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TIME SENSITIVE! Pain in the Ass Fee for Messy Custom Vid
I'm hoping to get a quick reply for this - I have a potential custie on the line that wants paint, sticky food, and wax in my hair. 30 min vid.
I normally charge $10/min for customs, but seeing as how this is so messy, what do you feel is a fair uptick on the price/min for the hassle of getting that shit out of my hair?
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What kind of wax? I hope it's not the kind you use to wax unwanted hair???
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no no
I mentioned candle wax and he seems to be cool with that
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I'm not sure how long your hair is, I have super longer hair so I would charge $15 a minute for all that aftermath!
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Thanks, mine is super long :)
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I would say at least a thousand because you will have to shave your head and get a good quality wig. House paint does not come out of hair. Wax you'll have to heat up to remove and when it is mixed with paint and food it will make those substances harder to remove. Sticky foods like honey contain peroxides and may bleach your hair when heated.
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I would recommend putting a wig OVER your real hair and a bathing cap.
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Thats a straight up degradation fetish-masked in a "wet & messy" fetish.
Charge high for that.
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Eeek
No, the man loves my real hair so I doubt he'd be okay with a wig.
I don't mind the bleaching so much but I'm sure I could figure out foods (strawberry syrup, etc). I was thinking of actually going for $20/min because my hair is so long and I'd be okay with the long process of getting the wax out. I can also try and do the wax last so that maybe it'd hit the cold foods and freeze there making it easier. What do you mean by house paint not coming out of hair? Perhaps there's some other kind?
Finally, he straight up called it hair degradation, so at least he's upfront as long as there isn't really long term damage, right?
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Good I am glad to hear at least he is honest about his own intention.
He wont even know that you arent using house paint. Just get an acrylic art type paint with a "house paint" can for effect.
You are selling a fantasy so use creativity there is no reason to full on ruin your looks for money.
There WILL be longterm damage, that is what his fetish wants- he has picked things that WILL damage your hair.
Degradation moves towards a more serious tone than a fetish involving non permanaent changes like "humiliation" etc.
Either do a "creative" version of his fantasy
or charge him $2000 to straight up have to shave your head afterwards.
His fetish is not easily found, no one will be willing to do this so make damn sure you get a major pay day babe xo
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coconut oil is great for getting wax out of you hair.
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Hmmmm... he never said house paint. He specifically said humiliation, so I do think that he wouldn't mind if it didn't cause permanent damage, I just don't think he'd be a reliable source for things that wouldn't fuck my hair up. Maybe I can do a test run on a tiny strip of hair.
:/ I feel like this could be a payday while still keeping my hair but we'll see. If anyone is interested, I can always do an update too on how it goes.
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I would charge like a thousand bucks for something like that, and I would nix the paint unless you can find something easy to remove, like colored hair gel or washable kid paint.
As for 'sticky foods', I would go with things like frosting, jelly, peanut butter- things that look bad but really won't take as much work to remove. The wax is going to be a pain no matter what. If you don't have any of these things, I would also charge him for materials.
Maybe I'm being too strict, though! Damaged hair gives me nightmares.
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Fetishists know exactly what they want-he will want you to ham it up like your hair is "ruined forever" etc.
Thats what I mean't.
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Insist on using kids acrylic paint. It's also water bourne like most house paints, but a million times easier wash up. I use to work with paint, I'm telling you right now getting that in your hair and letting it dry even a little bit will be a nightmare to get it out.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy knows exactly what he is doing and wants you to ruin your hair one way or another. I would totally ditch this guy. Not worth it!
Side note, you guys know who he reminds me of? Baby powder guy from SM... y'all know exactly who/what I mean!!
*baby powder bb* ... 2 min later... *aww is your room completely destroyed? ahaha oh well bye!*
Oh! And edit.. using candle wax on your head? Safety first lady! The last thing you want to do is set yourself on fire. Seriously, how are you planning on pulling this off? And best case scenario your hair is going to be broken/damaged to shit. This is the worst idea ever. RUN RUN RUN!!
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Is this indy by any chance? I had a guy just like this (via CMD I believe), he said he'd buy me a blender (he wanted all sorts of food and things in my hair), agreed to my modifications, agreed to my price, etc then disappeared. I know a lot of other girls here have had him too. The theory is that he wants us to fuck up our hair so bad that we have to cut/shave it. If this isn't indy and/or is a good regular then disregard this but if it's the same guy he is definitely a timewaster.
Personally my hair is a huge part of my look so paint, wax (hellllll no), etc is out of the question. But if it's something that could be cleaned up with a couple shampoos and isn't likely to permanently damage your hair then $15/min or so seems reasonable.
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Oh.. and while on the subject of wet and messy food fetish.. the last time I did this (like 4 years ago!!) with random food I almost threw up. The guy had me use pudding and campbells cream of broccoli neck down in the shower. The smell was so disgusting and gnarly that I almost threw up. My boyfriend did not step ten feet near me after that as I could not scrub my body enough, and the smell in the bathroom would not go away either. It was like my bathtub drain was having ghost burps of vomit. Be careful when you mix random foods.
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Prussia
I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy knows exactly what he is doing and wants you to ruin your hair one way or another. I would totally ditch this guy. Not worth it!
This. He is just getting off on you ruining your hair because of him, and probably not even for a sexual kick but for a sick, psychological one/for a laugh. I'd turn him down.
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Even if you can manage to find good dupes for the more damaging items (paint and wax would be the worst obviously but I feel like there could be a way to fake it) you need to consider the TIME you're going to spend and the MONEY you're going to spend. How much is it going to cost to get all the supplies? How much will it cost to remove all that shit from your hair? How much will the potential trip to the salon afterwards cost? And how long is all of that going to take?!
I have a feeling that procrasturbator is right and this guy is just getting off on talking about it with you. But if it turns out that he is serious, make sure you don't end up LOSING money by doing the video. If it takes three hours to wash your hair afterward, would you have been better off just getting on cam or making a couple vanilla videos? Time is money!
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I feel like I've talked to this guy before and as soon as I quote a price he tells me he'll be right back to pay me and then never comes back. It could be a different guy but it sounds very similar.
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Offer an outrageous price straight up- he would struggle to find anyone anywhere to fulfill this fetish. Can't see him getting a wife or GF who would ever have said yes to this one! No more talking and negotiating with him until he puts some money down Like another poster said, he's prob already getting off on the talking about it.
Im a dancer though so I may be wrong but there are some commonalities across our job and timewasting guys who want the world for a buck are one of them.
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I really wouldn't consider doing this at all...if you damage your hair, it would take a very long time to grow back.
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Wouldn't do it myself, but if i was even considering it, rather than think about xyz i would make sure he was genuine first, worst case scenario your gonna lose your long locks how much to you is worth losing your hair, go back to him with the price YOU are willing to lose it for, get the MONEY and if he is a no go end of conversation.
Some guys will pay a lot for there true fetish even 10k to me would not be worth me shaving my hair off.
like others have said, you can get some kiddy paint etc but the wax jezz the hassle, surprised he has not asked you have chewing gum put in your hair too........it would be a nope for me.
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have a look on some WAM and sploshing forums for tried and tested ideas xx
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Have you heard back from him?