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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
Nocturnelle
"Streamate is dying" "this is the end of camming" "OMG the traffic is disappearing"
Blah blah blah. People have been saying this for YEARS since I first stared camming almost four years ago. It's always the ones who get on cam, work 2 hours and then bitch about it being slow. Stick it out, don't put all your eggs in one basket and if something isn't working maybe it's YOU that needs to change.
I hate these posts.
If you hate these types of posts why even read them or post in them?
Sure some models probably have only worked 2 hours but I highly doubt every single model that has been complaining about SM these last few months only work 2 hours a day. I don't understand the sentiment of "it's you" when tons of models and customers have been complaining about the site these last few months. I could understand blaming individuals if like 1-10 were complaining but there's at least 50+ models who've complained.
I also understand not wanting venting posts in threads like the main SM, Adultwork, Niteflirt etc threads but I don't understand why its seem to always be an issue to have threads like this one and camming sucks. Over the years I've read similar posts to yours and I'm just wondering why its such a problem for some to vent? I'm not trying to be catty I'm seriously wondering why some of you feel this way.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
brittany_bitch
thank you all for chiming in :) So it seems that on the front page there is some traffic but more glitching and on the 2nd and 3rd for me no traffic at all and also perfect feed no glitches lol so weird
I have a decrease in traffic, but no excl glitches. I sit in a fucking empty room sometimes. I'm almost top row first page. I don't get it.
Also, I didn't get my direct deposit. That's twice now this month. WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING???!!!!
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
Sometimes sites DO DIE, i witnessed at least a few of them going downhill & die in my 15 years being on cam so yeah, it can happen.
Of course that sites are not out of business completely, they still have high earners making money on there but they are just a handful, the majority left/moved to other sites, struggle or splitcam but these sites are not a good option anymore especially for the average cammer.
Is the same on SM, a handful of models are still doing good but the majority feel a decline, if u are fortunate & still do good at least dont jump on the ones complaining about SM while posting IN THE RIGHT THREAD.
I mean "YOU" in general, people who have the need to show us what great models they are & how they know to do business & know how to work more eggs & such.
Very good for you, i am happy if u succeed with ur cam business this way but some of us really have not that many options due to not being accepted on all sites because we live in certain parts of the world, cant do phone-sex or other related stuff also due to location or language barrier, not work some sites cause we dont find them lucrative for us or we are not okay with their payment methods, there are many reasons of why we cant juggle with soo many eggs in our baskets, is not that easy when u only have very little options/ sites to work on.
The "It's you" card is soo cliche-ish, seriously.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
Nocturnelle
"Streamate is dying" "this is the end of camming" "OMG the traffic is disappearing"
Blah blah blah. People have been saying this for YEARS since I first stared camming almost four years ago. It's always the ones who get on cam, work 2 hours and then bitch about it being slow. Stick it out, don't put all your eggs in one basket and if something isn't working maybe it's YOU that needs to change.
I hate these posts.
I know where you're coming from and I agree with you for the most part. But at the same time, you're not really being fair. I get it -- YOU are doing well on cam. Congrats! But that doesn't invalidate the experiences of others. I've been there. There have been times I've been KILLING it on cam and then I come to SW to see that every other poster is complaining about lack of traffic, bemoaning the state of camming and talking about how it's all going down hill... it all comes across as unnecessarily negative, pointless whining. What are they complaining about, after all, camming is good for ME so if they're not doing well, it must be a problem with THEM. They're just not working hard enough, or they need to hustle differently, or try a different site, etc.
But then it happened to me. Do YOU honestly think that if your income plummeted 60% in a short amount of time for no discernible reason, if all of a sudden you found yourself sitting for hours every day staring at a completely empty room despite having a good connection, a good cam, the highest encoder settings, and decent placement, if most of your regulars disappeared and it feels like pulling teeth just to get a freakin 40 second private when, in the past, it used to be back-to-back? If all that happened to you, would you be able to just shrug your shoulders and "get over it" without worrying or needing to vent? Nah, you'd probably be pretty upset, and you'd be in here bitching along with the rest of us.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
The argument should be irrelevant because this is the place for those kinds of posts. It's like walking into a hardware store and complaining that they don't sell rotisserie chickens.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
And sometimes you have to consider the source. Full time sm models treat this job as a business. I've taken notes on every hour and day I work since i started 5 years ago. I have all my notebooks to prove and see Sm is declining. Actually Sm feels more like when I first started camming and on page 2 and 3. Yea I still make good money but I am sitting in free longer and there is less paying traffic.. yea there is traffic but not paying traffic. Just luckers. And when you speak to them they leave. I went from $ 80 day shift and $100 night shift per hour down now to $60 per hour inthe last several weeks.. I don't do GS and yes I have other eggs but when a leader in the camming world declines models take notice. Especially full time models. The paying traffic isn't there anymore and models that don't include Gs income or don't do GS for the last 4 to 6 weeks are only in paid chat 40% or less. Actually I was told in the last several weeks, averages in paid chat was 25 to 29%. The numbers don't lie!
