Do any of you date your more generous regular customers?
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Do any of you date your more generous regular customers?
I have always been upfront abt the 'my time is $$$$' factor. It cuts out the bs on both sides, Idk 'fuzzy expectations' bc that is where you get into trouble. I only had one serious taker once I made clear that I wouldn't meet them for free -- only one in 5yrs of dancing, which proves my point.
I would just politely tell them that however much I like & trust them, this is still a client-provider (can't think of another word besides 'provider' sry) relationship, so I need to be compensated for my OTC time as well as ITC. A date w/ them would still fall under 'work' for me. From there, if they haven't run screaming/pushed you off their lap/otherwise communicated a 'Fk that!' attitude, you can work out the finer details re: payment amt, b4 vs after, etc.
It got messy. 2 regs who paid well but eventually excuses were made about money being paid and how much etc, they could see it wasn't going any further and they wanted more...
You will prob do it and get sick of the maintenance that comes along with it... I did.
The one regular I had who was serious about it, it came up because he wanted to leave the club to get dinner, and I giggled like a retard and said "Oh but I have to pay my electric bill tomorrow" and he pulled out a wad of cash and said "How much is it, I'll pay for it, let's go". I guess what I said (which was only meant as a polite brush off) let him know that I needed to be compensated.
I agree with Flick that it is probably going to turn into a giant headache.
The problem is that this can be rare. First, most of the customers who ask to see you OTC are asking because they want it to be a date and have no intention of paying. Then, of those that are willing to pay, many aren't just looking for dinner or anything PG -- maybe for the first date, sure, but certainly not for long. Or, they're willing to pay but a very small amount. So, that leave a small smidgen of customers who are going to fit your criteria. If the customers soliciting you for OTC aren't even offering to compensate you, it's very likely that they won't end up being worth your while.
It's certainly worth a shot to, next time they ask about meeting you OTC, mention how busy you are and how you would love to spend more time with them if they could take care of you/make it worth your while/some other obvious euphemism. Then see what they say and go from there.
Just keep in mind that going OTC is often a surefire way of speeding up how quickly the money spent ITC dries up. Not always, of course, but once many customers get you OTC, they see no reason to spend money on you in the confines and rules of the club.
It's always :confused: me as well, on one lvl -- like stated ^^^^. OTC is, by definition, outside the (relative) safety of our workplace. That right there should be worth a helluva lot of $$$. OTOH, it doesn't surprise me in the least that these jerkoffs don't want to pay -- look at the majority of the guys who are asking. :no:
This. IME, once you go OTC with a customer, you change the nature of the "relationship" (the term used very loosely, lol). They are no longer satisfied with seeing you ITC and wish to do most of their spending on you outside the club. You can't go back and un-ring the bell once this happens. Whether it is a p4p sex arrangement or something more PG, the expectations are raised once the OTC barrier is breached.
I've seen a lot of these non-p4p OTC situations get messy quickly over the years. Most of these guys are looking for sex, even the ones who initially claim otherwise. And some of the guys who aren't simply trying to get into your pants are even worse, since they are often the lonely, emotional guys looking to fill some void. Now I've seen some dancers do very well over the years in milking both these types OTC without giving either of them what they ultimately wanted, but it required fairly sophisticated stringalong games.
Idk Miss. This is just one customer's opinion fwiw, but if you neither interested in taking cash for sex nor have a good stringalong game ready to keep these guys on the hook for some period of time, then it may be in your best interest to just take their money ITC for as long as you can. But if you simply must give it a whirl, you may want to start with the most affluent of the bunch as they will be the ones who will get the least emotional about the money.
I won't opine any further in the interest of leaving things open for other ladies to share their thoughts, but I will wish you good luck!