Custom video - what do I tell him?
Hi everyone, I could really use some advice on this please!
I make custom videos and I have a listing for them on my online shop on Adultwork, but I make it very clear in the listing that you have to email me first and tell me what you want in your custom video so that I can let you know if I can do it, and then once i've given you the go-ahead, you can buy it from my shop. Just to avoid having to refund people when they buy the video and then tell me they want me to fuck a dog or whatever stupid shit us camgirls have to hear on a daily basis!
Anyway, yesterday a man emailed me wanting to buy a custom video and asked if I did a few things. I replied with what I do and don't do and he sent me this:
"Great! So ..... you are going to play Hannah Montana for me :)
Outfit - can you wear something teeny tiny? A tiny skirt and bikini top? And I love stripper shoes! Would it be possible to know what is in your outfit collection?
Hair and makeup - can you wear your hair up in a high ponytail up and to the side? Lots of slutty teen makeup!
If possible can you film in the day somewhere like a kitchen (bored of bedrooms!) with lots of light.
Can you do the following for me;
Start by dancing to the Hannah Montana song 'rockstar' you will find it on youtube. Do lots of ass twerking! Then you can tell me you just got off stage and how sweaty you are, tell me to lick it up. Then go on about how fucking famous you are and how all the guys perv over you and how horny it makes you.
Make something up about how getting so horny makes you want to piss. Then piss into a glass, then tell me to get on my knees and pour it just in front of the cam telling me to drink down Hannah Montana's piss, how lucky I am and call me a greedy boy!!
Then tell me that what makes Hannah-fucking-Montana most horny is fucking her hot ass. Spend a minute stretching if in front of the cam for me then toy it.
Say that anal fucking makes you get all piggy and do some loud piggy noises :) I love that!!
Tell me how nasty your ass would taste, tell me if I'm lucky I'll get to taste Hannah Montana's hot teen shit one day; just talk as nasty as you can!!
I think as long as you talk dirty from start to finish I'll be happy, just keep reminding me that you're Hannah Montana and calling me daddy!
Let me know if ok and I'll sort out payment for you xxxxx"
Now, I can do all of those things and would have no problem making that video and he has lots of positive feedback so I know he has bought videos before. But that is a hell of a lot of detail and he seems like the kind of customer who has such a specific idea of what he wants that if I veered from it even a little, he'd be unsatisfied. Normally I just have guys who say "I want to see you strip from fully clothed in a cute outfit down to naked, then play with your pussy and cum while moaning my name, Dave" or something. And I can make a video like that in one take with minimal editing. But this seems like it would take ages to film and edit and I would have to keep retaking if I messed up even a tiny bit.
So I replied:
"Hi again,
The answers to quite a lot of the questions you've asked me (including my outfit collection) are on my profile, so please give that a read.
I can do all of that for you but because your requests are quite specific and demanding and it would take a lot of time for me to film and edit your video I will have to charge double. If you would like to go ahead, just order 2 copies of whatever length video you want from my store and i'll make it for you tomorrow.
Thanks,
*my stagename* x"
And then I got this in response!
"That's great. Can you advise how you could simplify my request so it only requires one video purchase?"
How the hell do I reply to that? He's basically asking "How do I get as much of what I want as physically possible while paying the cheapest price I can?" I feel like just saying fuck it because he seems rude and demanding and cheap, but I really need as much money as I can get right now because i've had to have some unexpected, very expensive dental work done. How would you go about dealing with this?
P.S. Really sorry for the very long post! Any advice at all would be really, really great. Thanks!
Re: Custom video - what do I tell him?
As far as I could read, it seems like he has about 8 requests. Outfit, hair style, the song, the dancing, the peeing, the dirty talk, etc etc. Perhaps tell him to pick the top few things he wants? Maybe just the outfit and dancing, and the dirty talk etc. I think that's the best compromise, just ask him to narrow it down! :)
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OMG, long-ass e-mails like that annoy the fuck outta me. LOL. I agree with Undercoverloverx. Tell him to pick the top few things he wants. I hope he's not expecting to pay some bullshit amount like $20 for all of that.
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I'd ask for no less then $500 for this request and have him pay you via the "webcam booking" option so you can choose the amount of credits and he can accept it. It sounds like he wants a long session but the outfits, pee, dirty talk is extras in my book.
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I would go back and tell him that one purchase would be equal to you dressing up in a skimpy outfit that you already have, doing the Hannah Montana thing with dirty talk and twerking. No anal, no pee and definitely no piggy noises- those are worth another 2 or 3 on their own.
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Slutty teen makeup! Found my new product line! Dibs!
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Make the video, charge double for it PLUS what the average cost of 2 videos in your store is. Lol that's what I'd do. But mostly when I get a request from dickweeds like this that send a movie script, I refuse because it is too much for me, without a cameraman and an editor, like really bud?
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Get paid BEFORE you make the video. Always.
