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PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
I just had a customer tell me he purcahsed of video of one of my privates for 2.99!
First of all I didn't get paid for it.
Second it was a RECORDED PRIVATE SESSION that I had with another customer!
I DID NOT allow this and I cannot even SEE the video anywhere on my page, yet 4 customer confirmed it was true. It was in "my videos"? I don't even see a "my videos"?
I didn't get to set the price, and I had NO IDEA that streamate had access to my private shows or that I had no control over what they sold in it!!
whats going on!??!
the site link says its called : http://www.slutloadlive.com ???????
How can they record private sessions without my permission and post them on the internet without even paying me for it?
Who gets to monitor / watch my privates and post them ??
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
Hi! SM has authorization to sell, promote, etc your live feed because you agreed to it in the contract that you signed. You can contact model inquiry to ask that they remove you from future promotional material but that's all you can do. If you go to your cammodels link on your profile and see "my videos" customers can pay a fee to see your monthly recorded videos. There's nothing you can do about it unfortunately. The site you posted is a whitelabel from SM. It's an affiliate site with permission to sell, distribute, and promote you so you can get paid. It sucks that SM sells our videos and we don't get a cut but be sure to read your future contracts through and through before you sign them.
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
thanks for your quick reply, so will I have a huge library of videos eventually? Or do they delete and record a new video monthly?
Also when you say I can "opt out of future promotional material" does that mean they will stop posting more videos like this as well?
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
Yes, you have to email to SM support to remove you out of promotions. It may hurt your placement, though.
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
http://www.slutloadlive.com is another site of Streamate. Streamate is the parent site. They have a ton of sites. You are featured on all of them when you broadcast. That is what people are referring to when they say they are not blocked on all the sites when they do region geoblocking.
I do believe that the "my videos" tab is on our cammodels link (name.cammodels.com). It also appears on the other sites.. ex "http://www.freehotchat.tv/cam/name". I just double checked, I do believe that Streamate is the only site that does not show the video tab on the models profile. They sell the videos through this tab, you cannot delete it and you get no money for it either.
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I had NO IDEA that streamate had access to my private shows or that I had no control over what they sold in it!!
How did you not know about this? Why wouldn't they have access to your shows?
Side note, from now on keep in mind anything you say and/or do in private can be on the internet, and not just because someone recorded your room. The site has it all recorded. Be careful what you say or do in paid chat. You can try to loophole this by having copyright images, posters, music etc on in the background. I know that flirt4free would not allow models to have these things on cam for this reason (at least when I worked on that site years ago I don't know about now). Same thing goes for TV gold shows.
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I DID NOT allow this...
How can they record private sessions without my permission and post them on the internet without even paying me for it?
Yes you did allow it, because you signed a contract. Did you read your contract thoroughly before you signed up to the site? After I post this I'm going to see if I can find the contract.
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Who gets to monitor / watch my privates and post them ??
Streamate. The main site that owns all the other sites that are white labels/studios.
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How can they record private sessions without my permission and post them on the internet without even paying me for it?
Because they own everything you broadcast. I think that's one of the reasons sites get hairy when models split cam, or when models sell their privates they personally record.
What site are you camming on? Streamate not only has access to your privates they store all of them! They have every single show you have done recorded and saved. They have the right to do whatever they want with the footage. This is why models freak out when they find out that they are featured in pop up ads on the internet and so on.
EDIT: if you are not sure if a site is a white label site of Streamate in the future, open the site in question and Streamate. The front page should look the same less the site skin. You can also do the same with your profile link.
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
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illuminaughty
thanks for your quick reply, so will I have a huge library of videos eventually? Or do they delete and record a new video monthly?
Also when you say I can "opt out of future promotional material" does that mean they will stop posting more videos like this as well?
You may or may not have a huge library. You won't be able to see them anyway unless you create a customer account and click on your profile and subscribe to your own videos. I'm sure they update when they find a good feed, but keep the old ones? Opting out of promotional material simply means that they will not put your profile on the white labels, promote you outside of the site, etc. However, like Winona said, this will hurt your placement and will slow down traffic for you as you won't be on the other duplicate sites. They will continue to record your feed as often as they wish without your knowledge. What may help is to just be extremely repetitive in your shows. Basically, unless the guy has a fetish request that sm thinks is great to record, do the same things in each show. Like stand up, strip, tease, etc with each and every customer. I'm sure SM wouldn't want to sell the same positions, wording, etc as the guys will get bored of watching the same motions on your videos. I personally follow a similar script in all my shows unless they have a specific request.
