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Newbie Hustle Progress Thread?
So I know this thread is older, but not very long ago (2 days, in fact) I was a lurker, scouring the depths of SW. What I realized was that the sheer number of replica posts beyond the beautifully put together 'Starting Place for Cam Girls' and the links in there was staggering. And I always wanted to know what was happening during that middle stage right after starting and before you felt, if not like you knew everything you need to know, like you were competent enough to figure out how to step up your game. But I feel like they were either simply not there, hidden in the mass of unhelpful threads, or very very specific (for which I'm thankful for, but I'm talking about the pratfalls and victories of a single camgirl).
I came across this:
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loveshooks
what would be awesome is if more chicas who are starting out now or still finding their footing report back as the months roll on (as chicas have done in the past) to update on their progress. Setting aside the part-time chicas who are busy pursuing other goals, like many have mentioned in this thread, not every full-time cam chica starts out banking. Many end up doing amazingly well though. The history of this forum is a testament to that.
and decided that this basically fit my description, and this comment got 36 thanks so there was interest, at least in '13. I'd be more than happy to do this type of thing, reporting back maybe once a week until I hit a plateau or it's just not useful to people, since my professors always told me that if you're wondering, everyone else in the room is also probably wondering that same thing.
If this sounds like something that would be helpful to anyone, let me know, and it can be saved for posterity. Otherwise, I can shut up and dearie me, I am verbose.
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Crap, I forgot to mention, just in case this affects whether or not people would find it useful:
I plan on camming 30h/wk, as well as two side gigs that collectively take up roughly 25h/wk. I have a schedule and a budget, so I'm not a "cam when I feel like it" kinda gal. I'm working primarily SM but I've signed up on AW, NF, and MFC although I'm pretty sure I won't sprinkle those in until at least after my new girl status is gone or the bugs in SM drive me COMPLETELY insane. I'm doing okay thus far, so I'm not exactly what loveshooks was talking about, but I figured a progress report type thread might be helpful anyways?
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I love this idea!!! :) I'm definitely in! I am a newbie that is exclusively on SM (for the moment...) Right now I am working part time, but am putting in 2 weeks for my day job on monday, so that I can cam full time! :) I have been doing well the first 2 weeks, even though my computer I am forced to use right now is severely lacking, and is unable to stream HD :( I think that A thread like this would be very helpful for me!!! Thanks for the idea! ;D
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Great! I've gotten enough responses that I've decided this would be helpful, so I'll just start with some more background on me.
1. HOURS/NICHE
I'm Asian, so this affects my client base (WA, CA, TX) - there's a thread in here somewhere which shows the top searched keywords in Pornhub by state and it's surprisingly accurate - which in turn affects my hours and my 'niche'.
- I've found that my average guy is an Asian in his 20s or maybe 30s. These are the ones I'm appealing to as well, as I've found that they're a) the most respectful and b) looking for lots of easy vanilla or conversation. For example yesterday a guy talked to me about shared interests for almost an HOUR before I started running out of things to say so I turned the conversation to my toys and he was cut off before he could even cum. And he didn't even complain about it. He was smart, liberal, respectful, sweet, and the ideal customer. This is not unusual. It's awesome.
- I thought that I'd be doing more kink and fetish stuff but at my rates, I'm making plenty and find that cumming as often as I do (my niche is really kind of geisha/wifey - good conversation, smart, pretty geeky, and bubbly but on the sexual side, I'm insanely multiorgasmic and I do try to keep it as authentic as possible so I get TIRED) I don't need to as of yet. What I'll say is that authenticity SELLS. I'd rather do higher rates and not drag things out - a luxury as I'm so multi-orgasmic - because only one guy out of so many have quit chat before I just collapsed around the 30-40 min mark even if they came 20 mins before. Very few of at least my base are going to stop a girl when she seems to be enjoying herself so much. I drag it out a bit more because mostly it's my face they can see so while they're aroused, it'll take them a bit more time and give them a better orgasm and me better ratings.
- My hours are tailored around the West Coast sleep and pre-work schedule.
