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Re: Freewebcams.com Thread
Welcome to SW, Delish! Glad you found this forum and realized that FWC wasn't worth your time anymore. However, I'd be careful with internetchatmodels as well. I'm not familiar with them myself and I didn't look too far into it as I'm heading to bed at the moment, but just from a quick glance at their website I'm almost certain they're another studio. If you haven't already, I suggest you read this thread on how to sign up for sites directly and avoid studios: https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...avoid-studios)
Yes I know, you probably won't get hourly rates if you don't work through a studio but avoiding them will generally save you a lot of trouble in the long run. There are a few cam sites that offer hourly pay directly through the site via promos (Cam4 is one, but you have to be new to their site). And there is one studio that I, and many others here can vouch for as being non-shady and awesome, which is Boleyn Models. So while there are exceptions to the rules, I would steer clear of other studios in general and anyone making hourly rate claims. There's one studio that's so bad that their name gets censored on here and the name is strangely similar to internetchatmodels so I would definitely look deeper into that one before working for them.
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Hi, and thanks very much for the info! I learned what non-physical studios were earlier today thanks to SW! Unfortunately this was after I signed up hah. I did try to get more info on internetchatmodels through my own research to no avail. I skimmed the thread on here though. If the response/approval email I receive, as well as the main model login pages & setup, aren't to my liking, I might not even start and just move on.
I am not familiar with Cam4 so I'm eager to check 'em out. It'll be hard to go back to non-hourly sites after being on two, but I think you're right that avoiding that will serve me best in the long haul. Given my current living situation, I can't stream as many hours as I'd like, or what time of night I'd like, which is why I was working those sites.
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DelishIrish
Hi, and thanks very much for the info! I learned what non-physical studios were earlier today thanks to SW! Unfortunately this was after I signed up hah. I did try to get more info on internetchatmodels through my own research to no avail. I skimmed the thread on here though. If the response/approval email I receive, as well as the main model login pages & setup, aren't to my liking, I might not even start and just move on.
I am not familiar with Cam4 so I'm eager to check 'em out. It'll be hard to go back to non-hourly sites after being on two, but I think you're right that avoiding that will serve me best in the long haul. Given my current living situation, I can't stream as many hours as I'd like, or what time of night I'd like, which is why I was working those sites.
When it comes to cam sites, if it is a studio you're not usually locked in until you actually stream for the first time. Therefore, starting the application doesn't fuck you over. That said, it's not a good sign when Tsani doesn't know details about a site off the top of her head as she runs another sister forum and site that provide information about sites and the industry to other models.
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Welcome:) Sorry it's for such a lousy reason. I was going to sign up for this site and split it with Cam4 to be guaranteed 25 an hour When it was dead. I doubt I'll be able to live up to whatever standards they demand. Does anyone have it in text, since I'm sure it's in the sign up paperwork? Or was it just throw in along the way? I was so excited to see a model owned site at first, but honestly, it seems so awful I'm not even going to sign up. To delish, DO NOT stream from the studio name. Make an independent account and stream from that. Welcome to SW, sorry it's not for a good reason. I found this site when I googled that a customer tried to charge back, to make sure it was them sucking, not the two hour cam show, complete with script, I just got done with. Instead of a thank you at the end, I got "I'm gonna get my money back" cuz he thought pay by the minute meant he'd only be charged for one minute. Well, I got the whole 300, I'm just pissed his wife probably didn't find out, cuz he was So worried about that. Anyways, I so wish this site actually Did what they claimed to. Or, at least, inform performers of rule changes as soon as they decided on it-cuz it got too expensive, the site didn't take off as quickly as hoped, etc.. Not getting a promised amount of money affects how many performers log in after finding out, and for how long. Yes, this sucks for you as a site, but being seen as dishonest, and making potential performers hesitant or (here, officially unwilling) hurts you much more as a site in the long run. For the record, I would have had a grand or two set aside to pay performers what they felt they were owed out of pocket to avoid getting a bad reputation in the long run. It really sucks, Cuz if they really paid 25 hourly on top of tips/privates, I'd be more willing to stay on when it was slow, advertise on social media, etc..
