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I would just ignore them. I would say tell your manager but sometimes they are in cahoots. I hate pimps.
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Get up mid conversation and me personally I tell the manager. If enough girls complain they get asked to leave. It's super annoying and neither the club nor the dancers make money from pimps in the club so they are basically like old furniture that needs to be removed.
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I dont know I've never really been nice. When I'm firm, set boundaries, and walk away I'm left alone. Usually they go after nice girls who find it hard to say no.
I hardly give out my number anymore. I have so much more peace with my new phone number and not having regulars. I'm also broke LOL
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Be aggressive! You can't be nice or subtle with people like that, they always take advantage of the nice ones. If you see him again and he says something to you, tell him you only acted nice to be polite bc it's part of your job but you have no interest in seeing people OTC. Tell him if that's what he wants then go see a prostitute! Definitely tell your managers to keep an eye on these guys so they are aware of them. But make it clear to them that you have your own life outside of work and are not up for grabs. Pimps don't like independent women.
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you just walk away. Dont let people who aren't paying you grope you and all of the above. I've had "pimps" even buy dances just to get to talk to me because they know I won't waste my time otherwise. Once they've paid me I tell them I already have a pimp lol
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Wow that's crazy I haven't encountered any pimps so far, and I think were both in the same city. I'm a newbie as well with 4 shifts under my belt. What club was this at by the way?
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I just tell them they're stupid because I'd be a financial deficit. I'd scare off all the fish.
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Anyway, how do you deal with them? I don't want to be rude or piss them off so I don't get stabbed or some shit after work, but I really don't have the time or patience for them making me so uncomforable. Please help!
Get up and walk away from them, mid-sentence if it has to be.
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/jack Hi Starling, haven't seen you in the same threads lately :)
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Start acting like you have developmental challenges or talk like you are partially deaf. Just patronize the guy. They aren't interested in disabled girls, they like girls with drug addictions & severe personality disorder (those are the ones who often stay willingly with a pimp.)
Just act like a 3 year old. He will figure it out (or not) and go find another target...
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Start acting like you have developmental challenges or talk like you are partially deaf. Just patronize the guy. They aren't interested in disabled girls, they like girls with drug addictions & severe personality disorder (those are the ones who often stay willingly with a pimp.)
Just act like a 3 year old. He will figure it out (or not) and go find another target...
Great, love it! I'm going to use this in 'regular life'! :)
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Get up and walk away from them, mid-sentence if it has to be.
This is what you do and they shouldnt bother you again. It looks bad to even let pimps talk with you.
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/jack Hi Starling, haven't seen you in the same threads lately :)
Haven't been as active these last few weeks...picked up a ton of hours at my job. Still lurking though. :)
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Just get up and walk away. Nothing gets the message across clearer to a pimp that you're not having his shit than ignoring him. Point him out to a staff member or manager, then go on about your own business. As for some kind of after work retaliation, I seriously hope your club has bouncers walking out with girls when y'all go to your cars. If not, I'd suggest moving on to another club for that reason alone.
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Come to think of it, yes in some clubs just talking to the guy would be used against the dancer.
Just say "I have a phone call I need to take" and get up and leave. I'd be secretive about pointing him out to the bouncers, since he might get mad at you. Better he confront the security rather than you.
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OP if you are *that* concerned abt any 'retaliation' for refusing to put up w/ them, it might be time to find another club where you can feel like you will have backup should you need it.
That said, forget being nice; as stated above, pimps don't respond positively to subtlety & niceness. If they think they can get an in w/ you, they will continue to pursue you. So shut them down right away, & be discrete abt pointing them out to security/mgmt. If the club staff brushes off their presence, or worse their behaviour, take that as a red flag & a sign to find a new club.
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Can I ask what club you're at? I've worked at most of the bars in Ottawa at some point (or have friends that have), and the cleanest ones like Nuden or Barbs, do not take kindly to their "kind". Espescially if they are bothering the girls. If you're at say Pigales or another club that has a lot of extras I would suggest just avoiding them in the future, and if they start talking to you just shut them down. You don't have to worry about getting stabbed in the parking lot lol this isn't Detroit, but you are on the right track with the whole "don't piss anyone off if I don't need to attitude". They used to approach me all the time when I was younger and I found the best way to end the conversation (and dissuade their interest) was to act really turned off by anything they talk about combined with hassling them to spend money (because they rarely do). "Oh baby, all my girls drive Ferrari's"--> "That sounds like a ridiculous waste of money, imagine the interest you could be generating if you invested that much cash. Speaking of cash, how about you give me some." "Oh baby I want to take you out and treat you really nice"-->"Sorry, I have two jobs and I work 6 days a week I barely have enough time as it is to socialize, and I really don't have time for dating, espescially guys that I meet here. But we can go for a dance if you'd like, that could be fun." "Oh come on baby, I just want to take care of you."--> "I don't need to be taken care of, I'm a grown up, not a child. By the way, are we going to go for that dance, like, ever?" They will eventually just straight up tell you that they don't get dances, after dicking around for a bit, and that gives you an out without having to say anything other than "Nice chat but I have to get back to work now byyyyeeeee". Or you can just leave right away. If you're bored and it's dead poking fun at them and their goofy style can be entertaining sometimes. They're really nothing to be scared of in this city as long as you steer clear of getting involved with them. In the SC I mean. The bouncers will keep you safe. But they're everywhere just fyi, not just in the SC. Ottawa has a baaaaaad trafficking problem (it seems like pimps' prey of choice is white naive suburban girls, and this city is filled with them), my sister's friend from uni met one from montreal that was really really fucked up on POF.
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BTW I've known girls with pimps and I have to say, I never imagined life could be so fucked up until I realized what was going on with these pimps (I won't call them men, they are pieces of shit.) I've seen all the typical shit- they actually cut girl's faces, take all the money, beat the girls and sometimes do even worse. The sad thing is a lot of these girls are so broken down they don't even see what is happening to them. I can't even imagine.
& NOT all pimps are young urban dudes. I've ran into a few middle aged guys who have f-ed up relationships with working girls or dancers. Yuck.
Wild card tip- Tell the pimp you "already have a man." Not that it will scare him, but a lot figure if you won't go for their offer, it's cause you are already "taken".
& Another question- why don't clubs mess with these dudes? If I was a manager I would have so much fun with screwing with these dudes. Maybe they're afraid of violence, I dunno...
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not from the area originally so just wanted to clear up what SC stands for?
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Odette, whats POF? And as I haven't yet posted to this thread; I used to literally stroke their cheek (with the back of my hand); tell them they'd make more money if they worked for me and that they would look cute in a wig and a skirt. Worked every single damn time!
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^Plenty of Fish. They're alllll over the online dating sites now too. Didn't want to threadjack because its a long fucked up story but basically my sister ended up calling the police because this girl was scared and getting threatening messages and him and his accomplice were trying to get her to Montreal. It's one of the crazier stories I've heard and is ironically completely unrelated to any kind of sex work :( Sometimes I'm so greatful for the things dancing has taught me...like how to recognize these types a mile away and not get involved in their bullshit. Though really the way this situation went down the guy was so sneaky anyone could have gone for it pretty much.