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
That's good advice for all sites actually but just SM, thanks Kortney x
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
SM has been doing this for years. I found out about it back in 2010 I think and I did email SM and request that I not be recorded at that time and YES it did hurt my placement significantly. They told me the reason that they don't pay the models was because they charge such a small amount. Personally I want my 35 percent of any amount and so I said take me out. Now 4 plus years later I am usually on the bottom of the first page or top of the second and I can't seem to move up from there but I am ok with it.
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
That's why I don't show my face on cam anymore. It hasn't hurt my earnings in the least, and now I really don't care who sees just my body.
Sidebar: I was visiting a male friend I haven't seen in like a year yesterday who knows I cam.
He pulled out his phone and showed me xxx cam shows of various girls. I asked him if he paid for them, he tells me no, that his friend sends them to his inbox daily!! The only reason I'm not on his phone is because he likes skinny girls with big tits, so that's what his friend sends him.
I can only imagine how many of mine are passed around out there. There's prob. a large number of guys who buy our shows, then sell them. Of course, we all know that's happening.
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
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kortneykay
You may or may not have a huge library. You won't be able to see them anyway unless you create a customer account and click on your profile and subscribe to your own videos. I'm sure they update when they find a good feed, but keep the old ones? Opting out of promotional material simply means that they will not put your profile on the white labels, promote you outside of the site, etc. However, like Winona said, this will hurt your placement and will slow down traffic for you as you won't be on the other duplicate sites. They will continue to record your feed as often as they wish without your knowledge. What may help is to just be extremely repetitive in your shows. Basically, unless the guy has a fetish request that sm thinks is great to record, do the same things in each show. Like stand up, strip, tease, etc with each and every customer. I'm sure SM wouldn't want to sell the same positions, wording, etc as the guys will get bored of watching the same motions on your videos. I personally follow a similar script in all my shows unless they have a specific request.
This is a sort of collective answer.
thanks for all your help everyone, that is such BS.
I feel like its going to effect my earnings. Like some dude who is really horny who wants a show with me will just buy a 2.99 vid and jerk off to that. It is way cheaper than my per minute rate, they still get to see my penis (which is one of the biggest reasons they come to me) and they get ME.
That "clip" they pick may not even be a good representation of my actual show. It may even HINDER me in that way since if someone is buying a clip to see what a show with me would be like and they don't like what they see and how I carried myself or acted in the video they may move on!
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fatoldbroad
SM has been doing this for years. I found out about it back in 2010 I think and I did email SM and request that I not be recorded at that time and YES it did hurt my placement significantly. They told me the reason that they don't pay the models was because they charge such a small amount. Personally I want my 35 percent of any amount and so I said take me out. Now 4 plus years later I am usually on the bottom of the first page or top of the second and I can't seem to move up from there but I am ok with it.
Well that is really shitty since I am usually 1st or second placement in my category every time I sign on.
That is extremely funny that they say that, the last time I checked when I get the low price of $1 of gold streamate takes 65% of my dollar.
I understand they are offering a platform for us to make money with, but this is extremely disrespectful and it seems like they are totally taking advantage of me even more.
I could deal with making LESS THAN HALF OF MY PAY but now you are RECORDING my work, reselling it on MY PAGE with MY LIKENESS, you don't even give me a SAY in what is being sold and broadcast in the video, and THEN YOU DON'T EVEN PAY ME FOR IT!!!
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Glamourmilf
That's why I don't show my face on cam anymore. It hasn't hurt my earnings in the least, and now I really don't care who sees just my body.
Sidebar: I was visiting a male friend I haven't seen in like a year yesterday who knows I cam.
He pulled out his phone and showed me xxx cam shows of various girls. I asked him if he paid for them, he tells me no, that his friend sends them to his inbox daily!! The only reason I'm not on his phone is because he likes skinny girls with big tits, so that's what his friend sends him.
I can only imagine how many of mine are passed around out there. There's prob. a large number of guys who buy our shows, then sell them. Of course, we all know that's happening.
I wish I could do this but unfortunately my face is what makes me money more :(
Also that's just great. I can imagine since trans women are such a popular fetish how many of my shows are being spread around the internet without my knowledge :(
Edit: I didn't mean to insult you or anyone else glamour I know we are all a fetish that gets passed around. I was just having a moment.
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illuminaughty
This is a sort of collective answer.
thanks for all your help everyone, that is such BS.
I feel like its going to effect my earnings. Like some dude who is really horny who wants a show with me will just buy a 2.99 vid and jerk off to that. It is way cheaper than my per minute rate, they still get to see my penis (which is one of the biggest reasons they come to me) and they get ME.
That "clip" they pick may not even be a good representation of my actual show. It may even HINDER me in that way since if someone is buying a clip to see what a show with me would be like and they don't like what they see and how I carried myself or acted in the video they may move on!
NO.