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Everyone here has given some great advice but I'd like to point out one more thing that I don't think has been touched on yet: do you think you're ever going to be able to re-sell this video? Any one of the... flavors in this video would be resellable on its own but is any other guy going to be able to stay hard while watching "Hannah-fucking-Montana" making pig noises and all that? Maybe some could, but are they going to find you, find that video and pay for it?
Your prices may already assume exclusivity and if that's the case this is a moot point but if your customs are priced to re-sell it may be worth thinking about.
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I would get him to pay via the tipping option or at least pay a minimum of 50% up front via the tipping system. Webcam bookings can be refunded by AW days or even weeks down the line, tips are not refundable ;). If you are happy to do I would just charge big or as already said get him to cut it down, maybe ask him what he thinks it's worth? He might suprise you then again if he comes back with a really stupid amount I would get rid lol, block him and move on :)
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Originally Posted by
kortneykay
I'd ask for no less then $500 for this request and have him pay you via the "webcam booking" option so you can choose the amount of credits and he can accept it. It sounds like he wants a long session but the outfits, pee, dirty talk is extras in my book.
Re: Custom video - what do I tell him?
I would offer to make it a series. Indulge his first request and end the first video where the 2nd video might start, sort of like how the news outlets do their teasers as they head off to a commercial break. Leave him hanging so he has to buy the next one to find out the rest of the story. Each subsequent video starts where the last one left off.
Tell him you would like to indulge his every fantasy and are willing and able to meet his requests but due to bandwidth restraints you are only able to fit so much in one video sequence. Give him a video size number or bandwidth number.
Re: Custom video - what do I tell him?
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Originally Posted by
Procrasturbator
Everyone here has given some great advice but I'd like to point out one more thing that I don't think has been touched on yet: do you think you're ever going to be able to re-sell this video? Any one of the... flavors in this video would be resellable on its own but is any other guy going to be able to stay hard while watching "Hannah-fucking-Montana" making pig noises and all that? Maybe some could, but are they going to find you, find that video and pay for it?
Your prices may already assume exclusivity and if that's the case this is a moot point but if your customs are priced to re-sell it may be worth thinking about.
Personally, I would try to make it so that those segments could be broken apart into separate clips that you could sale to others. It may mean overshooting some segments to get the need minutes but if you can sell those parts as individual clips... the HM hair, HM twerking, HM peeing, Hm Me So Horny, HM Pig Noises, etc... $$ cha ching.. Then you could always post the full video for sale just in case someone else needs to scratch that itch. Maybe even post a BTS version especially if you have any bloopers. Milk it for all you can get if you go to that much trouble.
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I wouldn't shoot it since everyone knows Hannah Montana was a minor. Anytime I see the word teen in a custom request I decline it. If you do shoot it I would charge him a lot since that is a ton of requests he wants in the video.
Why does a grown ass man even know who Hannah Montana is?
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I agree, this one might be tough to resell, so I would def make it exclusive rates.
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[shrug] i hate the script guys...i ALWAYS charge extra because scripted vids are VERY exclusive to the buyer. In your situation with his half price crap... maybe for yourself priceout whats more expensive or that would be more difficult to do until the vid sits at the price he wants to pay. Don;t shirt yourself but don't say no to $ either if he's willing to pay for whats FAIR. Like cut out acts over just time [ since it no less stressful trying to cram a whole script of ideas into a shorter length] so like maybe say you cant do pee for that price or that you wont be stretching or toying your ass in that case. Make it worth it for YOU. OR suggest doing it in two parts. Part 1 is strip/piss etc part 2 is the ass toy stretching. Then ask him which part he wants for the price hes offering =)
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Thanks so much for all of your responses!
I decided in the end to go with the most popular response here, which was to say "You have 9 requests, if you narrow it down to 3 I can do it at normal price." That seemed to be the most simple and effective way of getting it across to him. I also mentioned the series of videos idea to him as that would be easier for him to not have to spend loads of money at once and obviously great for me as it means I get 3 or 4 times the money. My prices already are exclusive, yes :)
Here's the email I sent to him:
Hi again,
Well I count 9 specific requests (outfit, hair, makeup, location, dancing/twerking, the very specific dirty talk, the watersports, the anal, the piggy noises) so if you wanted to narrow the video down to just 3 of these requests, I wouldn't have to charge extra.
Another option is a 2-4 part series of videos. For example, 1 video with the dancing and the dirty talk about just coming off stage, another video with the watersports and more dirty talk and then the last video with the anal and the piggy noises. Might be easier for you this way as you could buy the videos as far apart as you liked so that it wasn't a big expense all at once?
Let me know if either option appeals to you.
Thanks,
*myname* x
I'm not optimistic as he seems to not want to spend a lot, but I haven't spent much time at all conversing with him about it or thinking about it so I won't be too pissed off if nothing comes of it. We'll see! I'll post again if he replies, of course. Thanks again for all your really useful responses!