Re: Please, need advice?!
What country are you in? If you're in the U.S., you have to give them your real info just like any other job. They need your real name, SSN, DOB, etc., and they need to see your ID. Clubs in the U.S. are strict about that. They won't hire you unless they see your ID and SS card.
If you are going to be a doctor in the future, you working at a club might show up on your background, but you can just say you waitressed at the club.
And no, they are not going to harass your phone if you stop showing up. So many girls are coming and going all the time that management usually doesn't care either way if you're leaving and never returning. The only reason management would be calling you is if they are desperate for girls, usually meaning that their club is lacking business.
Re: Please, need advice?!
Not to sound like a total bitch but you are so afraid of getting caught doing something legal then stripping might not be for you. Yes, you have to show your ID. They need to verify your age usually. They don't harass you on the phone. If your so worried about them calling you, give them a fake number. They rarely or ever call you. If you really worry they will know you, do what I do, travel out of state and then the chances of being caught is less. I have a very lucrative day job and stripping has not bite me in the ass.
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There are A LOT of threads on the subj of licencing(both for medical, teaching, etc & dancer licences in areas that require them). One of the most recent is on the first page of the Industry Insight section. Read thru that one & other threads on this subj to get an idea of what exactly you may be setting yourself up for.
As an aside, have you considered going to the military as a dr? I am getting into the Navy & a friend of mine is going in as a hospital corpsman. I have my adult history(dancing) for the last 5yrs or so & was upfront abt it. They said as long as there are no charges on my record associated w/ dancing, I'm pretty much golden since dancing is legal. A recruiter would be able to tell you more abt that, but just mentioning it as another possibility. Another friend of mine who I hadn't talked to in abt 2 yrs was a civilian medical student, & we caught up on Skype recently -- he is still doing his medical programme, but got a military scholarship (also Navy). So consider popping into your local recruiter's office & seeing what they have to say on the subj. There are also several other girls who are former military on this board that could help advise you along those lines.
Real info in the club -- as SK pointed out, they will need to see documents -- just like any vanilla job, any legit club will require proof of eligibility to work (so SS card) & proof of age (passport, drivers licence, etc). If you stop to think abt it, this is actually a good thing. If the club is letting the documents requirement slide, what else do you think they are letting slide? So yes, you will fill out an application & they will make a copy of your SS card & photo ID. the application will have your real name along w/ your work name, & it will go in a file w/ all the other files of ppl who work there. Including a contact phone number, even if it's just a burner phone (many girls keep burner phones strictly for work use) is also standard.
This is where it differs from the vanilla hiring process tho: most mgrs could honestly give a shit less abt learning your real name. They give even fewer shits abt where you live, bc good or bad, they have their hands full as it is taking care of the goings-on in the club.
There is a huge turnover rate in this industry, esp among first-time dancers. Many, many, many girls don't make it to the 6mo mark, for any number of reasons. Basically, beyond the legal requirements, no one is going to care whether you call yourself Mandy, Diamond or the Queen of England. So your real name + stage name will both be on the paperwork, but most dancers just go by their work names while at work or otherwise in the company of fellow club workers, & that's SOP.
Read thru the stickies at the top of this board, & in Stripping General. There is a lot of info on creating your 'work persona' including the 'back story' that you will have ready for customers & club workers alike. Run a search on 'audition experience' or 'hiring process'.
Re: Please, need advice?!
Trust me, you wouldn't want to work at a club that doesn't ask for id. I worked at one in PA one night with a friend, the private dance booths had walmart trashcans in them full of used condoms :(
Re: Please, need advice?!
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SweetJulia
Trust me, you wouldn't want to work at a club that doesn't ask for id. I worked at one in PA one night with a friend, the private dance booths had walmart trashcans in them full of used condoms :(
Yeah I'd run a mile if a club didn't ask for ID.
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From a legal standpoint, all 'employers' are required to verify the legal work status of new 'employees'. Thus every 'respectable' club is going to require that you show ID with real name, real address, SS# etc. to prove you are a US citizen / permanent resident and legally able to work. This is an outgrowth of post-9/11 anti-terrorism laws.
Also, from a legal standpoint, all businesses are now required to issue 1099 forms to the IRS reporting the total amount of money which was paid to all other businesses ( i.e. independent contractor dancers ) if total annual payments exceed $600. That 1099 tax form creates an official paper trail of person A, address B, SS# 123 having received a total of X thousand dollars in payments during 2014 from business Y. That 1099 tax form is accessible after the fact by state professional licensing agencies, by prospective future employers etc. and could lead to 'awkward' questions.
In the way of full disclosure, having a 1099 proving that you worked in the adult industry turn up later cannot prevent your state professional licensing agency from issuing your license, since exotic dancing is a legal business activity. However, the existence of that 1099 could potentially guarantee that your resume will be 'lost' by every religious affiliated hospital, every 'upscale' suburban partnership practice, etc. However, state prison hospitals, inner city clinics, mines and oil fields also need doctors, and could care less about the existence of that 1099.
About the only thing that could seriously 'derail' you medical career would be getting swept up in a ( bogus ) club bust ... which could result in a de-facto 'prostitution' or 'lewd conduct' or other sexually related misdemeanor charge on your criminal record.
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Honestly if you are that concerned do not strip. I have had police encounters & lots of drama in the time I was a dancer....Chances are it might be too risky for you, not from having old paperwork bite you in the behind, but having some sort of experience that sidetracks you from being a doctor (which is an admirable aim in life.)
I have known girls who give fake SSIs, but the photo ID has to match you b/c most strips clubs can lose their liquor license due to gov. ID violations. In terms of dollars and cents, the club is NOT going to accomodate your request to stay anonymous...they don't need problems with the law.
BTW you can strip in the Carribean or Guam & get around having paperwork that would pop up later...those clubs are very crazy though, shoot, the regions are just nuts compared to the main 48 states.
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^^^^ this is true of the US protectorates, but I wouldn't advise leaving the country just to dance if you are a first time dancer. Travel-dancing is expensive & unreliable, you don't want to compound that stress w/ foreign-travel expenses + the general stress of navigating the SC environment for the first time.
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I'm an RN and have worked at many clubs who checked my ID/address/phone number and even put me into their "dancer database." I've never had an issue come up with employment or getting said license. The most I ever got was a text/phone call asking if I could come in to work (and they usually paid me if they were desperate enough).
Just my experience for you.