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For me, I like having both types of shows. In a private session I don't even take requests- so I definitely just do whatever feels best to me. In Exclusive- I like to at least have a little bit of an idea of what you (as the client) wants. I generally like to take the first couple of minutes and get to know you a little bit, and from there we can figure out what it is that turns you on, what turns me on etc. Even if it ends up with you telling me to do whatever feels best- it puts me at ease of mind knowing that I'm aware of certain things I can do that might make it that much more enjoyable to you.
There is also something to be said for not having to think in a session. If I'm in a session where a guy tells me exactly what they want and how the want it.. I know that I'm delivering a quality show, and it can almost be a balm to my mind in these types of shows because I can just let it go and trust in the fact that I don't have to overthink what's happening, and I can trust that you will keep it a quality experience for both of us. (Obviously that trust comes from talking beforehand, and repeat business)
I think at the end of the day, the main thing is that I stay in control of the situation. If the guy gives direction and I am uncomfortable, ending the show is just a simple click. :)
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I think "do what you want" is great, but what if I just want to sit there and have a glass of wine :)? Generally I like a little direction, or at least some conversation. It's surprising how many guys go pvt or excl and say absolutely nothing. It feels like a staring contest.
Personally I like role play with interaction, the more complicated the better. Or a fun chatty fuck session with a little direction. There's also a line of saying too much, for instance "harder! Faster!" leave that out of your vocabulary.
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As long as I'm getting paid, IDGAF
I do what ever I want in premium, but in exclusive I will take direction in exclusive (that I agree to).
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I think "do what you want" is great, but what if I just want to sit there and have a glass of wine :)? Generally I like a little direction, or at least some conversation. It's surprising how many guys go pvt or excl and say absolutely nothing. It feels like a staring contest.
Personally I like role play with interaction, the more complicated the better. Or a fun chatty fuck session with a little direction. There's also a line of saying too much, for instance "harder! Faster!" leave that out of your vocabulary.
Yes, girl. If they don't say anything I will literally sit there and stare at them until they at least acknowledge me.. I can't STAND that shit!
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Personally, I love the interaction. I have a 'set show' I'll go to if I don't get any request off course and I know not all camgirls like cam 2 cam or anything but for me I LOVE working cam 2 cam and getting a good idea of how to reach into someones fantasy. I am fascinated by human sexuality and fetishes all in all I kinda want us both to have fun. I want to delve deep into everyones pervy side and get a good peak. But that's me.
When it comes right down too it, I'm working a job so I want to make the customer happy as long as he isn't a complete prick I'm down for just about whatever
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Personally, I think some direction is better than none. Overall, I want to make my guys happy. It makes me feel good to know that I'm doing something they enjoy. The best customers are respectful, enthusiastic and engaged in the show. I really don't like being micro-managed or bossed around during the show, but I still prefer that over the guys who say NOTHING.
For example, I don't like it when guys type out dozens of short requests one right after the other without even giving me time to react. I mostly do domme shows, so bossy customers in general are just a turn-off to me. But I would still greatly prefer that over the guys who sit there silently, giving me zero feedback. It makes me worry that they're going to leave me a nasty review because I wasn't able to read their mind.
Camming is my job, and I want to do a GREAT job for my customers. I'm not concerned about whether or not I orgasm. I can do that just fine by myself on my own time. Help me help you and we'll both be happy. :)
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Yep! Exactly Scarlett! If you want to spend the time to wait and have me orgasm, that's awesome of you, but I've probably been fucking my pussy for the last 3 hours so there is the possibility your pocket book won't allow that....p.s., block sessions make that WAY more of a possibility, if I know you're not going to leave in 2 minutes it gives me the time to relax and enjoy (think 30 minutes, not 15)
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Kitcatt
I think "do what you want" is great, but what if I just want to sit there and have a glass of wine :)? Generally I like a little direction, or at least some conversation. It's surprising how many guys go pvt or excl and say absolutely nothing. It feels like a staring contest.
In all seriousness we'd probably have a nice conversation over the wine.
I guess the question comes up for me for a couple of reasons. First I wouldn't have a problem talking to the model but I would have a hard time typing directions, suggestions or "orders" without feeling somewhat selfconscious and awkward. In person I don't have any problem talking about what's working and what isn't when I'm having sex with someone I know but through a computer with someone I don't know it's a little different. It's kind of hard to explain but it probably is because I would find it very hard to objectify a model that I an interacting with. That's why I'm appalled, though not terribly surprised unfortunately, by some of the things that have been said by some of your customers. It's like watching an alien life form that I just can't quite get my head around.
