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has anyone tried Seeking Arrangements or other similar websites sugar daddies, etc
I have read a bunch of posts from girls looking through craigslist for adult gigs (not escorting). I just wondered if anyone had any luck on seekingarrangements.com or whatsYourPrice.com....I signed up but it always ends up with people asking for sex. They want to now if I'll accept $200 for a date. I say whats a date? Dinner and a movie, sure. They say, maybe a hand job in the car....WTF? Are there no legitimate sugar daddies willing to just pay for the company of a nice pretty girl anymore?
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TiffTiff
I have read a bunch of posts from girls looking through craigslist for adult gigs (not escorting). I just wondered if anyone had any luck on seekingarrangements.com or whatsYourPrice.com....I signed up but it always ends up with people asking for sex. They want to now if I'll accept $200 for a date. I say whats a date? Dinner and a movie, sure. They say, maybe a hand job in the car....WTF? Are there no legitimate sugar daddies willing to just pay for the company of a nice pretty girl anymore?
There are several great sugar daddy threads on here, for an eye opener I'd highly recommend you go to the male dominated forums like on ECCIE and reddit forums that will be a cold splash of reality. Trigger Warning: You'll leave cynical. Sorry TiffTiff, I don't think there ever existed very many sugar daddies who pay strictly for company with no other expectations. I think that's what most marriages are for Only tangentially related, but even in the famous Breakfast at Tiffany, both the male and female protagonists were sex workers. I have a friend who use to like to befriend young pretty women, have lunch, and help them a little (make a car payment, etc.) on a very informal basis - and he loved the quid pro quo to be as invisible as possible so he could feel like they enjoyed his lunch company. He concentrated on young professional woman in our industry and was genuine about a sort of mentor relationship that included a little financial aid. As to finding off professional websites sites? Having read other forums, my belief is that most sugar daddies are bargain hunters trying to trade small amounts of money for large amounts of time that includes sex and even try and trade advice for sex. I think finding a great SD as defined by many sex workers on here is difficult and finding one that is trading a reasonable amount of money for vanilla time only is very rare.
Might I ask, what are your expectations time vs money? Because if you don't have some idea others will try and dictate it for you.
I've read woman on here who have said they were in or coming out of successfully negotiated SB relationships, but by successful I think it meant the money was enough given the time, the company was good (hygiene/likable and interesting guy), but I do think it included more than simply company. I'm sure you'll have some chime in, but again, read all the forum threads you can and you'll likely get a wide variety of opinions that tell the truth in a way no single thread can.
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Re: has anyone tried Seeking Arrangements or other similar websites sugar daddies, et
TiffTiff,
First, I used the sugar daddies sites for a few months until I had a weird experience with them. Personally, I believe that you can get some sugar daddies willing to pay for just your company.However, tons of rich men want cheap sexual arrangements now :( However, there are some sliver linings to every dark cloud. A lot of girls do not know this but you can make an arrangement with a single blue collared guy. First, he needs to make at least 60,000 at his blue collared job. Usually, he needs to be single, young to middle-aged, and without any children. He can work anywhere from the steel mill to the trucking field. However, you must make it seem like a relationship to him and he will help you will bills. A simple friendship is enough for most of these guys because many girls are fearful of them. Tons of them look rough and edger.Many of them enjoy talking to "nice girls" since they mostly meet girls into their money and benefits. Usually, they give between 600 to 2000( usually long-haul truckers) a week if you play your cards right.In addition, many of these blue collar guys want a girl who they can talk to before giving. This means weekly long phone calls and trips to Red Robin, but you can have a long-term non-sexual arrangement. At least, you would have to give them a hand job for 200 dollars :)
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TiffTiff
I have read a bunch of posts from girls looking through craigslist for adult gigs (not escorting). I just wondered if anyone had any luck on seekingarrangements.com or whatsYourPrice.com....I signed up but it always ends up with people asking for sex. They want to now if I'll accept $200 for a date. I say whats a date? Dinner and a movie, sure. They say, maybe a hand job in the car....WTF? Are there no legitimate sugar daddies willing to just pay for the company of a nice pretty girl anymore?
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Unfortunately its a rarity these days, if not impossible. The only guys who will pay without sex are really old men who cant get it up anymore, or guys with sexual dysfunctions like ED. But a sexually healthy man with money is going to want sex. They dont need to pay for company, they are most likely married and have tons of friends and acquaintences already. Personally, I am not a fan of meeting "sugar daddies" online because they are not genuine most of the time. They like to use that term as bait, but they rarely follow through with it. They just want cheap sex. Your best bet for finding a real sugar daddy is to meet him in person at a strip club or a place where rich men frequently hang out at.
