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SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private?
I just started camming on SM yesterday, and so far I'm ALWAYS in private shows. I'm not complaining, but I'm wondering if this is harmful to my ranking/popularity? It seems like being in free chat is a good way for people to see what you're like so they can decide if they want to do a private with you. If i'm always in private to begin, doesn't that hurt my ranking/popularity?
Also another quick question for SM girls: how long did it take for you to be able to do gold shows?
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
If you're always in private is a great thing. The guys will wonder what makes you so good that you're always in private and join! Your percentage in paid chat will help your ranking/popularity greatly.
I don't do gold shows but it varies. Some have to wait and others get it right away! If you're that busy with privates, I wouldn't do GS!
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
Also, if you're always in pvts, you should consider raising your rates. More money per hour and all that:)
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
I always thought the whole point of ranking high was to be in private more...so if you're always in private then apparently your ranking is high enough :)
Also note that earnings do play a large part in your rankings, but I'll bet the top earners are not at all the top models listed on SM. If winning a popularity contest doesn't translate to more earnings, why do it?
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I had to re-read this thread twice because I was confused at the question. If you are always in private than you are always getting paid, which is always the end goal. Being in free chat is basically just a waiting area to go into private or exclusive, the more shows you get the better you rank and you will still appear in placement it will just say you are in private where they can join in if they want with whoever you are in with already.
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
do u mind to teel how much your rates are?
mine are 3,99/4,99, started broadcast today and have no private!
I kept on line for 84 minutes and give up, but I thing the problem maybe my internet connection that was freezing and guys were going in and out all the time
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
Making money is what is going to raise your placement aka ranking the fastest. Higher placement means higher "popularity". However, if you aren't making more than others around your same placement then you won't move up. Just being in private doesn't mean you're making a lot of money, or more money than others, to increase your rankings if you are not charging high enough.
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mine is 2.99/3.99, but I think I'm going to raise it starting tomorrow to around what yours are, since I can't do gold shows yet and I want to mazimize how much I make in private
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
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SummerBlaze
I had to re-read this thread twice because I was confused at the question. If you are always in private than you are always getting paid, which is always the end goal. Being in free chat is basically just a waiting area to go into private or exclusive, the more shows you get the better you rank and you will still appear in placement it will just say you are in private where they can join in if they want with whoever you are in with already.
don't people typically make more money in gold shows than they do in privates? my rates are 2.99/3.99 in private, and I usually only have one or two people at once. wouldn't I make more money doing a gold show?
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
Not necessarily. Have you watched any gold show countdowns? You will see some girls seem to be making large sums of money in relatively short amounts of time, but you will also see a lot of ladies with lower goals having to restart countdowns because they are not reaching goal.
It really depends on the individual girl, her goal, her buy in, her show. Personally I rarely offer gold shows, I hate the countdown shows, besides I earn more with private and exclusives. If you really want to be able to offer gold shows and can't wait, try messaging support and asking to have them enabled. Thats all I had to do ;). While you are messaging support I would also ask them to increase your available rates, they will ask you how high would you like them, just say $19.99, (I think thats the max but I'm sure someone who knows will correct me ;)) once you are able to go higher I would raise your rates $4.99/$7.99 minimum, thats how you will make more money.
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habshabshabs
don't people typically make more money in gold shows than they do in privates? my rates are 2.99/3.99 in private, and I usually only have one or two people at once. wouldn't I make more money doing a gold show?
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
I would raise those rates. You want to stay busy but not too busy that you can't catch your breath. You are a luxury good, not In and out Burger!
I have more to say. A cheeseburger wilth no cheese do sound delicious right now!
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habshabshabs
mine is 2.99/3.99, but I think I'm going to raise it starting tomorrow to around what yours are, since I can't do gold shows yet and I want to mazimize how much I make in private
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
How to become popular? Work hard, get ratings, percentage in paid chat up, and make as much as you can. Also Always ask for favorites after any shows, so you'll be at the top of their list when they are at the main page and possibly become regs. One week I made $1400, when I was averaging $500-600 /w, and I saw my placement skyrocketed. Definitely raise those rates. When I raised mine, only two people complained. One who never did a show with me, and one who would always try to rush me.
Gold shows are hard when you don't have much traffic. More traffic you have, more likely your gold show won't fail. When you get gold shows, start them out to $40 or $50 goals. If I do a $100 gold show, that $35 my cut. My premium rate is $6.99 a minute. Almost equivalent to a 15 minute private. So If you get it to $50, that would be like a 17 minute private with your current rates. Also opt into TV producer if your not worried about potentially being on TV or used for marketing. You will be number one on placement. This is also a great way to get new members in your room. Make sure you always put on a memorable show, which will make them want to come back.
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I'm LOLing at this thread because I was so excited to get Gold Shows and then wasted a lot of time making no money trying to get one. Also my rates are too low. I had already decided to hold off on GSs until I had more regulars, as I have no issue getting private shows PROBABLY BECAUSE I WAS CHEAP. Hahaha. I was sweating by the end of the night from dressing and undressing so much/fast!
Thanks OP, apparently I needed this info too.
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
My ranking skyrocketed by logging on, being consistent, making regulars, ASKING for ratings at the end of every show and being in PAID Chat. The more you're in paid, the higher the site will rank you because you are making them more money. It's basicccccc.
My rates are $7.99/$9.99 and I alternate between those and gold shows. My favorite thing to do is use Gold Shows to tease them into going straight into a private after.