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.
I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
kortneykay
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.
I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.
I don't know her. But I do think that some of these anti-venting post are very trollish. And I want to add that many of the responses to that particular post were very kind and measured. People are just talking. This is a catharsis for many of us. I don't talk to many behind the scenes i keep it small and it's gonna get even smaller. But I suspect that many of the people who do post here are not miserable or struggling everyday. You post it and then you move on. Now I can post anywhere I would like to on Stripperweb but that does not mean I should. I'm mature enough to know that maybe I shouldn't say this to a bunch of people who may or may not be in despair. And I really hope that we can continue talking without this going into a downward spiral resulting into catty comments and a thread lock.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
maybe we need a thread about the posts we hate? LOL
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
Has it been deadsville for anyone else the past 2 days or is it just me....After having a few great weeks I guess its time for SM to shit on me.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
One day I hate SM the next I love it. I just try and find humor in everything. It gets me through the slow times when I want to pull my hair out.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
JessRyan
maybe we need a thread about the posts we hate? LOL
I think there's a thread somewhere that consist of the greatest trolls of all time? Im with you. Im a silly person and love to crack jokes. But I also root for the underdog.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
Susperia
Has it been deadsville for anyone else the past 2 days or is it just me....After having a few great weeks I guess its time for SM to shit on me.
Tag you're it
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
I'm getting a ton of guys with a simple short username and ending with 4 numbers? Like a TON of them. In out in out..
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
JessRyan
I'm getting a ton of guys with a simple short username and ending with 4 numbers? Like a TON of them. In out in out..
at least it isn't the sdsdt756767 , shdsudh78787 , djfidjfwwwww00 , and 78rhsdhsdsjd names that took over recently... Now it's like the names you mentioned that never speak. bizarre.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
So many icky peepers today ewwwww
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
Yeah I had a streak of guys in a row just demanding I show my tits for free. And in exactly that way, too. "Show your tits for free." Ummmm, no?
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
JessRyan
I'm getting a ton of guys with a simple short username and ending with 4 numbers? Like a TON of them. In out in out..
I got A LOT of that today along with random letters in a name which I call right out.
fwyqzautsc has logged in.
"Hi fwyqzautsc!!!!"
fwyqzautsc has logged off.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
kortneykay
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.
I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.
I love you kk, but I have to disagree with your logic. The title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" so logically this would not include venting about other people's venting. If it was then the thread would be called " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing Site Issues AND Your Issues About Girls Who Have Streamate Issues" ;)
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Originally Posted by
kortneykay
I want to say something concerning the backlash over Nocturnelle's post. Firstly, if you don't know her personally, you don't know if she's doing well on cam or not. It's within her right to post in any forum she chooses whether you agree or disagree with her posts just like each and every one of us here. Secondly, the title says " STREAMATE- Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues" Which means it's perfectly fine to vent about people venting about not making money on SM.
I get that it's frustrating to work and not receive full compensation but that's the risk we take as independent contractors and we knew this when we signed up. It's awesome to have cam bbs and coworkers who can sympathize when things are bad but I'm seeing a lot of venting and complaining threads and no one is offering any solutions. My solution is to put in more hours, more baskets, and serial split cam like a mofo. With that I'll leave you all to carry on and I wish you the very best. Nothing wrong with venting or complaining as long as there is a solution eventually otherwise it makes you feel better but fixes nothing.
Um, venting is not about offering solutions. Venting is about....well, venting. Problem-solving is about offering solutions.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
It annoys me when you talk about camming on social media and SM performers always think you're talking about them. Damn there are other sites out there
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
Omg Audri. That is so ridiculous. Just reading it made me want to rip my hair out.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
^^ I have had promoters for that same camgirl, have had the same issues with support. I just gave up, didn't try as hard as you because UGH.
Also how damn disorganized that they can't find someone by their name! Seriously, make guys pick unique screennames, it's not rocket science.
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Re: STREAMATE - Venting, Complaining, Discussing site issues
I refuse to let someone piggyback my traffic that I worked so hard to get.