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Seeking Arrangements is a waste of time. A bunch of wannabe SD's with no money. I met someone there once because he was a CEO of a successful tech company but he was cheap as fuck. I finally managed to get $500 out of him but I needed to use mad hustling skills. Overall it wasn't worth my energy. I've known girls who do well on WhatsYourPrice but they live in large cities like NYC.
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I was just curious. At one clubbed i worked at I had a good regular, man in his 70's, only drank a glass of wine, then soda all night. Came to see me once a week for about a year. I would never ever meet a customer outside of work for any reason or any amount of money. But this guy made me an offer. he just wanted to have a nice dinner at a nice restaurant and have someone to talk to and he would pay for the meal and give me $150. I finally agreed, but with conditions...daytime hours only and I bring an anonymous someone who would already be at the restaurant as security for me but wouldn't eat with us or approach us. He agreed. We did this maybe 4 times. Then a girl stole him from me.....how you ask? she agreed to hold hands and kiss him during dinner, which I declined to do but he says he was ok with it??!!
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A while ago, I was checking back my old ass SA account just for fun (for I'm married and no longer need a sugar daddy). Out of dozens of dudes who replied me, only one seemed legit. However, he was overly creepy. He was some political lobbyist that was telling me that as soon as I agreed on an agreement, he'd hire a PI to check on me, hackers to infiltrate on my accounts (good luck on that one), etc. I obviously didn't accept!
Other dudes that seemed legit wanted to be overly public (eg. Wanted me to take tons of pictures with them to post them on SA, etc.). I don't like that shit!
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I joined some millionaire dating site once for shits and giggles and only a few pages in I found a guy I personally knew (ex of a friend) who I know full well is far from a millionaire lol, so I deleted my account thinking all the other 'millionaires' might be like him too.
Also joined what's your price (twice i beleive) but I'm too chicken to meet anyone and put up with their possible expectations.
curiosity takes the best of me, I've signed up for many sites just to check out the guys on there lol
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yeah, what's your price I get a lot of emails but I'm too chicken to meet anyone also. How do women do it??
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You have to choose what's best for YOUR personal situation.
1. If you are in an emergency situation and you need fast cash (and you have street smarts) escorting is the speediest way to get money in your wallet.
2. If you are struggling but have food, shelter, transportation and simply desire a better lifestyle THEN I would dip into the sugar baby realm.
A guy is NOT going to spend oodles of money on a stranger above local escort market rates UNTIL AND UNLESS he has formed a bond with you. That takes time. Generally to see the big numbers where you get thousands a month it takes anywhere from 1-3 months depending on your connection, your personality, and his finances. I'm saying 1-3 months AFTER you meet him and all goes well. The girls that get the apartment, car, and hefty allowance generally get to that level in about 9 months to a year after meeting the guy.
For someone who is socially unconnected to rich powerful men, the sugarbaby deal will be extremely difficult especially if your finances are in a tight spot. The sugarbaby sites are trash. I've tried it and read the book by Taylor Jones (it's well written and intelligent) and I deduced that the girls successful online put a LOT of time into it.
If you are determined to have the sugarbaby experience just to say "I did it!" read Ho Tactics. It brilliantly outlines what you have to do. It IS a major time commitment however, and you will have to find the time and money to consistently be out there mingling with the rich and powerful. Also, meeting sugardaddies in person means they'll see you as a girlfriend. You will likely get lots of expensive presents and dinners before you'll see Benjamin Franklin's.
If you are living hand-to-mouth then you lack the time necessary for the online sugarbaby game. That stuff works well for middle class girls who just want a little bit of an upgrade. For working class girls or ladies living on the edge you need to pick something that will pay you faster. Many girls in that situation escort, prodom, strip or some combination of the 3.
Good luck.
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ThisIsbliss,
Actually, I mention the high-paying working class guys to get your sugar skills up before going to bigger fish. I mean they are perfect for newbies or girls just looking to get their feet wet in the sugar bowl. In addition, they can spend some money on a girl without that much effort but you must for a semi-bond with them :) I like them because they are much easier to work for long-term non sexual arrangements.
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thisISbliss
You have to choose what's best for YOUR personal situation.
1. If you are in an emergency situation and you need fast cash (and you have street smarts) escorting is the speediest way to get money in your wallet.
2. If you are struggling but have food, shelter, transportation and simply desire a better lifestyle THEN I would dip into the sugar baby realm.
A guy is NOT going to spend oodles of money on a stranger above local escort market rates UNTIL AND UNLESS he has formed a bond with you. That takes time. Generally to see the big numbers where you get thousands a month it takes anywhere from 1-3 months depending on your connection, your personality, and his finances. I'm saying 1-3 months AFTER you meet him and all goes well. The girls that get the apartment, car, and hefty allowance generally get to that level in about 9 months to a year after meeting the guy.
