For those who have vanilla jobs, do you make more...
Lol.
So I'm feeling kind of odd and confused by this... But
I'm a freelance artist and stationery designer.
I'm currently making more money at that job than I am with camming.
And I just started this business in February...
Like.. wat.
This is really sad? Or is it?
Ultimately I wanted to have art and design be my career I retire on,
but dangit I want to cam! lol.
I make more money in two hours sketching than I do two hours on sm and cb.
I hear it's getting rough for a lot of girls, but for others, are you established with regulars and that's why your income has been consistent?
I totally destroyed my old personas and made new ones so I find myself struggling here, noting that I used to be able to make $25/hour minimum camming (on a slow night) a couple years ago and I currently can only seem to make $3/hour from tips... no shows whatsoever.
I want to tame this wild beast and have complete control over it. I'm studying, marketing, doing whatever I can and it seems like things are getting better.
I remember reading on here a good while ago that if you're not making $15/hour AT LEAST, you're doing something wrong...
I want to know what I'm doing wrong.
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But yeah, does anyone else actually make more with their vanilla job, if they have one?
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I was also in panic about that, I'm a newbie, started caming at sm this week, and I'm on for hours and hours without a single show, in my best day I made 30 dollars, and in the worst I made zero,
but it is a general complain, a lots of girls are complaining about the low traffic in sm
I'll try another sites while sm sucks like this,
Re: For those who have vanilla jobs, do you make more...
I was also in panic about that, I'm a newbie, started caming at sm this week, and I'm on for hours and hours without a single show, in my best day I made 30 dollars, and in the worst I made zero,
but it is a general complain, a lots of girls are complaining about the low traffic in sm
I'll try another sites while sm sucks like this,
don't give up of your vanilla job, put camming in second place and also try another sites, maybe we get luckier
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I make more from camming even on my slowest day. In order to even out your hourly and make the most, you truly have to do 5+ hours per shift. If you're new and unestablished, it takes more time to make the big bucks. When I started, I did 5 to 6 hour shifts and made at least $100 during those shifts. On days when my regulars well be on, I can make that goal in only 3 hours. Marketing and clip sites will also help. Most of us have our feet in more than one pool here. I haven't been as active on SM the past couple weeks since I've been sick, but from what I remember, things have been slow there. If you don't already have regulars and haven't had first page placement for a significant amount of time (enough to get at least a few thousand faves) then you should be putting in as much hours as possible. It's very rare to do more than 4 hours and make only $30, so I would check my encoder settings if I were you and maybe sure the stream is ok.
Otherwise, it just takes time. You have to build with camming. It's almost like starting your own business. Lots of dedication, hard work, and back up plans for those show weeks.
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^^^ essentially, the core issue is the difference between working at a 'job' and building a 'business'. The 'job' provides a fixed amount of regular income per hour, but lacks the capability of doing a better 'job' to immediately increase your income. Building a 'business' obviously has no guarantees about average hourly income, but does offer the capability that cultivating more customers and improving 'product offerings' could immediately result in increased sales = income to a level well beyond anything the 'job' could provide.
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You will eventually make more from camming then you could from any vanilla job with the exclusion of 6-figure jobs that require extensive credentials. Camming is a lot like being a real estate agent. You need to put in the hours to make a big sale and then you live off the commission for awhile. It can also be compared to trading stocks or any other commission-based sales job.
The top MFC girl makes 80K a month, (calculated by tokens per hour/time on line/number of girls), and while I believe she does, I don't think she REALLY does because then why is she still camming? I think the ones who don't quit are actually tipping themselves to keep their top placement. Why isn't she wearing Prada and driving a Bentley? Is she pretending to be a low earner? I guess that's possible. In the past, MFC girls who did make it to top 20 usually quit straight after because they made enough to retire and live off their investments and interest. Now, those girls yes, I believe they did make 80K a month but the girls right now? Nah.
Edited to add: Don't forget all the streams of passive and alternatives eg. clips, PSO, affiliate marketing referrals. Those can make you in slow times!
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Is dancing an option for you?
Many of us have our lucrative niches somewhere in the sex industry - it may take time to find where that niche is. And we all have different preferences for how we make our money.
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It took me about 6 weeks of rookie camming before the money really started flowing. After that I had a pretty stable income that put me way above the average wage in my country (I am in Eastern Europe). I will finish university this year and would make approximately 80% of my camming income with my masters degree in engineering where I live. I am about to move to another country because of love and start working as an engineer there. I have two job offerings and both are paying almost as much as camming does. Having said that, jobs that don't require a masters degree would pay my way less than camming.
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Originally Posted by
sexkitten_666
I make more from camming even on my slowest day. In order to even out your hourly and make the most, you truly have to do 5+ hours per shift. If you're new and unestablished, it takes more time to make the big bucks. When I started, I did 5 to 6 hour shifts and made at least $100 during those shifts. On days when my regulars well be on, I can make that goal in only 3 hours. Marketing and clip sites will also help. Most of us have our feet in more than one pool here. I haven't been as active on SM the past couple weeks since I've been sick, but from what I remember, things have been slow there. If you don't already have regulars and haven't had first page placement for a significant amount of time (enough to get at least a few thousand faves) then you should be putting in as much hours as possible. It's very rare to do more than 4 hours and make only $30, so I would check my encoder settings if I were you and maybe sure the stream is ok.
Otherwise, it just takes time. You have to build with camming. It's almost like starting your own business. Lots of dedication, hard work, and back up plans for those show weeks.
I really do need to lengthen my shifts... At first, for the first few days I would get extremely frustrated and only cam for 15 minutes before I raged internally and logged off for a while. Now I do an hour... need to push that to two hours tonight and keep lengthening it as I go on this week until I can do at least 4 hours straight.
I did noticed when I used c920, my placement went down... I don't know why because my cam quality and stuff was so bad before. I don't know what happened and I'm not really sure how or what I need to change with the encoder now.
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Originally Posted by
hyori
You will eventually make more from camming then you could from any vanilla job with the exclusion of 6-figure jobs that require extensive credentials. Camming is a lot like being a real estate agent. You need to put in the hours to make a big sale and then you live off the commission for awhile. It can also be compared to trading stocks or any other commission-based sales job.
The top MFC girl makes 80K a month, (calculated by tokens per hour/time on line/number of girls), and while I believe she does, I don't think she REALLY does because then why is she still camming? I think the ones who don't quit are actually tipping themselves to keep their top placement. Why isn't she wearing Prada and driving a Bentley? Is she pretending to be a low earner? I guess that's possible. In the past, MFC girls who did make it to top 20 usually quit straight after because they made enough to retire and live off their investments and interest. Now, those girls yes, I believe they did make 80K a month but the girls right now? Nah.
Edited to add: Don't forget all the streams of passive and alternatives eg. clips, PSO, affiliate marketing referrals. Those can make you in slow times!
I do need to make more videos still and upload them on sites. Thanks for reminding me. I would love to make about 1.5k a week... which is a little less than what I used to be able to do 2 years ago.
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Originally Posted by
charlie61
Is dancing an option for you?
Many of us have our lucrative niches somewhere in the sex industry - it may take time to find where that niche is. And we all have different preferences for how we make our money.
I don't know... I'd have to lose 20-30 lbs I think and have to go to the metro area, which is 2 hours away to get even decent work. I live in a small town and just... the strip club here is sad and just awful.