouncer-pimps/madams.
I am differentiating my income by doing body rubs and escorting on the side, but both are with agencies and are also RIDICULOUSLY slow, despite photographer, other girls, and mgmt. telling me that I'll be busy as hell once my pics are up.
I just tried a different club tonight although it's ratchet and appears to be full of pimps with hos and dopeboys walking the streets outside..lol. I got hired at a better club but not sure if I should pay the $300 for the permit or pay 2 months of back rent first???!
As far as body rubs and escorting in ATL goes, it seems like maybe it's more lucrative to just BP it instead of wasting SO much time with agencies/mgmt./other girls effin up ur money. However, I am not sure how to go about booking hotels/incalls and staying safe as an indie girl?
Trickin'/Sugar Babying/extras seem like possible options but I have even had times where apparently a custie was basically owned by a pimp and his cheap ho and the next time the custie came to the club, the bouncer-pimp-manager made damn sure he didn't spend a single dollar on me. Please be VERY careful if you do any of these things BC chances are the custie is "managed" and claimed much in the same way a ho is managed and claimed.
I, too, am starting to realize what a shithole ATL really is. Dirty ass cops, bums layin on the sidewalk downtown, trashy court officials, and SOOO many pimps and really cheap hookers..lol!! I am really tired of being broke all the time and everyone telling me how pretty I am and how I should be making thousands a night. If I get evicted I guess I'll get the fuck out of GA & do a strip/escort/body rub tour and couch surf or stay in extended stays until I figure out where I can AT LEAST make enough money to SURVIVE and eat noodles until I come up with $$ to get a place!!
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I'm told that the LA 'extras' / escort market has gotten 'cheap' lately. This is supposedly at least partially due to ~90% of the SoCal porn industry moving production elsewhere ( thanks to 'condom' laws ), thus leaving hundreds ?? of ( former ) SoCal porn girls without their ( former ) porn paychecks. Thus many of these girls have increased their strip club 'extras' / escort activities to make up for those lost porn earnings.
When a particular market has lots of 'well known' girls starting to provide 'services' at normal prices, this translates into 'unknown' girls being forced to lower price levels for their own 'services' if they want to continue getting future business.
Another example of the 'law of unintended consequences' I suppose !
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Melonie
I'm told that the LA escort market has gotten very 'cheap' lately. This is supposedly at least partially due to ~90% of the SoCal porn industry moving production elsewhere ( thanks to 'condom' laws ), thus leaving hundreds ? or thousands ? of ( former ) SoCal porn girls without their ( former ) porn paychecks. Thus many of these girls have increased their escort activities to make up for those lost porn earnings.
When a particular market has lots of 'well known' girls starting to provide escort services at 'normal' prices, this translates into 'unknown' girls being forced to lower price levels for their own escort services if they want to continue getting future 'business'.
Another example of the 'law of unintended consequences' I suppose !
While I've never been an escort, I run with this crowd sometimes and that is my city.
Porn production didn't move away. They just shoot and hope to not get busted. Many of the people who work in porn own houses and have lives here, so they wouldn't move. They also often shoot other stuff that can still be shot (i.e. solo nudes, fetish, mainstream/film stuff) so there would be no reason for them to move away anyway. If anything, porn would move right outside SFV.
Second, the escorts that are pornstars are with at least 1 of about 5 different agencies that are almost completely under the radar and work out of black books. There is one that advertises on a major site, but none advertise on backpage. Porn girls aren't your average girls posting on backpage and stuff like that. They cater to the really wealthy and charge comparable prices (1800-2200/hr being common), even though the agency does take around half of it. Most of them tour or would be open to it if they got steady bookings at their rates.
While it would make sense to have more steady business with average pricing if they wanted the higher volume, they could not use their porn name or the agency would flip out and drop them. So they would have to create a faux stage name and crop & blur really well, thus making use of their "name" completely pointless because they couldn't use it at all. And remember, TER links profiles together so its only a matter of time til a guy recognizes her and links it with her porn (agency) TER profile. So this is impossible and dumb to do IMO.
That being said, anyone I know who has danced in LA, really does not make that good of money. Like almost non-livable I suppose. And you will basically need to fake promise to provide extras and then ninja chop hands the whole night if you do want to make money, so it might be better to just travel dance. California isn't exactly the place for dancing.
You're better off to just dancing in LA and see what happens. Who knows. But I do know that LA is flashy city and those with money wouldn't be caught dead in a strip club. I think maybe they think its beneath them or something. LA is a weird place, because no where else in the US (that I've been to or heard of) has that kind of mentality.
So escorting here is very preferential due to the flash factor. And since you can get 1 hour of an escort's time for much cheaper than you'd pay for 1 hour in a champagne room, it just makes this even more an "escort" city. Competition even for that is really high since scam agencies have learned to make dozens of faux profiles that look real, when its all really like 1 or 2 girls. So that's kind of dumb. its not really an ideal city in general for a dancer or escort IMO.
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dancingdiva1
I don't understand why you would move to a city like Los Angeles that is notorious for having such a high cost of living? Anyway, the best places to work have a good amount of hot girls, many do extra stuff both inside / outside the club--- some don't charge much, some girls charge $1,000+. I work in a high contact nude club and make great $$$ without having to fuck customers, so it's possible - but it is not easy. For what it's worth, whether you do extra's or not most girls who work here will tell you the same thing and that it's a hard hustle. I spend a good amount of my life in the gym and invested in plastic surgery, regular salon / spa cosmetic stuff ect and I can literally sell sand to the beach and still I suffer sometimes.