If they are a cheapo member let them have their $3 video. Those are the same guys who have a $10 budget for a cam show and are done in under 3 minutes anyway. And who knows what that clip is. Whether you like the clip they have chosen for you or not, if a member is going to buy it because they like it so don't stress it. What if they like what they see in the clip and take you private next time?
Think about how many people have already taken you private. And why. You have many things to offer during your show, such as human interaction, different requests, repeat requests for costumers and so on. Guys are willing to pay you for shows AND THEY DO. If those videos were such an issue then half the girls on the site would be pissing themselves freaking out because lots of girls have them on their profiles. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE YOURSELF OR YOUR POTENTIAL. There is already FREE porn out there. They still come to us for a reason.
:)
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Originally Posted by
Glamourmilf
That's why I don't show my face on cam anymore. It hasn't hurt my earnings in the least, and now I really don't care who sees just my body.
Sidebar: I was visiting a male friend I haven't seen in like a year yesterday who knows I cam.
He pulled out his phone and showed me xxx cam shows of various girls. I asked him if he paid for them, he tells me no, that his friend sends them to his inbox daily!! The only reason I'm not on his phone is because he likes skinny girls with big tits, so that's what his friend sends him.
I can only imagine how many of mine are passed around out there. There's prob. a large number of guys who buy our shows, then sell them. Of course, we all know that's happening.
I wish I could do this but unfortunately my face is what makes me money more :(
Also that's just great. I can imagine since trans women are such a popular fetish how many of my shows are being spread around the internet without my knowledge :(
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
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Originally Posted by
illuminaughty
Well that is really shitty since I am usually 1st or second placement in my category every time I sign on.
That is extremely funny that they say that, the last time I checked when I get the low price of $1 of gold streamate takes 65% of my dollar.
I understand they are offering a platform for us to make money with, but this is extremely disrespectful and it seems like they are totally taking advantage of me even more.
I could deal with making LESS THAN HALF OF MY PAY but now you are RECORDING my work, reselling it on MY PAGE with MY LIKENESS, you don't even give me a SAY in what is being sold and broadcast in the video, and THEN YOU DON'T EVEN PAY ME FOR IT!!!
It sucks, but all of this is in the agreement we all had to agree to when we signed up.
The good part is, Streamate isn't the only site. So if you're unhappy with how they do things, you can work anywhere else you want! :)
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It is wonderful and strange to me that men never tire of new content from us. Thank goodness!
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
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Originally Posted by
fatoldbroad
SM has been doing this for years. I found out about it back in 2010 I think and I did email SM and request that I not be recorded at that time and YES it did hurt my placement significantly. They told me the reason that they don't pay the models was because they charge such a small amount. Personally I want my 35 percent of any amount and so I said take me out. Now 4 plus years later I am usually on the bottom of the first page or top of the second and I can't seem to move up from there but I am ok with it.
Since 2010. O.O
Dayum. I had no idea! I thought it was just a recent thing when they changed our contracts. Thanks for pointing that out.
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I do the opt out of promotions--it definitely hurts my traffic.
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So STREAMATE is selling videos of ME on their site for 2.99? Can they do this????
I have several regs who keep telling me they buy or watch videos of me that are "hot" on my SM profile page for $2.99. What the fuck is this shit? I don't remember saying that could happen? Is this true? Is it happening to other models? How is this possible?
Any input or advise would be great.
I wonder if I need to make a SM profile to go see this as a "customer".....>:(
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Re: So STREAMATE is selling videos of ME on their site for 2.99? Can they do this????
There is a thread on this, but I'm too lazy atm to search for it. I think that's one of those " you signed up for this" thing with the site though. Probably buried in the ToS.
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Re: So STREAMATE is selling videos of ME on their site for 2.99? Can they do this????
This happened to me and there is a thread for it but I don't remember what it was called. Hopefully someone can bump it.
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Re: So STREAMATE is selling videos of ME on their site for 2.99? Can they do this????
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sweetandnaughty
I have several regs who keep telling me they buy or watch videos of me that are "hot" on my SM profile page for $2.99. What the fuck is this shit? I don't remember saying that could happen? Is this true? Is it happening to other models? How is this possible?
Any input or advise would be great.
I wonder if I need to make a SM profile to go see this as a "customer".....>:(
Im very sorry this has happened to you. When I went to google I did a search for this: stripperweb + streamate + video and got these results https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...eamate%20video
thats a really quick and thorough way of doing a search on this forum.
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Re: PLEASE HELP READ streamate is selling a video of me during one of my privates???
Watermark your feed. I'm actually on etsy.com looking at name blocks to hang in my background lol.
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Artscow lets you print towels, a canvas, pretty much any household item with your branding