I've lost my touch or times are changing. Help me spot THEM
I am no longer to spot the "whale" or the men who intend on spending their money. I look for expensive watches, clothing, their car keys to see what they drive....I sit with them, they buy me a drink but don't want dances and don't tip for my time. It ends up being the guy in the scuzzy baseball cap and windbreaker pants that buys 3 dances and tips me a $50 on top of it. ????? How do I have this ass backwards? I tried choosing from stage based on who made the most eye contact with me or smiled the most but that doesn't work either. It's the guys who stare down at their phones the whole time who grab me when walking by and ask me for a dance!
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Ugh I never make a lot of money off of guys dressing flashy. In my experience, guys dressed to impress do this to attract a dancer's attention, not spend money on her. My best spenders are men in their 30's-50's dressed respectable, yet casual.
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littlelizard
Ugh I never make a lot of money off of guys dressing flashy. In my experience, guys dressed to impress do this to attract a dancer's attention, not spend money on her. My best spenders are men in their 30's-50's dressed respectable, yet casual.
Yup, a few shifts ago I had a guy with the blingiest watch I have ever seen pull lambo keys out of his pocket before.... one dance. Literally got one dance from only me and then left. Big spender.
Honestly I try to just talk to everybody- a "scuzzy" looking guy may be willing to blow his paycheck on a girl he falls in love with, while a guy that reeks of money may turn out to be a total timewaster because he expects to get the celebrity treatment.
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A lot of these guys who are dressed flashy and bragging about their fancy car etc. don't spend a lot of money, or just buy champagne to impress, we had a group of these the other day, lots of bling, buying champagne and bottle of top vodka, talking about VIP, then they literally bottled out at the last minute and left without having any dances. The thing is they spend all their (little) money to look good and impress their friends and other people in the club so they think they are rich, it doesn't mean they actually have money. A lot of the guys we get in who have money are in tracksuits and beanie hats!
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SuperJa
Yup, a few shifts ago I had a guy with the blingiest watch I have ever seen pull lambo keys out of his pocket before.... one dance. Literally got one dance from only me and then left. Big spender.
Honestly I try to just talk to everybody- a "scuzzy" looking guy may be willing to blow his paycheck on a girl he falls in love with, while a guy that reeks of money may turn out to be a total timewaster because he expects to get the celebrity treatment.
so true.
I wish I had a laser beam that could signal when there's a guy with money ready to spend said money. The rich self absorbed guys are the ones who are actually cheap cause like you mentioned they are used to people giving them things for free, meals comped, etc. just for being them. These guys are classic users all they do is take.
The only way I can tell if they're going to spend is if I'm vibing with them and they are tipping well. Sometimes I like to peek into their wallet (don't let them see me looking) so I can easily ballpark how much I can push them to spend with me. Though most guys who have been to the club are savvy and try to hide their wallet/money from view.
And don't let a guy brag about his career with me cause if he's not spending based on what someone in that field earns I question his manhood. Like quit being a p*ss worrying about losing/spending money when you're going to make it all back tomorrow anyways.
I prefer the rich guys who are nerdy and submissive. Finding these guys is like finding a diamond in the rough but worth it cause they help make stripping feel like a pleasant job.
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It's definitely true that you can't judge a customer based on what he looks like. I just met a customer last week who literally looks homeless and is missing his two front teeth and is a cook. I don't think any other dancers that I work with approach him because he looks like he's completely broke and wouldn't spend anything. But he's been coming in when I work and just giving me money for nothing really in return. He even told me he wants to pay half my rent and is going to transfer it into my bank account each week lol. I think he just can't get a girlfriend so he wants a girl to talk to a few times during the week. Poor guy. But this definitely taught me not to judge any customers and to approach everyone. The brokest looking guys can end up spending even more than the ones who look flashy.
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It's not you, it's just that there really isn't a formula that way... sometimes you can get a vibe off someone that they've 'picked you' before you go over, or maybe that they're just free with money... but it's not based off their clothes or car keys.
I ignore guys in suits and/or ties for the most part. They always seem to have huge egos and get 2 dances max in exchange for listening to them blabber for 10 minutes. I often make the most off guys in casual clothes.
That's the thing about this business, you never freaking know. Just the other day, I had a guy where I was like "Ugh grouchy old man, time waster, wants to tip me on stage but rudely tells me maybe later when I approach". I didn't intend to check back, but he came back up to my stage again, asked for a dance, and then took me to VIP for half an hour. He turned out to be extremely sweet and said he had waved me off because he'd gotten sauce on his shirt (club serves lunch) and he was trying to cover it so I wouldn't see.
Case in point, you never know who is going to spend, who is truly a jerk or just putting up a front, etc. That's why we say to approach every customer.
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Most of the time I look for somebody who is dressed elegantly but not flashy,is sitting by himself (or has not more than 2 friends),isn't constantly buying drinks and looks inteligent(maybe that was a little over the top).
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Tailing off what everyone else said, suits and fancy watches don't mean shit. I'll say 8 times out of 10, they are time wasters who just want to sit and talk forever, or only buy one or two dances. They are all about the perception of having money, but they don't actually want to spend it.
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I think it's really less about the superficial signs of wealth and more about the chemistry you're able to develop with a given customer. For example, I knew a Ferrari-driving surgeon (aka $$$$$) who would only do $20 dances, no tip, and refused to do VIP with anyone. Contrast that with all the middle- and working-class customers I've had who have tipped me 50% or more on hundreds of dollar spent in VIP.
The difference is that I couldn't quite manage to get into the surgeon's head for whatever reason, whereas with the other customers, I'm able to build excellent rapport. Just because someone has tons of money doesn't mean you can always get them to spend it, sadly.
I try to focus less on expensive shoes and more on who laughs at my jokes and keeps up with my banter. It's been a way better recipe for success.
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I analyze his behavior first. Then his drink. I tend to avoid beer guzzlers, but not all...I've banked with some. Sure, a flashy attire will make me look at the guy, but it all comes down to what I said previously.
Also, guys who ass gets kissed by hosts.
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Stay away from expensive suits, fancy watches and expensive cars. There's a reason they have all that, they're not stupid enough to give away too much money to strippers. Average Joe on the other hand doesn't know the value of a dollar and will gladly cough up his whole pay check, he's used to eating noodles and drinking cheap beer, realizing he'll never be a millionaire so what the heck why not spend it all on this super hot stripper and have the time of his life!
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I do not pay ANY attention to what someone is wearing or whether they're wearing a nice watch or nice shoes or blah blah blah. I approach everyone with the assumption that they might want to spend money on me, and I should give them a chance to do so. I've had five-foot-tall Mexicans give me far more money over the years than older, sugar-daddy-looking types. People surprise me all of the time. I'll approach some broke-ass-looking guys thinking to myself "Let's give 'er a go, just for funzies!" and end up selling them a half-hour room after a ten-second hustle. Happens all of the time.
I don't care about what someone MAKES; I care about how much they want to SPEND.