(Note: This obviously works for me. I do tailor my niche around my client base and who I prefer in my client base, so my half-Korean cultural background, knowledge about anime, cars, music (production), games, and coding/the tech industry goes a LONG way. It will obviously differ for you, unless your target audience is exactly the same.)
2. RATES/SHOWS
I'm on SM and my rates are $5.99/$7.99. I was in paid for 40% of the time the first day, and had way more premium so I was making [editttt] where I was in exclusive 50% of my online time so I made around (EDIT). I'm planning on tweaking this so that I'm making somewhere around [edittt] and working 20% of my online time and then stepping up my game so I can raise my rates even more.
***I have NO idea what the average % of total time online is in paid chat is. If y'all would let me know yours, that'd be awesome.***
I am NEVER short with people in my chat. So far I haven't gotten anyone worthy of a ban, just annoying and making requests and when I say sweetly that I don't get nude or even take off my robe or take requests in free, they'll usually leave. I have my fake info (where I live, etc.) queued up so I don't have to tell anyone to fuck off. I'm SUCH a misanthrope IRL but on SM, I say hello to almost everyone, I giggle like I'm a half-wit, and thank every asshole who compliments me just like a 14 year old girl when her crush tells her she's cute. This is because the guys fall in love with that sweet personality, and these are the guys who will just sit there in chat and shoot the shit, and berate the guys who they see as abusing me. I'm encouraging EVERY guy who seems sweet with good conversation, but I'm trying to keep up with everyone, which makes the good guys take me to exclusive, so I'm sweet but busy, and unable to give any one guy my full attention. I've found that while it's slow going at first (20 mins waiting in the beginning), I'll IMMEDIATELY be taken out of one show to another. I've been unsure how much of my post-coital reverie I should show in free chat, but thus far, the happy, giggly, sweaty, panting actually makes guys want to experience what happened for the guy before. (This may or may not work with your show, I was just hesitant because I AM doing the wifey/girlfriend experience thing, and a lot of these guys are relatively more jealous because they see me as a girl they like rather than some objectified camwhore or cam model providing a kink service.)
Sorry for the length, and if I've left anything out, I had more to say yesterday but I've forgotten it all. Let me know if there is anything you'd like to know.
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I love this! I'm seeing all these "2,000 a week challenge" and "1000 a week challenge" and even the $500 one and I'm over here overwhelmed by all of it! I will say though, I started on September 25th on Chaturbate. Yesterday (30th) was the last day of the pay period and I manages to get a total of $227.10 total. I feel like that is amazing because I still barely know what I'm doing. :) I'm personally proud of my self even if that's not much to other people. I have a full time job in fast food already so I don't even have many hours to devote to camming like I'd like to. My goal is to make camming a viable full time job. I enjoy it so I'll gladly put in the time and effort as soon as I understand what the do's and don'ts are. I've been reading as much as I can, lurking a lot, watching the really good ones on my site (the top row women) and trying to perfect my shows. I'm on Chaturbate. I took the time to read the TOS (after asking on here about a certain red monster... someone linked me so I read it word-for-word) I'm really going to try. :) I have a SM account but I 'understand' CB so I want to stick with that for right now. So yea, I'm in!
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^^I feel you on the not knowing what your doing, I don't either and its all so overwhelming. Its my first week of really getting into all this but Ive signed up to several sugar daddy sites and am looking into cam sites, I want to stay doing just fetish stuff or vanilla as much as possible, at least for now till I get the hang of things but am having a hard time finding sites for that. IDK only been a week tho like I said guess well see what happens.. I am a stripper and know all about that tho..
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<<<Not a newbie, but just wanted to welcome everyone and to say you can PM me for site recommendations. To ava$, have you considered a fetish c4s store as well?
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^^Nope, never even heard of it, thanks girl!
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ava$
^^I feel you on the not knowing what your doing, I don't either and its all so overwhelming. Its my first week of really getting into all this but Ive signed up to several sugar daddy sites and am looking into cam sites, I want to stay doing just fetish stuff or vanilla as much as possible, at least for now till I get the hang of things but am having a hard time finding sites for that. IDK only been a week tho like I said guess well see what happens.. I am a stripper and know all about that tho..
