How to handle this? Is this bad etiquette?
Now I'll start by saying that I never do this to other girls, I feel it's rude and looks desperate. However it's happened to me fairly often and I see it happen to other girls too, so I'm not sure if it's considered normal or if it's worth saying something.
Sometimes after approaching a customer, another girl who was just talking to him will come back and sit right back down and continue talking to him as if I'm not there. Usually, the girl left to go on stage or something like that. Now it's one thing if they agreed to do a VIP or something and she just quickly lets me know that they were already about to do some songs, and he agrees that he was waiting and then they leave. That's fairly understandable and I can tell the girl isn't trying to be rude. However, in some of these instances the girl seems to think that by saying "wait for me" to the customer (who then doesn't even follow her to the stage) means she can just come back over whenever she's done even if a different dancer is there. I'm sure sometimes these guys may be their regulars too, though not always.
When I type it out, it seems like it's clearly not proper etiquette, but I see it happen all the time to girls. I normally don't start drama because it looks bad to the customers, and I'm not that desperate to hover around one customer and try and claim him.
Is this normal to do or should I refuse to leave the customer next time? Whats the best, drama-free way to handle things?
(I wasn't sure whether to put this in hustle hut or stripping general so sorry if it's in the wrong section)
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Make sure the VIP is bought and paid for so it's a fait accompli.
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if the customer doesn't say "no thanks, I'm waiting for somebody" he's fair game. what to do when she comes back would depend on his reaction i suppose..and your particular club etiquette.
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simone87
if the customer doesn't say "no thanks, I'm waiting for somebody" he's fair game. what to do when she comes back would depend on his reaction i suppose..and your particular club etiquette.
This. At my club, it's not unusual for dancers to leave a customer so they can go to the DR, up on stage, or out for a smoke. If they're established with the customer that their company is wanted after, they will leave a drink or bandana (a lot of the dancers here will sit on bandanas) behind with the customer to sort of claim their territory. All the dancers know it, so if you see a drink or bandana, you just don't approach.
If nothing is left behind, customers are fair game and it's up to them to shoo away other dancers.
Some might argue that it's not fair to leave something behind to stake out a customer and they're still fair game, but the system seems to work pretty well at my club.
The odd time a dancer will insist on approaching a customer who is "claimed," she will end up getting rejected anyway -- unless they're a time waster who just wants to sit and chat with dancers without spending money, in which case she's done the original dancer a favour hahaha.
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Yeah I wouldn't leave him until he's either rejected the sale OR has agreed to do VIP/dances but I need to run to the DR to pee or go onstage. I tell him to wait for me and actually tell him not to go with anyone else..If he's not turning you away there's no reason you can't sit with him imo. As far as the other girl coming back before she's closed a sale, don't let her dominate the conversation. Smile and be sweet to her and then try to close the sale with him asap. "We were just getting ready to go dance, right?" Seems like there's too many girls sitting with these dudes for way too long at your club.
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Are you sure it isn't a regular of theirs? Some girls have regulars they sit with and then they'll get up to go on stage, the reg won't follow them, and will often chat with other girls while waiting for her.
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Selina M
Are you sure it isn't a regular of theirs? Some girls have regulars they sit with and then they'll get up to go on stage, the reg won't follow them, and will often chat with other girls while waiting for her.
In some instances I'm positive they're not regulars. Other times they probably are
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This is always the toughest thing. The situations like this create tension between the dancers and the customers who are sh*t starters will purposely do this to create unnecessary competition.
Some girls will stalk you around the club and purposely wait till you go on stage or go piss to move in and close a sale. However on the flip side, as a savvy dancer if you haven't closed a sale then you shouldn't get up out your seat no matter what. If you're called on stage the club requires you go on stage when called so if you haven't sold a dance and the customer doesn't agree to wait for you then you're just assed out.
She fucked up by not closing a sale before her stage and by sitting with a dude who didn't tell other dancers he was waiting for her.
I guess if you like this particular dancer then give her just this one opportunity to have the benefit of the doubt that she got called on stage at the wrong time and find someone else. But if you can't stand the hoe then just respectfully let her know that once she got up and he said he was available then you now have the green light from him to stay.
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LEAVE the customer. Have you put yourself in her shoes? Maybe she wasn't done w hustling him yet and hadn't closed her sale/ was about to. MANY customers do NOT tip on stage whether bc of social awkwardness or preference. If she was sitting, didn't close, went on stage and you butted yourself in, that's rude. Wait until she gets off stage and see if she goes back to him. If not, go up to him. But don't steal a man while a girl is on stage. That's rude. It's happened to all of us, we all know how that feels.
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dely
LEAVE the customer. Have you put yourself in her shoes? Maybe she wasn't done w hustling him yet and hadn't closed her sale/ was about to. MANY customers do NOT tip on stage whether bc of social awkwardness or preference. If she was sitting, didn't close, went on stage and you butted yourself in, that's rude. Wait until she gets off stage and see if she goes back to him. If not, go up to him. But don't steal a man while a girl is on stage. That's rude. It's happened to all of us, we all know how that feels.
I'm not one to intentionally butt in once a girl leaves. In other words, I don't stand there waiting for someone to leave and then sit down...I agree that's rude. Usually when this happens I legitimately had no idea anyone else was just there. However if it's really slow, he's not a regular of hers and he didn't follow her on stage, it's fair game period. I'm not going to lose money just to dance around some girl's feelings if I've been perfectly respectful and fair.
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^I agree. I'm not about to sit around waiting for a girl to finish her stage show -- which can take 10-20 minutes depending on the club -- just so I can see if she goes back to the customer she was sitting with before or not before I approach. If she hasn't left anything behind to indicate her intent to return, he's fair game and it's up to him to tell me to go away if he's really interested in her. It sucks to lose out on sales because you have to go on stage, but that happens to all of us too.
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I would say a big factor is the size of your club. In a small club... If a girl HAS to go on stage rotation and was planning to go back to the customer after then you are stepping on her toes just a bit. You can ask leading questions to try and figure out if he is in fact waiting for this dancer or not or suggest the two of you go tip her at the stage and see how he responds. However, as the other girls have said if he didn't want you at the table he would probably say something. As you get to know the girls' names and regulars you will have an easier time differentiating. Until then- you can just play stupid but don't let the other girls bully you or try to crowd you out. If its a big club they are all fair game.