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This is why our cut is only 35%
https://www.linkedin.com/company/acc...chnology-group
The vanilla employees of SM belong to Accretive Technology Group.
According to its LinkedIn profile, Accretive offers its employees "a competitive salary, 100% employer paid medical, vision and dental insurance, 401(k) with 50% match, subsidized transportation passes/parking, and a profit sharing program with no vesting period. Additional perks include: catered lunches, company paid trips to exotic locales, Bagel/Fruit Fridays, monthly team events, family picnics, holiday dinners/parties and more."
-_- there is no reason why the breadwinners (the cam models) can't keep at least 50%.
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Bagel/Fruit Fridays! That is so gonna be my Friday room topic.
I didn't mind the 35% cut...WHEN THERE WAS TRAFFIC.
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You would think they would have better employees with all of those damn benefits, shit. Atleast hire some competent support staff or give me a job as a vanilla employee for them, I can do much better as a support specialist.
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I wonder what would happen if a bunch of us walked into their office in Seattle and demanded a higher payout.
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luvnrockets
Bagel/Fruit Fridays! That is so gonna be my Friday room topic.
I didn't mind the 35% cut...WHEN THERE WAS TRAFFIC.
Haha, Fruit Fridays, LOL! Banana plz, BB?
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MiraMichele
Haha, Fruit Fridays, LOL! Banana plz, BB?
Juicing my peach all day!
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There are other sites that offer more than 50% but they don't have the kind of paying traffic that SM does.
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what kills me is that they offer 50% matching to 401ks. Most vanilla companies offer only 3%. We are funding their retirements on our backs !
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Benefits or not I would never settle for 35% . On SF I am making 50% plus 100% tips and I get to participate in large amounts of bonus opportunities. I like direct site relationships and cut out the studio middle man.
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With enough girls I bet we could have SM by the balls and threaten to leave all at once if we don't get a higher cut. Oh that fantasy gets me soooo wet.
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I dunno if I'm gonna get stoned for this but I'm actually glad they pay their employees well?
I would imagine that operating costs, covering cbs and the cammodels link/affiliate program have more to do with the low payout percentage than the salaries and benefits granted to 150 people. Taken in the context of free chat/private-based cam sites, sm actually pays out more than LJ, IMLive and cams, for example, and actually gives chicas the opportunity to earn 75% (for those who bring their own traffic). No one on sm who participates in the cammodels link program is capped at 35%. Quality traffic is the most important commodity there is in cams, that's where I suspect a fairly substantial percentage of cam chica earnings are directed.
Regarding the dip in traffic that has hit sm, I think that has a lot to do with the google smackdown on sm whitelabels, so again cutting salaries and benefits wouldn't have any impact on traffic quality.
don't get me wrong, there are legitimate beefs about sm. offhand I'm thinking of the bullshit virtual studio system, technical issues, what appears to be the most appalling model support of the planet...
Don't get me wrong, 35% is low and it would be awesome if the base payout rates on all the free chat sites would rise, I guess I'm just glad they're not participating in the corporate race to the bottom
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Hyori you hit the nail on the head.
If at least 80% of you SM ladies (all top earners included too) was to go on strike. I would guarantee they would raise the payout.
I go through occasional times where I want to go back to SM and try again but 35% makes me feel physically sick.
Without the girls they are nothing. I am shocked you haven't all grouped together for a strike, especially after seeing this.
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I already knew all that, they treat their employees VERY WELL!.. wish I worked for them.
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Originally Posted by
xoprincessremy
https://www.linkedin.com/company/acc...chnology-group
The vanilla employees of SM belong to Accretive Technology Group.
According to its LinkedIn profile, Accretive offers its employees "
a competitive salary, 100% employer paid medical, vision and dental insurance, 401(k) with 50% match, subsidized transportation passes/parking, and a profit sharing program with no vesting period. Additional perks include: catered lunches, company paid trips to exotic locales, Bagel/Fruit Fridays, monthly team events, family picnics, holiday dinners/parties and more."