Second I'm not necessarily physically getting off during the session, sometimes it's nice to just interact or watch and enjoy it. I'm not really interested in the idea of watching a cam model do what I want them to do, what I enjoy is the idea that a person that I am interacting with in real time is feeling pleasure at that precise moment. That is what makes it different for me from a pre-recorded video. IRL my relationships are fine, camming comes in as a hint of fantasy but, for me, slightly complicated by the fact that both sides are real people in real time.
The comments on the thread have been very helpful for me and I appreciate everyone that responded.
And for those that want to tell me that I'm really just overcomplicating this, I know, I'll work on it. :)
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You don't have to type direction or orders, but it's nice to get some feedback every few minutes so I know you're still there. Even just a simple compliment like "nice" or "sexy" or even just "mmm" (lol) puts my mind at ease that I haven't been thrown into some kind of limbo or there's a glitch going on (it's happened before).
Of course, I do plenty of shows with guys who never say a word and it's fine. But there's always a little worry in the back of my mind that there's a glitch and he's actually typing and I can't see it (happened several times), or I'm actually broadcasting in free chat or something.
It helps if the guy tells me at the beginning that he wants me to play with myself however I want (please note that this is NOT the same thing as "whatever I want" because that would be leaving the room and playing with my dogs) AND that he won't be typing during the show. Then at least I know what to expect.
This is all nit picking and "ideal scenario" wishful thinking, but thought I'd throw in my 2 cents. :) At the end of the day, I just want to do my job and avoid as many assholes as possible. A few silent, awkward shows are not going to ruin my day in the least.
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Also, I encourage cam to cam. It makes it a helluva lot easier to understand what's going on on your side if I can see reactions.
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You are like a magical unicorn of cam customers.
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You are like a magical unicorn of cam customers.
I've been called a lot of things but that's the first time I was a unicorn....:)
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Omne35:
Cam models spend hours online several days per week. Personally, I think it is unrealistic to expect they are actually having pleasure just because I popped into their chat room. From their point of view, camming is a job -- not something they do to get off. Women don't sit around all day waiting to have an orgasm. ;-)
I'm a respectful, funny, and warm customer, but it would be extremely presumptuous of me to think they can have a real orgasm/pleasure for my benefit. Also, if I cannot provide respectful direction (no anal, no squirting, sometimes no toys), then the session is no different than watching porn except I'm out $100.
I guess the point of my post is camming is a fantasy -- try not to get caught up in it. Think of it as an interactive sex show. Treat the models with respect and fun. Tip and review well. However, don't believe for a second it is anything more than a fantasy and acting on their part. Dudes who think it is more than a fantasy end up being the stalker types.
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Omne35:
Cam models spend hours online several days per week. Personally, I think it is unrealistic to expect they are actually having pleasure just because I popped into their chat room. From their point of view, camming is a job -- not something they do to get off. Women don't sit around all day waiting to have an orgasm. ;-)
I'm a respectful, funny, and warm customer, but it would be extremely presumptuous of me to think they can have a real orgasm/pleasure for my benefit. Also, if I cannot provide respectful direction (no anal, no squirting, sometimes no toys), then the session is no different than watching porn except I'm out $100.
I guess the point of my post is camming is a fantasy -- try not to get caught up in it. Think of it as an interactive sex show. Treat the models with respect and fun. Tip and review well. However, don't believe for a second it is anything more than a fantasy and acting on their part. Dudes who think it is more than a fantasy end up being the stalker types.
Hi,
Thanks for responding.
I absolutely agree that it's a fantasy and actually that's the attraction for me. As I said my real life relationships are perfectly fine, if they weren't I would be out meeting someone.
I'm not sure I entirely agree with your other premise though. Based on a lot of reading on this forum and some others it seems more like a mixed bag. Some cam models have no interest in ever having an orgasm while camming, as you said it's a job. On the other hand some have posted, perfectly sincerely it would appear, that they sometimes, or even frequently, can have an orgasm under the right conditions. On demand, not likely, but I am curious about what those conditions *might* be and the models would be the best source for that info. Even without an orgasm it can be pleasant for them. No orgasm doesn't necessarily mean no pleasure.
The difference as far as providing direction is the immediacy of real time. I can watch a replay of last year's Superbowl but even if I didn't know the outcome it wouldn't be the same as watching it live even though I have no control over the outcome either way. I greatly respect the acting ability of most of the models but I have to wonder, if they are self directing is there going to be as much acting. I never meant to imply that I would go completely silent, just not directing specific toys or actions or speech.
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I have two customers like you...and I love them dearly. I do love being able to do what I want, but I also love the fact that they do give me time to get off. I don't get off on cam besides with those two. At first before we established a rhythm, they just kinda let me do my thing and commented every now and again, letting me know that they were in fact still there and engaged etc.