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Yeah, the concept of having a model go from $20/hr down to $0 is bananas to me. I've been camming a little less than 3 years, I know hourly pay in free chat isn't common, but it's like why can't you start lower? Decrease or increase based on model performance INFORMING MODEL OF ALL CONDITIONS & POSSIBILITIES when she/he is FIRST approved. Before camming, I worked for a corporation for 6 years, only to earn $9/hr (minimum wage here in MN is $7.25) so me personally, I'd be fine with $10/hr. Bring it down to $5, idc. But how do these sites intend to retain models starting off so high then taking it all away? Half of them don't care to I suppose...
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Did anyone else receive an email from Jane's Studio that says freewebcams is not paying hourly rates anymore effective starting today?
This is the email I received from Greg:
Just wanted to let you know that freewebcams has had new investors and
they have decided to stop paying hourly rates as of the end of the pay
period, which is 12:01 am Pacific (3:01am EST) Monday the 15th, so all
hours through this period will receive hourly rate.
I am wondering if just the girls working for this particular studio are no longer receiving an hourly rate or if the hourly has been abolished for
everyone working the site?
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Originally Posted by
shyoncam
Did anyone else receive an email from Jane's Studio that says freewebcams is not paying hourly rates anymore effective starting today?
This is the email I received from Greg:
Just wanted to let you know that freewebcams has had new investors and
they have decided to stop paying hourly rates as of the end of the pay
period, which is 12:01 am Pacific (3:01am EST) Monday the 15th, so all
hours through this period will receive hourly rate.
I am wondering if just the girls working for this particular studio are no longer receiving an hourly rate or if the hourly has been abolished for
everyone working the site?
Its cut off for every performer on the site they said. The new management thinks that no one should be paid an hourly wage. They have been paying it for the last 18 months, so Im guessing they are losing money paying it to so many performers. I believe the only ones still getting it are their contracted porn performers.
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DelishIrish
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Alright wow, certainly thanking the universe for bringing me here. Note that I have never worked for/with a studio, so THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JANE as I do not know her. I came to FWC by way of a current model referral, which is why (Tim approved) I have earned $20/hr since June 2015. I was never told the hourly was dependent on my tokens tipped, nor that I had to work a minimum number of hours. Fast forward to December 2015, two missed payments (that I haven't received to this day, totaling a lousy $75 because I was on vacation in Europe that month). I always expected payments Friday or Monday, but there was one time I didn't get my DD until Wednesday.
Now recently I was waiting for a larger check which I was afraid wouldn't come after not seeing it Friday night, so I emailed 3 of the 4 contacts provided. Nowhere on the main page does it say which of these four people handle what, or I would have only emailed Jose since learning he does payroll stuff from this thread.
Andrea & Chrissy got back to me, not Jose, and Andrea told me that my hourly was going away in two weeks because I wasn't "meeting requirements"
*Cough requirements I was never told about* She also seemed taken aback and was almost mocking me upon hearing I had been stiffed in December, which I was not used to. I have no reason to lie about $75, wtf? There is adequate proof--it can be seen in my damn time card log for christ's sake. Anyway, I emailed her back stating I will no longer be active on the site in response to my hourly disappearing. I do not deem FWC worthy of my time.
A little about me as model, I greet everyone who enters my room and am known as a more conversational model. I am not a deer in the headlights, and I have chatters consistently praising me for this. There are still a lot of non-Americans doing anal in free chat for a mere 1-5 tokens which doesn't even earn you a fkn dollar. The site didn't have enough ppl willing to pay reasonable rates, and unfortunately a lot of my regulars only tipped me once a month.
Wow this is long and I apologize. In summary, I AM SO GLAD I'M LEAVING. I have just applied for internetchatmodels (which I sadly haven't found any research on) claiming $8-11/hr, so it wouldn't be as bad losing compared to $20/hr. FWC should check themselves because if highly engaging and constantly teasing models like myself do not meet their standards, goddess help them. Most traffic = beggars imo.
Thanks to this thread for not making me regret letting Andrea know I am better off going elsewhere.