What I've seen as the consensus on SW was that it's DAMN hard to find a SD without offering sex. And if you're going to do so, you'll be a discount escort. Just go with escorting if that's what you're comfy doing was the general impression I got.
And given the boost with the new girl status, PERSONALLY I'm going to do as many hours as possible on one site, then when that runs out and it slows down, add in another site while maintaining my regulars at the first one. And so on and so on. Regulars + traffic boost from new girl status = $$$
If you wanna research fetishes, maybe get an account on FetLife? And then if you're near a major metropolis, do some recon at a dungeon, info for which you can find on FL.
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I'm just doing a quick check in. Today I made $104 even. I worked for right at 6 hours. I'm not complaining because at least half of that time was just me chatting up greys (guys with no tokens) because it was pretty dead. Maybe it wasn't dead for every body, but my room was a ghost town for a bit. I ended up promoting a grey to mod and he was super helpful and explained Token Keno to me... Ummmmm WINNING! That's all I'm saying! Best game ever LOL! The majority of my money was from the Keno game. :) So obviously that's a new part of my show from now on! For the week, I'm at $166.95 and I'm actually happy with that. (That's two days worth of work on Chaturbate) My personal goal is $500 so I have $333.05 remaining! I can do it!! Also, my amazing big tipping customer bought me a new laptop. The one I'm using belongs to my sister and she needs it tomorrow and I was talking to my custy about it, explaining that I wont be available until Sunday or Monday SOOOOOO he solved it by buying me a new laptop. HOLY GUACAMOLE!!!!! I don't even know what to say.. So far he has bought me a dildo, anal trainers (a set of butt plugs), giant bottle of lube, a DP dildo, the laptop, and some perfume. Have I told you how much I love my new job? Oh and by the way... I quit my shitty fast food job. I didn't quit to persue camming, I quit because my managers are fucking pricks......... So camming is going to have to work out for me. There's no other option.
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Just a quick question...at what point is a cam girl no longer considered a "newbie"?
I've been camming almost 3 months now but, I don't feel like a new girl.
I think I'm a bit of a smartass but the guys like it so I keep that up. Guys think I'm funny. I like to tease a lot and show off my bod with clothes on and working the camera. I love talking dirty and using my voice. I really use "eye" contact and try my best to emanate sexuality without being crass. I appeal to the very young (18-25) and over 50 guys and they are black/white/latin/brown from the US or Europe. Not so much my own age, (36), or my own race. I guess I'm good at the GFE thing because I have about 6 regulars that see me daily for over 30 minutes each in exclusive pvt in SM or true private in MFC. One guy keeps me for a good 2-3 hours! The problem though is that with these regulars I don't get a chance to build up a larger customer base especially on MFC but I shouldn't complain right? I'm very grateful for these men, and they are such amazing sweethearts. I guess my tip for getting regulars like this, (if that's what you want), is to be really genuine with them, treat them as if they are your husband/boyfriend and care about them, their day, their hobbies, their emotions and share your genuine interests as well. We'll see if it stays this way for me since I really am still young in the game of camming. Because of these regulars I have had a very steady income of 2-3 bills a day. I splitcam SM, MFC and XLovecam. Main site is SM.
Thanks for starting this awesome thread, IvyBunny!
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I got my pay out from Chaturbate today!!!!!!!! Yayyyyyy!!!!
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I attempted a Skype and ugh, the guy was such a nasty perv who played lots of games…
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Interesting thread, SM newbie today I logged on for 3 hrs made 91$ been on Lj fro 9 months doing decent there considering its Lj
I'm 20 year old Latina with Egyptian roots which gets me a load of "what's ur ethnicity" questions all days..lol
I'm mainly fetish in my profile pics and description but I get more non fetish.. Well aren't most of these guys a lil fetisheven the vanilla guys lol hoping to build up my fetish guys on SM I have quite a few regulars built up as fetish on Lj which I'm happy about I would like to have mostly fetish customers once I'm more accomplished webcam girl on the web SSm and hoping to add cams which I will eventually be splitting all three once I familiarize myself with all the sites first
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Thought I would sign in with an update, since the pay period for this week on SM is ending in 20 minutes :) This past week has been really great, especially since I still am at my day job, so I'm only on very limited hours. I was on 16 hours this past week and brought in a little over $400. The last $200 was all made last night in about 2 hours. :) IT was a great night last night!!! I have a couple of custys who come back every day that I'm on, and every time I see their name I can count on an exclusive popping up soon after.