What I do love is when I'm doing what I want, but they are typing out their fantasies to me and I occasionally verbally join in etc by saying what would happen. That makes it fun because not only do I not physically have to do anything, but I am helping someone live out their fantasy anyway. They have also said that they much prefer me to make myself cum the way I want because its more authentic in any case, which it is.
My advice to you would be to keep being so thoughtful and then find girls who are willing to participate in your fantasies but do their own thing. Or, find me haha. Seriously though, to answer your question, I do love interaction but not really direction per se. Interaction for me helps me intuitively guide the session where it needs to go, direction messes up my flow. Of course though, direction is what this game is about so while I don't loathe it, I do look forward to my sessions where my method of pleasure is my own and I get to just share an experience with someone.
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It's generally pretty easy to figure out which guys want the fantasy of having me orgasm and which guys are genuinely wanting me to take my time and orgasm. I have a few regulars who I consistently have that take me exclusive and let me do my thing until I get off. The Majority of the time- they just want the fantasy. :)
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I am pretty adaptable so either type of show is fine. I can go to the extreme in submissiveness and for dominating as well. Both have their pros and cons. The majority of shows for me are pretty laid back. Lots of witty banter mixed with dirty talk and finding out how my customer ticks so we can work together towards a mutually beneficial exchange is how I perceive 90% of my private-based shows. For token sites, I use interactive toys so it is a straight forward inteaction...tip to get reward. Very black and white really.
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I've bounced around the various sites for a little while and then got absorbed in reading the SW site. I was generally appalled at a lot of the abuse coming from some of the customers. Of course I was reading large chunks of the Stupid Annoying shit I've heard on cam, as well as the vent threads so my attitude might be skewed just a wee bit...:D
Anyway my question to you is would you, as a camgirl, prefer a priv/excl session with a lot of customer direction or a session where you simply are asked to do whatever feels best to you. Basically having you make the decisions on what you want to do and how to do it, it's your time. Toys, no toys, doesn't matter. Assume the customer is perfectly happy with you having an orgasm any way you like to do it best and is satisfied by you being satisfied. The customer would also be willing to provide any interaction the performer would desire.
Also assume sufficient time for you to accomplish this.
Thank you for your sweet and well-thought-out question.
For me, I just want to make my customer happy in whatever way that helps him find satisfaction. That being said, I am only obviously willing to make him happy within the personal boundaries that I've set up of what I will or will not do.
If a customer has no respect for me and tries to walk over those personal boundaries then there isn't enough money in the world for me to want to give them a show.
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How did I miss this? I'm glad Audri posted the link in another thread because yes, many times a good thoughtful customer will have a relevant question. I was chatting this last week in a crowded guest chat on Streamate (it was busy last week for me) and I told my guys that I think I have the cream of the crop guys. It was just a great week last week. So many of my regulars came in, and some great conversations. And a lot of laughs. So I very much appreciate a good guy. I'm sorry when I hear a pissed off at "men in general" camgirl respond almost always poorly towards men. It's almost like camming brings out the worst in some girls. I know there are jerks out there and it's hard. I have my share. But the last thing I want is for that one special nice guy to come into my room by chance, or more than likely because he is lost...LOL and see me in a foul mood. I've always got it in the back of my mind. "you never know who that username is, what his day and life has been like, and you should not assume one thing about him, but have a smile on your face when he arrives"
As far as your question. My profile describes it best I had space for (they don't give us enough room in Streamate profiles to say what we want) "every man is different and I enjoy finding out what pleases us both" some men like being quiet and trust I know my sexy routine. Some men I figure out right away want to talk and direct. I will take simple direction in premium. I actually LIKE talking, teasing and getting to know my guys in private. I encourage cam to cam and treat them like a real person. They ARE. Men are nervous, intimated and have real feelings. I want them to feel relaxed and right at home in either chat. If directing every second makes them happy, then I'm happy to do it. They are paying me. It's my job the make sure they leave happy and I even tell them that in private. "I want to make you happy" And I am not lying. Each man is different, so, each private is different. But one thing NEVER changes. How I enter it. That builds a consistent and constant trust with my guys. I treat my premium the same as exclusive. I just do more kinky things in exclusive. I do have a few guys that really really REALLY want me to cum in private. I tell them it has to be exclusive because that means I'm focused on myself and it takes me a few minutes to cum. You are right. If I don't have an orgasm, it no way means I'm not having fun or feeling pleasure. Knowing my guy had a great time and is leaving satisfied is a big reward. That's the kind of woman I am.
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Thanks Jess, I really appreciated your answer. It had a lot of good information and gave me some things to think about.
