Hi, I dont know how many people know about this is what is happening on livejasmin....
Do you think camgirls should get paid when you sneak peak as we used to? Tell us here:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/t...bmasters-union
thank you
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Hi, I dont know how many people know about this is what is happening on livejasmin....
Do you think camgirls should get paid when you sneak peak as we used to? Tell us here:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/t...bmasters-union
thank you
LJ is truly the worst fucking scum sucking cam site ever made and this truly sums it all up. Models who work on LJ better start leaving. LJ needs to to be eliminated forever from ever being a cam site, I cannot believe the insulting, pimptastic shit this site tries to pull. I'd tie up their CEO by the balls, douse him in female orangutan pheromones and hang him up over a pit of horny male orangutans. Oh wait, that's animal abuse. Better I just hang him up by the balls over a pile of horse shit and let him struggle and fall. Karma will get them all.
Livejasmin is almost the worst site ever. It's the first site I ever worked on and it almost made me quit camming.
I'm so glad I left and this thing only adds to the reasons why other people should leave too.
why do u girl hate LJ so much? I didn't apply for it because I see lot of girls here saying it is not a good camsite but I didn' get why
Shall we count the ways? Their only good point IMO is how easy it is to contact their support, 24 hr live chat whenever you have a problem (getting paid to reply to messages isn't bad either). Besides that the rates are generally low(capped at 4.99 I think, and that was an improvement), people who don't even take you pvt can rate you, leave comments, and the free chat includes thousands of random guests who waste space in your chat screen. Their requirements for models is crazy (professional pictures, ratings for lighting, ect), every aspect of your room can be micromanaged if an admin finds something lacking. The amount (and quality) of traffic doesn't match the percentage they take. IMO, imo, imo.
That being said, I know a few girls here rock the site pretty well, I have no idea how they're doing that but more power to 'em!
EDIT: So do they not charged for previews anymore, or are they just done away with all together?
They still do charge members for sneak peaks, but models don't get the payments from sneak peaks anymore...apparently all sneak peaks $$$ goes towards Jasmin TV channel and nobody gives a fuck about Jasmin TV. How the fuck multibillion company can't find money for their stupid tv from another source?!
the fundamental mistake they made (among many others) is their belief that models are interested in going the professional route via TV, Physical contact porn and fame of any kind whatsoever.
The reality is, we are not. This is nothing more than an income for 90% of us, that will hopefully help us start our own businesses outside of porn, pay for our educations, clear our debts or generally just improve the quality of our lives.
Not like i care. i don't work there even..... but fuck em. First camming website (felt like a damn prostitute) some guy was like "punch your pussy. over and over. harder..."
I left the show and was "sanctioned" for it.
never. again.
oh yeah!! and it was at a forced 1.99/min rate too annnnd with a 30 percent cut!!
LiveJasmins dick smells like cheese. That is all.
Why bother petitioning them? just move to a site that pays decent rates and has paying traffic....
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Petitions are pointless. If they cared about performers they wouldn't pay out the way they do & treat performers so badly in general. The owner brags about the money he makes in world wide publications all the time. He is a BILLIONAIRE on way to many 30% of $1.99 which is a step up from NOT to long ago of 99Cents.
He does not care about petitions or you. Move onto other sites, take your camming else where. A petition when he has control over your pay check, resides in Hungary, majority of the performers work out of 3rd world studios that do as he says. Even with a petition, you won't be able to get 1% of the performers to sign it, nor nearly enough to make any difference.
Only way for old school cam sites like this to change is for more & more performers to leave them for better cam sites that pay more & fair contracts.
Sam
It is surprising that even top models on on are petitioning as well but they may just cut a deal with those models to keep them silent... I did decent on on but I left after the pic requirements... And as you all have said the cost omers will find you! It took about 5 months but li guys are finding me on LCMs and getting shows :D which brings me to another point I'm seeing a lot on lj girls switching to indie sites still with there studio so maybe studio owners are seeing they could make more off there girls having them go indie
Just go to a new site.
Your signature though! Lmao!
Lol I guess the next thing LJ introduces will be letting the member decide how much to pay for the show based on the model's performance.
Really though. They want you to have regularly updated professional photos, cam in a luxury interior, and what do they offer? 30% of 1.99 and the cheap entitled viewers they encourage to abuse you in every possible way? Not worth it.
Really?! That's where we ended up on this site, to petition for another 25 cents they are taking away?! Well if you are going to petition, maybe petition for a sneak preview to be payed on your chosen price, since now they pay $1 for a full minute and you get like 0.25 cents on it. Members do not go pvt on here because they can have you for a $1 trough this feature all day. Now they will have us for free all day. yay I can not count the ways how this site is abusing it's workers. Let me try to count the ways also:
Petition to have our check payed out on the full amount, as they don't pay out cents on our checks. One of the many ways to milk our earnings.
Petition to be payed on a full minute, not seconds. Forget the minute men, how about 3 seconds bb.
Petition the ban feature to last longer than "until you next log in"
Petition to mute guests.
Petition for fair ratings only after privates of certain minutes. Can you imagine the abuse?
Petition for a less personally invasive broadcasting software. When the admin can come in your computer and starts adjusting color,light and contrast in your logitech software, i'm kinda uneasy about that.
