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Asking for tips after a dance..?
I have been a dancer for a long time and I'm good at asking for long dances and extending dances with customers, but I don't feel very comfortable asking for a straight out tip after the dance has finished. Would dancers please give me some tips on the way you would ask for a tip? Is this something you would only ask if it had been a really 'good' dance?
Thanks xx
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^ You can- but its pretty uncommon in Australia. I have done it on occasion but only when my intuition told me to... I know clubs that will outright tell you not to ask for tips.
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I tried it yesterday, I said 'if you liked my dance tips are appreciated' and he said ' oh,your very business' even though I stayed chatting with him a bit after the dance. I think he was just cheap though.
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"That'll be $30 and tips are always appreciated *smile* "
Pick your battles though. Don't do it on the guy who just spent $400 and has the potential to come back regularly... you might put him off, and then you got an extra $20 this time, but he won't be back to give you another $300 next week.
I mostly think to ask for tips when it's $10 dances on the main floor, because people that buy those in my club aren't usually going to be my regulars and thus I do not care if I offend them... they've already semi-offended me with a $10 dance... *grumbles*
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It's usually best to prime the customer for a tip before you even get to the back. So, when you're explaining the prices: "It's $x and tips are always appreciated." I recall seeing a few threads on here with cutesy tip lines, so maybe run a search through Hustle Hut for those.
I'm in Canada, and similarly to what FD said, find that tipping isn't really a thing here. I don't ask for tips often because I do find it rubs some guys the wrong way, especially when they've dropped a lot of cash like Selina mentioned. So, they may give a tip but they won't turn into a regular, and I'd rather have them come back than make an extra $5. Depending on their personality, if they ask for the total at the end of our dances I'll use the "It's $x and tips are always appreciated" line though. I think it's a pretty US-specific custom to tip strippers, so I will often suggest a tip with American customers.
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I try to say it all the time especially if you know they've got the cash.
I've found that if they are asked and they have some cash they will give it. I usually say something along the lines of 'Why don't you show me how much you enjoyed our dance/time together by giving me a tip. If you do its 100% to me and Ill love you forever, give you a hug and kiss (on cheek) blah blah'
If they ask 'how much?' ill say whatever your comfortable with, because unfortunately people get awkward/embarrassed if they don't have the money on them. This is problematic though because some will be tight arses and only give you a small tip, but a small taunt can increase it.
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When they ask how much they owe you at the end of the dance /dances, I always say "it's $x and whatever you would like to tip." Low pressure but frames it in a way that makes it sound like tipping is customary and expected. Works for me 50% of the time in the dive bar and about 80% of the time when I worked in a nicer place.
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I never ask for tips after a dance unless the guy was an asshole (like a half-hour of fending off grasping hands and inhaling poo-breath) and / or has no regular potential.
Some clubs are set up for high-pressure hustles (Las Vegas, New Orleans), and if you're entertaining a high-roller, then there's no harm in using a low-pressure line. This also might be an option in clubs that have very high customer turnover (again, tourist towns like Vegas) where you'll never see 99% of these customers again, or they aren't likely to remember you.
It's my experience that asking for a tip on top of a dance is rarely taken well by customers. They've just dropped $20-40 for only a few minutes of your time, so asking for additional money can seem very, very greedy. If you're a big fish in a tiny pond, then perhaps you can demand a premium on top of the base price. But in most clubs, you run the risk of turning off potential regulars and other average spenders. I'd rather a regular come see me and drop $100 every other week than have a customer spend $100 + $20 tip on me and never come see me again.
In conclusion, it's a gamble. There's no right or wrong answer to the "Should I ask for a tip?" question. It just depends on your club and situation.
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I would say i do get a tip most times I ask. I never ask forcefully though, always just a gentle reminder because I really do believe they might be quite distracted to remember to tip. I always collect my money up front and when he's done with his dances I say something along the lines of "thanks, babe! I hope you loved my dance and if so don't forget to tip!" *smile* I always make sure to ask too before my tits are put away ;)
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I think it could just be my club, but I ALWAYS ask for a tip. At the end of the dance, I say "since you enjoyed my dance so much, could you tip me?" I always say it in a sweet voice. Even if a guy tips me $20, I ask for more. Again in a very sweet voice. I hear girls say it's $XXX for the VIP and a $XXX tip for me. I should also mention that I live in an affluent tourist city in the US. Also, house takes the first $120-$200 I make, then 30% thereafter, so I have to ask for tips.