For someone who is socially unconnected to rich powerful men, the sugarbaby deal will be extremely difficult especially if your finances are in a tight spot. The sugarbaby sites are trash. I've tried it and read the book by Taylor Jones (it's well written and intelligent) and I deduced that the girls successful online put a LOT of time into it.
If you are determined to have the sugarbaby experience just to say "I did it!" read Ho Tactics. It brilliantly outlines what you have to do. It IS a major time commitment however, and you will have to find the time and money to consistently be out there mingling with the rich and powerful. Also, meeting sugardaddies in person means they'll see you as a girlfriend. You will likely get lots of expensive presents and dinners before you'll see Benjamin Franklin's.
If you are living hand-to-mouth then you lack the time necessary for the online sugarbaby game. That stuff works well for middle class girls who just want a little bit of an upgrade. For working class girls or ladies living on the edge you need to pick something that will pay you faster. Many girls in that situation escort, prodom, strip or some combination of the 3.
Good luck.
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DonaDiabla
ThisIsbliss,
Actually, I mention the high-paying working class guys to get your sugar skills up before going to bigger fish. I mean they are perfect for newbies or girls just looking to get their feet wet in the sugar bowl. In addition, they can spend some money on a girl without that much effort but you must for a semi-bond with them :) I like them because they are much easier to work for long-term non sexual arrangements.
My best client ever in the 6.5 years of performing was a conservative blue collar guy. I met him while advertising with the whole upscale escort persona. Thing is, for girls looking to make money they are looking for how fast it will come and I didn't mention blue collar guys because the money isn't necessarily faster.
However from a budget standpoint, you spend less money on beauty treatments...a blue collar guy will be okay with fishnets, Dreamgirl outfits and stripper heels whereas Mr. Rich might strongly prefer Wolfords, LaPerla, and Louboutins.
For a chick who is broke, she'd still have to drive around to meet Mr. Bluecollar and that's a major time commitment. From a time/money ratio, I'd aim for Mr. Rich although personality wise I get along with Mr. Bluecollar better. Bluecollar guys who are within driving distance tend to be in the cities and the cities have a high cost of living (which means less $$ for the wannabe sugarbaby).
Mr. Bluecollar overall wins in the personality and fun department (I say this because they tend to be straightforward and direct-you will know where you stand with this type of man)so for a girl who wants to meet someone who makes her feel nice and warm I'd pick him.
For chicks who just want the money aim for Mr. Rich (but you will need etiquette skills, social skills and an ability to read people because rich people tend to communicate with subtext and innuendo and will happily string you along with you being none the wiser. You need strong persuasive skills with this type of man)
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I've met woman who did the SB thing, then quickly transitioned into escorting because the SB deal wasn't worth the time and energy. I have met dudes on SA, they definitely do expect cheap sex. One gave me a $100 visa gift card as we were going to dinner. I spent a painful hour in the car with him, a painful hour eating dinner, and a painful period where we made out a bit and I realized I totally didn't want to bang him for $100. I felt that $100 was already well fucking spent. So he drove me home. Not a word was said on either side. ... I was pretty poor then so I was pretty happy to have a full little belly. Never again.
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EastCoastDancer01
Unfortunately its a rarity these days, if not impossible. The only guys who will pay without sex are really old men who cant get it up anymore, or guys with sexual dysfunctions like ED.
My preference.
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Everyone says hang out where the rich men are but once you are there, THEN WHAT? Let's say I am at an upscale hotel bar, I just sit and survey the room, and wait? Do I make eye contact with a potential? If he doesn't approach me then do I assume he's uninterested? What if I am seated on the far left of the bar and a potential is at the far right? Do I then sit next to him? What if you waste an hour talking to a guy and then he's like "well have a good night!" It just seems like pure luck for a sugar baby and sugar daddy to meet at the right time, right place, etc
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I do not have the time or social skills to go for super rich men. My favorite place to eat is Olive Garden. lol I do have time to text, call, email or meet up once a week for a restaurant or diner. I just can't find these guys. They all want sex right away or they stop texting me. I usually meet them at the club I work, I feel like I can trust them, after a few weeks or months I give them my number. We text a few weeks then it turns into "How much for you to come over here and ride me all night" type of shit.
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Exxotica
Everyone says hang out where the rich men are but once you are there, THEN WHAT? Let's say I am at an upscale hotel bar, I just sit and survey the room, and wait? Do I make eye contact with a potential? If he doesn't approach me then do I assume he's uninterested? What if I am seated on the far left of the bar and a potential is at the far right? Do I then sit next to him? What if you waste an hour talking to a guy and then he's like "well have a good night!" It just seems like pure luck for a sugar baby and sugar daddy to meet at the right time, right place, etc
You just have to keep trying. I have tried "fishing" for rich guys at regular bars & sometimes they catch on really fast about what my "game" is. It's worth a shot...