I really have been liking the fetish custys that come in!! WOW, talk about easy money. My easiest one so far has been sucking on a heel, and showing him my feet. That's it. $30 later, we were both happy! I really want some more experience with role play and CEI/JOI.
I bought a new computer yesterday, so I was FINALLY able to stream in HD! I tried to use the encoder, but it was pain in the ass- so I'm streaming from SM's HD-High setting. It really makes a huge difference going from non-HD to HD. Like I said, on for 2 hours last night and made a little over $200. Then I signed on this morning, and had an email from SM Support telling me that I got Gold Shows/TV Broadcasting enabled :) Not sure how I feel about the Gold shows yet, but I know I definitely won't be going under $1 a minute (which is still such a deal) I highly doubt that I will do gold shows to the point where I'm not really taking privates or exclusives. I enjoy the privates so much more!
I've been wearing different outfits/hairstyles ,etc. every night so far- and it's really been working for me. If I want a lot of daddy/telling me what to do custys, I throw my hair in some pigtails, don a graphic tshirt, and suck on a lollipop.
I'm really happy right now, even on the slow nights- I get to have great conversation, make some money, build some new regulars and all from the comfort of my bedroom.
Eventually, I'll branch out to other sites- but want to master the art of camming more, before I multi-task more than one.
How did everyone else's week go??
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Not a newbie but wanted to say hi and welcome you to the forum. I'm around if you have questions or need any help.
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ava$
^^Nope, never even heard of it, thanks girl!
http://clips4sale.com/list/en/page/openastudio
That's the link to join, as well as the rules and stuff. I'm too hung over to find it now, but there's a c4s thread in industry insight. Just so you know, with c4s, you do have to have a utility bill in your name to join.
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SweetJulia
http://clips4sale.com/list/en/page/openastudio
That's the link to join, as well as the rules and stuff. I'm too hung over to find it now, but there's a c4s thread in industry insight. Just so you know, with c4s, you do have to have a utility bill in your name to join.
thanks! Why do they do that utility bill thing? IDK about them knowing where I live sounds kinda creepy..
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SweetJulia
http://clips4sale.com/list/en/page/openastudio
That's the link to join, as well as the rules and stuff. I'm too hung over to find it now, but there's a c4s thread in industry insight. Just so you know, with c4s, you do have to have a utility bill in your name to join.
thanks! Why do they do that utility bill thing? IDK about them knowing where I live sounds kinda creepy..
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ava$
thanks! Why do they do that utility bill thing? IDK about them knowing where I live sounds kinda creepy..
Proof of residence/identity. Let's be real here--this industry is full of people who are under age or using a fake ID. Harder to fake a utility bill.
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UPDATE:
So I was deathly ill for two weeks and didn't cam. *GASP* I know, I know. Very irresponsible bunny. Luckily, my regulars came back anyways, and I've been branching out the niche because HOT DAMN IS IT SLOW IN STREAMATE. More assholes - I posted in Camming Sucks thread about some dick who demanded in all caps every 30 seconds that I cum/squirt. In premium. Which I did. But after 20 times, even the other guys were like, shit, she's a lady, not a fucking orgasm gumball machine, leave her alone. - Wayyy fewer sweeties. I think it's because I changed the look. And music, oddly.
My problem now is that dear sweet bageezus are there a ton of fetishes that I have to research. I've been on FetLife, but it's just not quite substantial enough info for someone like me who wants all the information, densely packed so I can be in and out.
Ain't nobody got time to read this shit all fuckin' day.