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It's interesting to me, but I've just started dancing at night at a new club (a sister club to my old club, but more upscale) and there I almost always get tips on dances without having to ask for it. Nearly always $20, no matter how many dances we did. I'm thrilled about it, but I don't think I would really ask for it in most situations. Like others have said, the only situations I generally fish for tips are when it's been a struggle dancing for this person--they've either been really handsy or have wasted a lot of my time talking or demanding my attention without compensating me (like guys who want me to sit on their laps and want to touch me, etc, but then won't pony up for dances--I'll definitely ask them to compensate me). I don't do it to people who I value as customers. I generally work a more "girlfriend experience" angle, and I think asking for more money from them kind of destroys the illusion.
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All I say is "that'll be (insert how much they owe here) and that's without the tip" lol pretty straight forward but works for me
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It blows my mind that so many of you get tips on dances. I mean, by definition, a guy should never tip $20 on a $20 dance - he should just buy another dance with that money!
Weird.
Must be a regional thing...
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I usually ask for tips before the dance if there's an opening. Usually the guy will say "How much is a dance?" and I say "$30 and tips are always welcome. :)" Another thing I've been doing....Single dances are $30 and most guys pay with $40 and a lot ask for change, but before they can ask for change I say "Omg! Thank you for tipping me!! That's so sweet!!! You're the best!!" and hug them. Then they just let me keep it Haha
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I think this is a cultural thing. It sounds like it's born in some parts of the world. But for australian clubs, it's best to ask for a high dance price at the start and be happy working for that. If I was feeling Really confident, tipsy, or only wanted to deal with the customer this one time only I might 'milk' him for a cheeky tip, but I think most customers on Australia wouldn't be into it, seeing as tipping is not a bit part of our culture.
That being said, I have one dancer girl friend who always drinks at work, and she regularly asks for tips at the end of dances. Xx
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Re: Asking for tips after a dance..?
I think this is a cultural thing. It sounds like it's born in some parts of the world. But for australian clubs, it's best to ask for a high dance price at the start and be happy working for that. If I was feeling Really confident, tipsy, or only wanted to deal with the customer this one time only I might 'milk' him for a cheeky tip, but I think most customers on Australia wouldn't be into it, seeing as tipping is not a bit part of our culture.
That being said, I have one dancer girl friend who always drinks at work, and she regularly asks for tips at the end of dances. Xx
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If I gave a good dance and he was into it, I would always flirt and request a tip if he enjoyed himself. I never had someone decline and it often meant an extra $1-$50 depending on the customer!
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Every single time. That will be $XXX and whatever you'd like to tip me! If I get out of the habit of saying it, it doesn't roll off as smoothly and naturally. It selling 100% normal and just "standard procedure" is what makes it work so well I think.
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I always ask for tips after dances, unless its from a trip to VIP, that would be rude. I've noticed the cheap guys are always like " Oh your one of those girls " My usual response to that is either " Well im trying to get my boobs done " Which ive noticed makes them tip a bit more or " Hair like this is not cheap "
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I always "ask" for tips after dances. When they're getting their wallet out and start paying me what they already owe me and I have it in my hand while they're still holding their wallet I just say "and a little extra, thanks" with a stupid giggle. Works every time, you just gotta know how to make it fun and playful.
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I wonder if a cheeky approach could work well for some of us. Like "That's $40, with a cherry on top!" Or some other euphemism for a tip that sounds...nice?
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The line 'that'll be $xx and gentlemen tip' has always worked for me. It really is all about delivery and practice.
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Here's my best strategy:
1. Put it in their head before the dance. When it's over and they're all worked up they are already frustrated, and asking for more will likely leave them feeling even more so, even though you did your job well.
2. Make the tip about them. Instead of implying "tip me if you like the dance," I often say, "it's $10 for a table dance, and you can tip if you're feeling generous" with a wink. That way, the tip is a positive reinforcement of their character.
3. Always, always, say thank you graciously (barring bad behavior from them, then totally stand up for yourself), and ask if they'd like you to swing by again later. If a guy sticks around and doesn't seem to be getting lots of other dances, I can usually get a repeat customer 50% of the time, and at least half of those times I'll get a tip the second time around even if I didn't get one to begin with just for remembering to come back and making them feel remembered.
Good luck!
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Re: Asking for tips after a dance..?
Here's my best strategy:
1. Put it in their head before the dance. When it's over and they're all worked up they are already frustrated, and asking for more will likely leave them feeling even more so, even though you did your job well.
2. Make the tip about them. Instead of implying "tip me if you like the dance," I often say, "it's $10 for a table dance, and you can tip if you're feeling generous" with a wink. That way, the tip is a positive reinforcement of their character.
3. Always, always, say thank you graciously (barring bad behavior from them, then totally stand up for yourself), and ask if they'd like you to swing by again later. If a guy sticks around and doesn't seem to be getting lots of other dances, I can usually get a repeat customer 50% of the time, and at least half of those times I'll get a tip the second time around even if I didn't get one to begin with just for remembering to come back and making them feel remembered.
Good luck!