A lot of people are here because their families are here or because they want to work in film/TV/entertainment/etc
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OP, if I were you I would save up as much $ as you can and move to the Midwest or somewhere with a low cost of living where dancers still make decent money without getting dirty. Preferably an area where black girls are more rare and can really bank-like a white suburb in Illinois, Wisconsin or Michigan. You can do very well and provide a nice life for your daughter. It sounds like it would be impossible to get ahead in LA where extras girls are a dime a dozen.
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As a black dancer, the east coast has been much more lucrative for me than the west. Now while Ive never danced in LA I know other girls that have and said it was so not worth it.
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Live in LA dance in Vegas, great formula and has worked for hundreds of girls for at least the past 25 + years
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Wasn't there a poster on here Audrey? who said she made a ton of money being a clean dancer in LA? Maybe she'll chime in here.
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dancingdiva1
I don't understand why you would move to a city like Los Angeles that is notorious for having such a high cost of living? Anyway, the best places to work have a good amount of hot girls, many do extra stuff both inside / outside the club--- some don't charge much, some girls charge $1,000+. I work in a high contact nude club and make great $$$ without having to fuck customers, so it's possible - but it is not easy. For what it's worth, whether you do extra's or not most girls who work here will tell you the same thing and that it's a hard hustle.
Umm actually I was born and raised in southern california so this is my home where all of my family lives.
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What do you look like? Can you hustle? You will need to get rid of your desperation or hide it flawlessly if you want to succeed. Customers can smell it like a shark smells blood and they will take advantage of you. If you are good-looking, merciless, and very patient, you can build a better life for yourself and your daughter here.
And don't worry about having to fuck for $100, unless you're working in the worst club ever?! Girl, cheap escorts don't even charge that! Who told you that was a thing?
If you're desperate and need $$ that badly, just pick a nearby club that looks decent, get off SW, and go dance.
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Travel to another town to strip. Sounds like your area isn't worth it. Or, consider a different job if you're open to it? I heard night club bottle service is decent over there. Bartend or waitress at an upscale restaurant/lounge. Good luck. I hope you find something soon!
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You'll be fine in LA without doing extras. Extras happen, but not every dancer does them. The majority do not. Just stay true to yourself.
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Laurisa posted a very helpful thread in HH addressing this very situation. Too lazy to look up the link right now but its title is smtg along the lines of 'How to survive & make $$ in a club w/ heavy extras' She posted that one & another around the same time that was a 'How to' along the same lines.
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https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...lub-area/page2
Found the thread but it was saying that it's an invalid thread now?? Where did it go?? This thread was a lifesaver and I think it's gone now :(
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^Same, I found it this morning to post it in this thread and I got the same error.
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^^^^ :confused: Nooooooo! Admins, make it come back! Make it come back!!! :weeping:
Esp w/ the way this industry is deteriorating, I think that thread has been & would continue to be a lifesaver for a lot of girls.
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https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...your-club-area
I'm not sure what you guys are seeing when you click it on? It's working fine for me. What error message is popping up for you?
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This is what is says for me.
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Starling
This is what is says for me.
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Same for me
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Fixed!
That was totally my bad. Good call, ladies! Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
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wednesday86
OP, if I were you I would save up as much $ as you can and move to the Midwest or somewhere with a low cost of living where dancers still make decent money without getting dirty. Preferably an area where black girls are more rare and can really bank-like a white suburb in Illinois, Wisconsin or Michigan. You can do very well and provide a nice life for your daughter. It sounds like it would be impossible to get ahead in LA where extras girls are a dime a dozen.
I've been thinking about this a lot lately actually. When I see people talk about how they live in "bad neighborhoods" and don't want that life for their children. Why don't they move the midwest?! Sure, in the major cities there is still crime. But I grew up in a small town in the suburbs and still live in the suburbs. The schools are great, people are friendly, there is lots of support and assistance, rent is cheap, lots of jobs available. People are willing to help. It's great out here!
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I think the Midwest idea is nice in theory, but its not always easy for people to up and move to another part of the country where they might not have any support system or benefits of being a local. Aso moving to the Midwest from big cities like LA or NYC can bring a culture shock.
Clubs with money in the Midwest is not always a guarantee either. I moved to a cheaper cost of living area and the clubs suck where I am. Its like the money potential is adjusted to the cost of living.I'm just more used to money I made in bigger cities.
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If you can't make enough to support yourself and kid being a clean dancer, yo obviously need to learn how to hustle. I work primarily in Detroit which is notorious for being the Mecca of extras. I make good money. I entered the industry with boundaries, with a full knowledge of how dirty the Detroit clubs are. I said that despite the "average" Detroit girl, I was going to be clean and still make a nice living. Which I have. Also, like has already been pointed out, L.A. (Cali in general) tends to be expensive. High cost of living.
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I figured I'd chime in since I lived & worked in LA for about 10 years on & off, but mostly on. I worked in Hollywood on sunset where our tourists were. I made a decent living for myself, however I don't have kids or anyone else to take care of, which that can def change the dynamic. I mostly had good nights that were consistent, but I also hustled my ass off. I usually drank at work to make my hustle roll off my tongue easier, which worked every time. I will say that I did work with lots of extras girls & the club mngt used to turn their head in the vip room on things that were happening. I personally never was an extras girl. Yea I let them smack my ass or booby grope but ONLY if the were providing a huge tip upfront first. Most of my custys were tourists from all over which was awesome bc they were usually unaware of just how "rampant" extras were in that club. You can mostly avoid extras if you have a smart hustle. It may seem hard to learn at first but overtime anyone can develop their own & what works for them .I learned that the real key to hustling is you just gotta know how to talk to people. Hope this helps!