Luckily I live in a metropolis and I'm a newb kinkster anyway so I can just go to some local dungeon for some kink parties that my friends and dates have been suggesting I go to anyways. I don't have experience being a pro domme and I'm not a lifestyler, just a "when the clothes come off, the gloves come on, shut up and bend over" kinda top, so the language of it all needs brushing up.
Surprisingly, I'm finding a lot of threads SUGGESTING that we research fetishes without giving actual resources (my guess is that they're in abundance on this site, the threads just haven't been tagged properly, or I'm just complete shite at using the search engine.). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Without belaboring the point, I will say that I thoroughly enjoyed branching out. Of course, I LOVE my regulars - techy 20-30 something Asian dudes - because a) they're sweet and won't hassle me b) they're not cheap and constantly bitching about the price, they know I'm worth it and will make my time in free chat easier by defending my prices and c) we have so much in common. But the fetish stuff? It's interesting, at least for now, and I'm not making myself ill by pounding that pussy to oblivion. Because the rp customers know I'm acting a scene for them, somehow the transparency in that makes for a much more honest experience where I don't have to pretend to enjoy, or rather, struggle to actually enjoy what's going on. Honestly, it's kind of being like the character in a RPG. I don't hate it. Plus, for a wifey type of girl IRL, it is SURPRISINGLY natural for me to bitch on my subs.
Perhaps I have rage issues, but this shit be better than therapy. Also, therapy doesn't send you thigh high latex boots.
Maybe most interesting to note is that right before I went on my 2 week break, I did a $1.00/$2.00 price hike. When it was so slow when I came back, I thought for sure it was because of this. Because I was trying to make my goal for the night, I did a 4.5 hour shift, and was accosted by the "CUM NAOOOO" guy for the last half hour of it. 25 orgasms and 4.5 hours in, I was nearly crying from exhaustion and frustration. There was some bug that made my flash crash every time I clicked on the chat so I couldn't kick or ban the assholes who abused the 30 second rule, and so I felt particularly taken advantage of, over and over again, and I have too much self-respect not to let that shit PISS ME OFF. So I was expecting the night to be kind of a disaster in terms of my hourly rate.
Even being sick, not being able to ban, and doing a huge price jump all at once (I realize now I should have done this slowly with small increments every few days or every week), I made almost 25% more an hour than my next best night. And almost double what I made hourly my first night.
Lesson? If you're going to bump your prices that high (I bumped it by a dollar each once before this as well), do it quickly. Before your regulars get used to your prices and they have time to get used to it. Not that you should, you should probably aim high right at the beginning.
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I've been camming for two years and Streamate has made me feel like a newbie the past few months. We could all learn a thing or two if we go back to the basics and note our progress. :)
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So I thought I'd check in. I hope to god this is helping someone, since these take forever to write and I could be working instead.
I've decided that as much as I like doing the GFE and the practice it gives me for one day maybe doing MFC (I have to do more research on how much the best girls get there, because it might not be worth the kind of work that goes into that kind of work), I want to branch out and try other things. Because fuck complacency.
I always forget about this from when I first started researching this, but shout out to Curvy Winona for this massive awesome library of the best of SW. I thought I'd share the love for my fellow newbs<3
As it hasn't been as hard to build up a regular base, I figured my next moves would be:
- Step up Twitter game
- Reconsider the Amazon wishlist and if not, post links for giftcards to VS, Amazon, and Babeland if they have it.
- Work on referral/affiliates for SM once I have enough of a base on Twitter/social media
- Try splitcamming and raising my rates to a point where I'd be working 50% of the time regardless. (Like I said, I get exhausted, but even my best reg cussed out a complainer who said I was the most expensive girl on the site, "That's why I work for Google. We need deep pockets to afford you but it's worth it. :)" So I know my regs are happy to.)