Petition for a fair chance to succeed on site, as of now we are cherry picked what page we are displayed on, depending on the mood the admin is in. Proof: one day i was at wits end and asked admin why i have no business, so he said he doesn't know, but suddenly my room count on guest went up from 5 guest to 200 guests. What button did you push mister admin?
Petition against power abusive admins. As of now they are manually adjusting between Poor and Bad quality and as a result earning percentage, as they please, and after you contact them they put you back on Good, on same specs, only to be taken away the next day, mind you at the same time ?! Every day? I think i'm put on "auto lowering 10% of my earnings until you have a lovely chat with Admin feature" etc. Again, of course, one of the many ways to milk our earnings :)
Petition for same percentage for earnings either they take us in private from free chat or members chat. As of now another way of milking our earnings.
Of course do not petition. I'm being sarcastic about petition.
You could petition a site that respect you, not a site who think we are slave sex robots. Do not lower yourself begging for another few cents they are taking away. Make your stand and leave the site.
However i do appreciate you speaking up for fair treatment. Continue doing that. Thank you.
I don't think LJ will give a rat's ass about models leaving unless new girls stop coming. Their recruiting campaign is huge and even though many models leave them pretty soon there always are new ones to replace them. What they will probably do is bribe the top models so they stay with them and just keep recruiting new girls who don't even know getting paid for sneak peeks has ever been a thing. I personally don't believe in the petition but it would be great to spread the word so people think twice before signing up with their shady business.
I didn't know the software gave them access to my camera settings and I'm creeped out. Who knows what else they could gain access to.
The petition is just a way to keep us Ho's happy. Good pimps can always do that.
I'm a happy ho, daddy got me a summer fur so I'm going to stay at daddy's side for a bit longer.
I make bus fare from peeks honestly, like a 1 way trip per mouth, so I could give a shit.
If it really burdens your souls, their most likely doing it because peeks are costing too much money and daddy needs that money to do.. whatever billionaires do with money.
There is a way to get lifetime free peeks ( or until its told or discovered). I was truly not looking, thinking or planning, I was just so stupid 1 day that I stupidly discovered it and I kept being stupid for days afterwards and if you get where I'm going, it takes a stupid person to figure it out so free loaders have been on to it since day one.
And this is not the only site that has this loop hole sm and f4f has it as well.
But anyways, my theory towards that is since we get paid for the peeks regardless however daddy doesn't get a cut of the $0 peeks and he doesn't like that very much.
So we are being told the dream; Daddy is gonna get us that big house on the hills and were all gonna be so happy when we move in, no more hoing, just one big happy family but in order to make that happen we have to help Daddy out.So who is willing to help out to make the dream happen?
The decision has already been made. We're just waiting for the day the announce it
All sites have access to your cam and mic (if you have) , when you first start to stream a little box comes up, for me its a box with a little webcam and mic, and it ask can the site have access to X,Y and Z and when you clicked yes ( if you have ever been online before at which ever site) you gave them access, if you click no, your cam/mic wouldn't turn, you would just be live with a black screen.
and it also has a a part were you can choice to answer the box every time or just that once.
I always unplug my camera after I'm done working and I have my built in camera with paper over it...
So basically keeping freeloaders happy, that is the new business model now? Take peek away then, if it hurts daddy. I mean what does daddy expect, that the freeloader will get a conscience one day? I get it, they need the freeloader traffic to show any traffic, to make members, performers and studios stay and pray.
I have no energy to care anymore.
You are right Busygirl, we could have petition for every bullshit we go through on LJ.
I am sure u already know that we models are not equal on Lj and what i mean by that is...if admins likes you, he will sneakily gives you some sneak peaks $$$...
And another thing is, LJ made redundant about 90% of their employees since the beginning of 2015. And since the whole sneak peak bullshit LJ already have lost around 150 girls.
I dont think this sounds like a company who is apparently worth xxx amount of billion dollars.
So..I am looking into working on a different site and going through all the info here, but i am so overwhelmed with info and i have no idea which site to choose from. So be prepared for invasion of girls from LJ.
^^ oh dear god.
This is apart of the plan on pretty much every site. Especially Streamate. If you use geo restrictions you are then removed from their marketing sites. At least this is what they say. Your traffic will die. Members who are not logged in will not be able to see you. These sites want us to entice the customers enough to add a credit card. At least have a card on file. Block one city and you disappear. Many countries that we know will never pay can't be blocked because so many of them populate the sites. It makes it look busier than it really is. That's how they get that google juice.
Flirt4Free,Cams,Streamate,Naked,blah blah blah all the same. Many of those things that you complained about in that petition happens everywhere else. Cam4,MFC,Chaturbate token sites too. LJ is pretty fucked up but no camsite is perfect imo. You just have to figure out how the game is played and then use it to your own advantage. Maybe it's time you tried indy camming? Start doing your own promotions and marketing. This way you won't get so angry or shocked when the Big Daddy Camsites make changes. And I totally meant this in a non-snarky way. Right now I just don't have time reword things. Good Luck
You can't ask for geo blocking & expect them to market you. They don't for a reason, so you can stay anonymous. Affiliates aka marketing do NOT do Geo-blocking at ALL! They promote everywhere.
Companies can't go performer by performer & geo area by area in whom they can or can't market. Want your life to be private yet make money on cam that comes with the territory when you do geo-blocking. I don't understand why anyone would complain about that, cause it was your choice.
NO affiliate wants to geo-block & cut potential sales. They are just doing their job, I don't see why one would angry over it.
Smooches,
Sam