Thats pretty much what they do. They change rules as they go and than try to enforce them after people have worked. The no token no hourly rule came at the end of a week. They refused to pay any model who didnt earn tokens their hourly for that week. I told them they have a right to change rules, but performers should be given at least a weeks notice to read the new rules and prepare for them. I hope the new owner overhauls the site and makes it a better place for everyone.
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VelvetRose
Sometimes the guys have to click on a sound icon in the upper right corner of their screen. ;)
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Originally Posted by
shyoncam
Did anyone else receive an email from Jane's Studio that says freewebcams is not paying hourly rates anymore effective starting today?
This is the email I received from Greg:
Just wanted to let you know that freewebcams has had new investors and
they have decided to stop paying hourly rates as of the end of the pay
period, which is 12:01 am Pacific (3:01am EST) Monday the 15th, so all
hours through this period will receive hourly rate.
I am wondering if just the girls working for this particular studio are no longer receiving an hourly rate or if the hourly has been abolished for
everyone working the site?
Wooo look-guess no one's getting approved for hourly now if the whole program's going under in a month?
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Pleased to report I received everything I earned from hourly in my account today, even the money from December was included in this DD. Very happy lady here!
Moving right along to a new site.
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Jane's studio still hasn't paid me for my last two weeks of hourly and earnings before they cut hourly from everyone. Does anyone have some contact info. for Andrea and Chrissy with the site? Thanks!
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maryberries
Jane's studio still hasn't paid me for my last two weeks of hourly and earnings before they cut hourly from everyone. Does anyone have some contact info. for Andrea and Chrissy with the site? Thanks!
Here ya go sweets :)
[email protected]
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maryberries
Jane's studio still hasn't paid me for my last two weeks of hourly and earnings before they cut hourly from everyone. Does anyone have some contact info. for Andrea and Chrissy with the site? Thanks!
Everyone has been paid out. Hourly was cut off the 14th, after that you have to earn at least $100 to be paid out from them.
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No everyone has not been paid out. I haven't been paid yet either and for the same weeks feb 1 - 14th.
Jane you should track these payments for more details since they did not come to us. Also when you say hourly was cut on the 14th you mean February 14th right? because thats when we got the emails telling us, and the last time I was paid was the last week in January.
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Sorry to hear it. :/
I'm glad we have each other to warn about studios/sites like this.
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I have not been paid for January. Greg and Jane said they were going to pay me but they just ignore my emails.
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This is so beyond fucked up. I'm sorry you ladies have to deal with this mess.
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I have email addresses of [email protected] and [email protected] Good luck getting your payment, and getting away from these shady people.
I said this before, and I'll say it again:
Jane, I have a question. You had experience with FWC not paying you properly dating back to over a year ago when I was fucked over. Why is it that you've remained a studio with them, and taken on new models into your studio, if you knew that the site wasn't paying you consistently, and you are either unwilling or unable to pay the models yourself and deal with the studio payments as they come in?
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Y'all should've seen how impatient I was just waiting on my tax refund. Lol. I can't even imagine how FURIOUS I'd be having to wait as long as y'all have to receive cam site earnings. :( That's really fucked up. Something like that would result in me not even wanting to broadcast on there again. No cam girl should ever have to track down people to get the money she's earned. SMH.
I really feel for you ladies. I remember when, years ago, I cammed for a Webcams.com studio and was expecting a $100 payment that I NEVER got. It's awful feeling like you've worked for free.
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Particularly when her earnings are being held by a fellow camgirl.
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Luaa and shy, have you heard anything about your payments?
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Any news on your payments from Jane?
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space_cowgirl
Any news on your payments from Jane?
Jose from the site told me I am getting paid directly by them tomorrow. He said Jane did not pay models off and they are sending her to collections? He also said "this is 100% all her, we paid her all, technically stole...."
She then finally emailed me today saying Jose is paying me directly and I am no longer under her studio for reasons she can't discuss. I guess they cut ties of with her.
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I was also told they would pay me directly if Jane didn't pay, so it looks like that is what will happen. I got the same email that Jane sent Lulaa which says that I should contact the site for my money.
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I hope the site pays you both everything you are owed this week.
What a shame that a veteran cam model (Jane) ruined her reputation in the industry. I hope everyone has learned to thoroughly research the people you do business with.