- Figure out how to go indy
My hourly rate has been steadily climbing by a few dollars each time I've cammed. I'd say that so far, really the only thing I do that's actually distinct - to be fair, I haven't taken the plunge to watch a model's paid show on SM, just done a lot of lurking in MFC for research - is that I give my 100% as long as a guy isn't being a barrel of dicks. I actually do REAL sub sessions as long as the dom knows what he's doing - I'm a sub switch in real life - which is both physically and mentally draining but FUCKING AWESOME. Seriously. I'd go to kink parties to do this shit for free. I'm guessing I'll burn out and stop doing this at some point, but I figure I'm doing okay right now and I'm afraid that this is the reason.
I'm tired of constantly pounding the pussy because it's affected my personal sex life - there's a guy I'm seeing and like I've told him, his dick is fucking magical, last few times it hasn't been that PERFECT fucking fit.
To this end, I'm limiting privates to a vibrator show as soon as I get one with no goddamn Hitachi. Until then, I'm considering a beautiful agony show in private, but I'd still be doing penetration and inevitably going to town because I chase dem big ohzzz.
Living in a big city, I've decided I'm going to wear sunglasses EVERYWHERE or hat in the winter because I got what I'm pretty sure was my first custie spotting me on the street and following me home. Post about it here.
The thing I'm proudest of is that literally EVERYTHING is inspiring me in terms of creative ways to promote and for potential content for clips. Especially because for a tech person (I'm a developer for my vanilla job) I'm a motherfucking ludite and didn't get Twitter, Instagram, or Snapchat until very recently. I HATE IT. I keep a notebook on my person at all times to write them down.
Alright, girlies. I'm tired and out.
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I've been camming for about 6 months so I guess I'm not a newb but I did have to sort through countless useless sites before I found my perfect match. I did try streamate for a couple months but got way too tired of fucking myself. And ended up pissing off the fiancé. Lol. I was also super bored and pissed off at the end of each day from having to take a smile the whole time. Now I'm on mfc and loving it. It may be harder work since I'm moving around a lot and dancing, but it's more entertaining and better for my health, the guys on there actually do talk back when you get find your groove for it and genuinely are there to get to know people. I've been on mfc for 2-3 months now and still get those slow days where I'll make barely $20 in a couple hours but when it's good it's really good on there. My highest single tip so far is 3075 tokens so I can't wait to see what whales the future brings. Also, I usually never turn my privates and groups on unless someone asks about it and that's when I tell them they need to get me naked first (via the countdown). It's working out fantastically and my sanity thanks me for it. Mfc is truly the best if you do your research and put forth the effort. Oh ya, my main client base is filled with entrepreneurs, stoners, artists, and cynical comedic types of all ages. I'm pretty sure your regulars really reflect your own personality, at least on mfc where your entire room is built upon it. Anyway good luck new girls and don't be afraid to try out token sites they don't actually bite as hard as most ladies here try to lead on.
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I've been camming for about 6 months so I guess I'm not a newb but I did have to sort through countless useless sites before I found my perfect match. I did try streamate for a couple months but got way too tired of fucking myself. And ended up pissing off the fiancé. Lol. I was also super bored and pissed off at the end of each day from having to take a smile the whole time. Now I'm on mfc and loving it. It may be harder work since I'm moving around a lot and dancing, but it's more entertaining and better for my health, the guys on there actually do talk back when you get find your groove for it and genuinely are there to get to know people. I've been on mfc for 2-3 months now and still get those slow days where I'll make barely $20 in a couple hours but when it's good it's really good on there. My highest single tip so far is 3075 tokens so I can't wait to see what whales the future brings. Also, I usually never turn my privates and groups on unless someone asks about it and that's when I tell them they need to get me naked first (via the countdown). It's working out fantastically and my sanity thanks me for it. Mfc is truly the best if you do your research and put forth the effort. Oh ya, my main client base is filled with entrepreneurs, stoners, artists, and cynical comedic types of all ages. I'm pretty sure your regulars really reflect your own personality, at least on mfc where your entire room is built upon it. Anyway good luck new girls and don't be afraid to try out token sites they don't actually bite as hard as most ladies here try to lead on.
Thank you for writing this, I just have to be more patient and stay on the token sites longer. I'm trying so hard to get away from SM!