-_- there is no reason why the breadwinners (the cam models) can't keep at least 50%.
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anonymous camgirl
I already knew all that, they treat their employees VERY WELL!.. wish I worked for them.
Me too. I wonder if they hire at home employees for customer support? I've been trying to find an at home side vanilla job for being an email or chat support person for a while now, but can't seem to get hired anywhere.
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If you think about it...it's kind of the same as being livestock. We make the milk to feed the masses while they profit and give their benefits, shares and revenues to the employees. Are they public? At least give us some shares, sheesh.
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I read a little about the company on Shawn's Linkedln. "Accretive Technology Group is a fast paced, technology centered company. For over a decade, ATG has provided high performance solutions to some of the internet's most most demanding customers."
This made me laugh, fast-paced, sure those minute men on cam are, and they are the most most demanding customers as well! haha.
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You know even livestock get housing and food.
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I'm not going to complain. I do well, I love my regulars, I love that I can work from home, make my own hours. I am grateful. I just think we deserve more than 35%.
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did you try that rat race rebellion site? you know on sm if you scroll down it lists the jobs they are hiring for.. REAL jobs.. not being a cam model.
ok I just checked on the site and now it's not there anymore.. hmmm..
Hey they are hiring for customer service reps for 17-18 bucks an hour.. wow!.. I only made 14 bucks an hour doing cam yesterday...LOL..... that would be a step up!
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Originally Posted by
MiraMichele
Me too. I wonder if they hire at home employees for customer support? I've been trying to find an at home side vanilla job for being an email or chat support person for a while now, but can't seem to get hired anywhere.
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anonymous camgirl
did you try that rat race rebellion site? you know on sm if you scroll down it lists the jobs they are hiring for.. REAL jobs.. not being a cam model.
ok I just checked on the site and now it's not there anymore.. hmmm..
Yea I go check out that site all the time. I've applied for all the text chat jobs they offer but they either haven't got back to me or I don't qualify. I've even applied to their survey sites and paid forum posts but everytime I try to take a survey they say my criteria doesn't qualify and the people from paid forum posting haven't accepted me yet, going to give up on this shit lol.
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It's upsetting to me that we can't renegotiate our contract. In most jobs, if you've been there for years, you can ask for a higher cut. Camgirls who have been there for a long time should be earning more than a base of 35%.
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I was skeptical that these benefits were as good as they sound until I saw their 4.6 rating on LinkedIn.
My guess is this is necessary to attract quality vanilla talent. Imagine if you work in payroll, customer service, IT, you like your job, want to stay but your spouse gets laid off and you find yourself looking for employment in a new city. Anyone in an interview will ask who is Accretive Technology Services, you'll need to explain & idk if things would move forward too much after that. Sounds like a good employer for their vanilla employees but it still needs to be worth the risk.
Not saying it's fair or anything... But this is my guess.
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I certainly believe they can still offer their employees all of those great benefits whilst giving us models 50% but whatevs. We can all even the playing field by going indy, pimping the hell out of our CM link, and or raising our prices higher. I make the same amount(a bit more actually) on SM as I do on 50%+ sites because I raise my prices. I know I'll make up to $2.79 per min taking off my clothes on SM and I'll make the same on NF, etc. As for a strike I'm all for it but I keep forgetting that I'm in the porn business. We've been treated like scum ever since and unless we ALL walk away or do something about it we'll continue to be treated that way. Not too many bbs are willing to actually walk away though as they need to eat. Eventually I'll ween myself off of big box sites but until then, work smarter ladies.
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Don't forget, we are all contractors. The ability to strike comes with the luxury being an employee.
How contracting works is if the person offering the contract states terms of work that you find unacceptable then all the power to change that situation is in your hands because you decide who you will do work for.
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^Exactly. No one is forcing any cam model to choose Streamate to work on. That's all on you. That's what I love about this kind of work...I choose.