I read through the other thread that you mentioned and since I can't comment there I thought I would do it here. For what it's worth I sincerely believe that opening those forums to anyone other than cam models would horribly disrupt them and render them much less useful than they currently are. As has been mentioned this site is for supporting models, not customers. I'm grateful that they are even open for reading by customers instead of hidden. There is a lot of great entertainment to be found as well as some very touching and thought provoking posts. Based on what I have seen on other sites allowing customers to post would discourage many of the models looking for support. I read two or three threads on TUSCL and in less than 5 minutes I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle a couple of the posters. They were complete misogynist morons. As a customer and a man I'd love to be able to defend us and say that as a group we'd be well behaved but I simply can't considering what I've seen posted elsewhere and in the forums that are open to customers on here. For whatever reason there seems to a certain percentage of customers that have some serious problems relating to women and relationships and like to harass or denigrate the models. They aren't in the majority but they seem to gather on forums like moths to a flame. It's kind of sad really.
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Thanks Jess, I really appreciated your answer. It had a lot of good information and gave me some things to think about.
I read through the other thread that you mentioned and since I can't comment there I thought I would do it here. For what it's worth I sincerely believe that opening those forums to anyone other than cam models would horribly disrupt them and render them much less useful than they currently are. As has been mentioned this site is for supporting models, not customers. I'm grateful that they are even open for reading by customers instead of hidden. There is a lot of great entertainment to be found as well as some very touching and thought provoking posts. Based on what I have seen on other sites allowing customers to post would discourage many of the models looking for support. I read two or three threads on TUSCL and in less than 5 minutes I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle a couple of the posters. They were complete misogynist morons. As a customer and a man I'd love to be able to defend us and say that as a group we'd be well behaved but I simply can't considering what I've seen posted elsewhere and in the forums that are open to customers on here. For whatever reason there seems to a certain percentage of customers that have some serious problems relating to women and relationships and like to harass or denigrate the models. They aren't in the majority but they seem to gather on forums like moths to a flame. It's kind of sad really.
What an insightful post....thank-you! I absolutely love camming and if it wasn't for the majority of men being kind, fun, generous and supportive, I wouldn't do it! It makes my camming experience so much more pleasurable when I get to know each 'username' as an individual, this only adds to the dirty fun we can share in an exclusive together lol. Personally I love men who engage with me throughout a show whether typing, c2c or the phone. It just seems more personal and I can really delve into their deepest desires. I always remind myself when I read negative or rude comments "they are just words, they mean nothing". Actually I liken camming to online gaming, people can say and do whatever they like without any real consequences, as they are anonymous! :)
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I am a firm believer that communication is key - I believe this to be true on cam and in my own sex life. Definitely don't be afraid to tell us what you want. That's why we're there. I can tell you're a gentleman, so I know you would show respect when requesting what you like.
When I sense a true gentleman, I get a chill. It's refreshing to see someone with manners. I truly have an orgasm with a gentleman. However, those men who either don't talk, don't know what they want or want us to insert the biggest toy known to man into our vaginas and "pound it hard, bb"don't make me cum. In fact, they make my clit invert itself into my vagina and hide until the customer ends the show.
So, just communicate and be respectful. I guarantee that you will get the best experience as a result.
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The cam sites that allow 'tips' are great for guys into financial domination. First off you have to find the cam girls who are into this also and can be 'domme' (not as many as you think) but once you do find them then its great. Advice for customers is to be clear about what you want and always be polite. You get a lot of rude guys who insult the performers and think its alright to do so! Because Im more a sub I tend to pick the performers who can be domme and the shows I enjoy are being teased and being made to pay.. sometimes with some verbal insults too. The tip buttons are great for this as Ive had sessions where the performer will demand x amount whilst we're in exclusive so Im paying more.. and sometimes pay x amount again to cum. I enjoy that.. rather than a straight cam session where the girl plays with herself.. but thats speaking as a sub. What annoys some performers is when you get guys who demand things from a domme performer and dont bother to read what she is into.. and then get abusive when she tells them that she wont do those things. You get a lot of idiots on these sites who are rude to the girls when they dont get what they want. For a findom sub though.. these cam sites where tipping is a big part of it.. the interaction is such a turn on.
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I have developed a habit of always directing the show and I like to keep in charge 100% of the time or seriously have the freedom to do whatever I wanted. I've suffered some sexual abuse in the past and I have a difficult time with sexually interacting with another person. For example, I can give JOI but I cannot receive JOI.
So I'd prefer those with the "ignoring" fetish who come into an exclusive block session with me and I'm allowed to masturbate if I want or just do my nails, stretch, tease, whatever I want at the time as long as I don't look right into the camera or talk to them. It's interesting to me that someone finds me interesting and I feel really appreciate by it.