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TiffTiff
I do not have the time or social skills to go for super rich men. My favorite place to eat is Olive Garden. lol I do have time to text, call, email or meet up once a week for a restaurant or diner. I just can't find these guys. They all want sex right away or they stop texting me. I usually meet them at the club I work, I feel like I can trust them, after a few weeks or months I give them my number. We text a few weeks then it turns into "How much for you to come over here and ride me all night" type of shit.
Not to sound mean but Olive Garden will not work - not that I dont love endless salad bar and bread sticks lol -
IS there a Ruth Chris or Morten's in your city? those can be nice - you have to do some homework for your city
find the 5 star hotels in your city - they will have a bar/restaurant - set up a rotation to hit all of them and not be to obvious at any one
Boat marina's are wonderful - if you are close to water in your city
sports will always attract wealthy men
small airports - in my city they have a small club by the airport with a bar and little cafe
google the average home price in a few zip codes - find the high end homes and go to coffee shops/deli's in that neighborhood
one trip to any of these will not work either - you have to be consistent and persistent
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Nikki Fox, you are a genius!! I never thought about Ruth Chris in San Francisco. Usually, I actively avoid steakhouses in San Francisco because many are not very good but I will check out Ruth Chris's. In addition, I will also check out Morten's if I want to step up my hustle as well. Thank you for the tip :)
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Nikki_Fox
Not to sound mean but Olive Garden will not work - not that I dont love endless salad bar and bread sticks lol -
IS there a Ruth Chris or Morten's in your city? those can be nice - you have to do some homework for your city
find the 5 star hotels in your city - they will have a bar/restaurant - set up a rotation to hit all of them and not be to obvious at any one
Boat marina's are wonderful - if you are close to water in your city
sports will always attract wealthy men
small airports - in my city they have a small club by the airport with a bar and little cafe
google the average home price in a few zip codes - find the high end homes and go to coffee shops/deli's in that neighborhood
one trip to any of these will not work either - you have to be consistent and persistent
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Yeah douchey rich dudes love sports bars. The one I worked at had a few multi-millionaire regulars and some guys would park high end cars right in front so everyone could see them. lol Guys are so predictable
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Nikki_Fox
Not to sound mean but Olive Garden will not work - not that I dont love endless salad bar and bread sticks lol -
IS there a Ruth Chris or Morten's in your city? those can be nice - you have to do some homework for your city
find the 5 star hotels in your city - they will have a bar/restaurant - set up a rotation to hit all of them and not be to obvious at any one
Boat marina's are wonderful - if you are close to water in your city
sports will always attract wealthy men
small airports - in my city they have a small club by the airport with a bar and little cafe
google the average home price in a few zip codes - find the high end homes and go to coffee shops/deli's in that neighborhood
one trip to any of these will not work either - you have to be consistent and persistent
The Olive Garden thing, that was my point. I have cheap taste and I can't help it. So I'm not suited to go after rich men. I may not even know a real expensive purse if I fell over it...or shoes. My money has always been spent raising kids, buying food, paying mortgages or car payments, vacationing, furniture, linens, kids clothes, etc...I never spent it on designer anything. I have been to Maggiano's a few times but not even super rich guys go there. I went there because I love Italian food and it's a step or two above olive garden. LOL I don't even drink starbucks.
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If you have cheap tastes, it'll be hard to snag a rich man. Like ThisisBliss said above, Mr. Rich wants you in Prada, not Payless. Your options are to either sugar with a few blue collar guys with extra money in their pocket
OR...
Invest your time, money, and energy into cultivating the necessary social graces to land you a wealthy sugar daddy. Read books on etiquette to perfect your manners. Visit art museums to expand your horizons (and give you something to talk to these SDs about!). Buy good quality designer clothes at consignment shops if you can't afford retail. Eat at nice restaurants and order off the appetizer menu. Within no time, it'll come naturally to live a better quality of life!
Trust me. I had to do it too! And it WORKED!
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My 11 year old grand daughter loves Starbucks - she wants it every day - I made her start paying for it - she asked me last week when I thought they were going to get a dollar menu ;D
I agree with a lot of what Bombshelle said - and the more you expose yourself to these places the more comfortable you will be-- BUT - there are self made men out there who are not really comfortable with a superficial rich lifestyle - you can hook one of these guys -
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Nikki_Fox
BUT - there are self made men out there who are not really comfortable with a superficial rich lifestyle - you can hook one of these guys -
Agree, I have had a bit of luck with this type. Still need to be well-spoken and present yourself well but I think at best they don't care if I wear 'mid tier' clothes and at worst dressing very upscale would be off-putting.
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SA is great if you're not looking for a SD relationship. Which kind of defeats the purpose but in the year that I was on there I went out with more regular guys who made between 60k-150k than actual SDs. Your best bet is an older man who makes decent money and wants to spend it on you...