I prefer privates and exclusives to gold shows any day. Don't get me wrong, I do gold shows.. but sometimes they can be a pain in the ass, and for me, they can be disheartening if they aren't hitting the goals. If I have 3 people in private (which I continually did tonight) then I'm making $8.38 a min my cut. It's more laid back and I make it very clear they CANNOT make requests in private. My show, my way. :)
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Ivy, so do you take requests in gold shows? I'm curious, I haven't done gold shows yet, but I was considering doing them on the basis of " you're getting a discount, so just sit back and watch while I do what I want" . I'm interested in how other girls run their different shows.
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
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CharleyQuinn
Ivy, so do you take requests in gold shows? I'm curious, I haven't done gold shows yet, but I was considering doing them on the basis of " you're getting a discount, so just sit back and watch while I do what I want" . I'm interested in how other girls run their different shows.
No way. I do them on the same basis you are thinking of doing yours. I do what I want and they get to watch. Sometimes I will do a high tip name moan, or a high tip over $25 gets to control show, but sometimes I just do a basic you pay to watch me do what I do type of thing. :)
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
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Originally Posted by
CharleyQuinn
Ivy, so do you take requests in gold shows? I'm curious, I haven't done gold shows yet, but I was considering doing them on the basis of " you're getting a discount, so just sit back and watch while I do what I want" . I'm interested in how other girls run their different shows.
I never do gold shows in order to give men a discount. I use them to reel in the big fish or when I am performing with another person. Easier to do one to 3 gold shows when I have a male or female with me than to jump in and out of paid chat.
Also I NEVER set a low goal, mine is permanently at $1000. Of course I haven't reached it YET! but wel on my way to. :) Even solo I definitely get over $100 for total goal & my cut $35 or more due to how many of my guys at 75% join in. Most of the time I reach $300 & make $100 for my solo shows, if I have a guy with me then we usually reach $500 for the show & make about $100 each.
Now, I do limit how many gold shows in do per day. I am NOT on cam to train men to do cheap gold shows. Usually I am at $6 for 6 minute solo gold show, but if they are being cheap I will cancel it & start over again at $10 or depending upon my mood at $20 for a 6 minute gold show. This is when I get my whales who will buy in at $100 then go exclusive with me afterwards & tip me more $100s.
I'm not here to be Walmart, I'm here to become Niemans Marcus. How you raise to the top is not based upon popularity in free chat but upon how much you make per hour on cam. SM is all about the money, as it well should be.
Smooches,
Sam
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
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Originally Posted by
Sam38g
I never do gold shows in order to give men a discount. I use them to reel in the big fish or when I am performing with another person. Easier to do one to 3 gold shows when I have a male or female with me than to jump in and out of paid chat.
Also I NEVER set a low goal, mine is permanently at $1000. Of course I haven't reached it YET! but wel on my way to. :) Even solo I definitely get over $100 for total goal & my cut $35 or more due to how many of my guys at 75% join in. Most of the time I reach $300 & make $100 for my solo shows, if I have a guy with me then we usually reach $500 for the show & make about $100 each.
Now, I do limit how many gold shows in do per day. I am NOT on cam to train men to do cheap gold shows. Usually I am at $6 for 6 minute solo gold show, but if they are being cheap I will cancel it & start over again at $10 or depending upon my mood at $20 for a 6 minute gold show. This is when I get my whales who will buy in at $100 then go exclusive with me afterwards & tip me more $100s.
I'm not here to be Walmart, I'm here to become Niemans Marcus. How you raise to the top is not based upon popularity in free chat but upon how much you make per hour on cam. SM is all about the money, as it well should be.
Smooches,
Sam
YESSSSS. I love when you do $1000 gold shows!! I also limit how many GS I do a day. I like to use them as a teaser to entice them into either private or Exclusive, and I generally stick with 3 or 4. Sometimes not even that many. Most of my guys know that if I don't get high enough goal wise to start a show, then that will be my last gold show I offer that day. I want big fish, not the guys who think you should give them the world for $4.
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It's so funny this big fish talk in regards to gold shows. I've NEVER had a whale tip for a gold show. All the high spenders I've ever had wouldn't touch a gold show with a 10 foot pole! I've seen several count downs where the girl gets tipped big by her "gold show regulars" and I'm just like... whaaaat?! I've had a few big tips during gold shows yah (biggest being $400), but nothing that turned into regulars. They have all been ninja tippers that barely spoke to me afterwards!
I need me some of these gold show whales y'all speak of! :)
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
I need a gold show class lol This is actually really helpful, honestly i've been over-thinking it. Need to just dooooo it.
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$3 buy in, goal is $80 in 7 minutes, gave a free 3 min. vid with every pledge, (don't tell them the vid is 3 mins.). That worked today. I felt like a super Walmart Gold Show ho today but it got me to goal.
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Re: SM: how do you become more popular/increasing ranking if you're ALWAYS in private
If you're doing well with all the PVT sessions, I wouldn't worry about ranking! When I was on the middle of my section, I was making 150$ in less than six hours a day. Now that I'm on the top and less new, I have to work different hours to make that goal! Ranking may be affected by your earnings, but ranking doesn't always raise them!
Also if you're doing really well doing Privates, don't worry about doing GS. Unless you make the buy-in a good middle price (close to your per-min rate but not exactly that), I've noticed that a lot of custies will become accustomed to paying less for a show and won't want to pay your normal rate. That's not always true, though. Once you get access I would try it out to see how your fanbase reacts to them and then decide. It's different for every girl! I would also DEFINITELY gradually try out higher rates- if you're doing well, you should bring it up some to get more money per show!
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habshabshabs seriously, tell me what is your secret, I be on for more than two hours (4 hours total per day, for two days) and made not even one single show and no one dollar