ok sorry did not know
will read the posts :)
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ok sorry did not know
will read the posts :)
Naw, I just wanted to make sure I was clear to everyone in the thread because it felt like my opinion was slightly different than the majority. I do appreciate your post, though ^_^ Thank you!
It'll be interesting to see what Bonga has to say in response to all of this...
HA! Just found out members can ban/block models. LOL
I think all cam sites let members ban models, only Bongs is special enough to let us be aware that we got banned. I would love to get a list of them and send them pictures of mating animals.
What is the point of letting us know we got banned by a member anyway? To make us beg for them to unban? It's kind of like car horns, they are only in our cars so we can tell other drivers how stupid they drive. It ain't for safety because by the time you honk your horn you've already run over said person.
LOL I know funny. I only friend spenders who take me on a long private or tip for it. I've had to ban a lot of guys on bonga who just pm me out of the blue. They are usually vip guys that I can't find in my chat room so I have to click on their name in the pm box, get to their profile and THEN ban them. Really, I'm super sweet to my chatroom guys and have a higher tolerance with those present, but some things just rub me the wrong way. I do not care that you are VIP and how many tokens you have, Homey don't play that.
I have to say, don't let my bad experience deter you from working on this site, I have been on there everyday the whole time. and I just got a $50 bonus.. So it comes down to your principles or needing to make a living. For me I choose to keep on truckin'.. Over the last 13 yrs I have had many cam sites who screwed me out of getting paid.. AW was for $130 because I didn't have a passport. ( for example).. It happens and it always will.. Is it right? NOPE! it's not right. But what can you do? On the grand scale of things it's miniscule. So I say still give it a try if you need another revenue source.
Well, I feel like the biggest hypocritical ho today. Went on the Bongs. Inhaled and got so high too.
^^ hey, I'm right with you. In spite of the beggars and annoying guys, it's kinda' a fun little site. I split it with MFC and CB yesterday. The only trouble I had was that I got disconnected from BC a couple of times. But it was easy to sign back on. I didn't take any privates though because I'm still not familiar with splitting. My only real complaint with BC is the whole PM thing. If I set it for no pm from anyone, it should include VIP guys. Or at least make the pm's like on mfc where I don't see or hear anything, it's just a tab behind the chatoom tab and I can easily ignore it if I want to. I've just never had anything good from pm's. Just dirty talk or talk about a private that will never happen. Plus having to get up from laying on my back to look at a pm....I'm busy man! It's just not worth it to me. Well I sent my complaint to support and I'll shut up about it now.
^^ Speaking of PM's on Bongs, the fuck does it have the same noise as an SM private? Totally messes me up and when split camming the reflex after that sound is to start putting the other sites on break mode and start stripping. Then I'm like wtf I'm not on SM!
Lol hyori
^^ LOL I did DM them on twitter and they said they like model feedback, so I voiced my opinion on the PM thing. I hate banning a guy over it, but when I'm in the middle of a freaky public show, I don't want to be disturbed, get up from being spread eagle on the bed and read your little PM "whoot whoot milf in the house" geez!
I got my first 'member ban' today because he asked me to PM him for his number so we can date. I sort of scoffed and said nope and he banned me. Muwha! The VIPs being able to PM is also highly annoying and the only real issue I really have with Bonga. I had to ban three of them today and I think its very cheeky. I'm on my 3rd day and doing pretty well though so the site is working out pretty good for me. X
^^ you can ban him too, even after he's banned you. LOL You just have to go to his profile. I got some crazy rude guys today, posting those animated images over and over....uhg! But thank goodness it's only like 1 in 100. And I'm getting guys now that just ban me out of the blue. I'm like wha? Funny, and it would be better if when they banned me, I didn't get that little pop up notification in my busy room which is filled with guys who DO like me. One annoyed guy should not be allowed to disrupt my happy room. you know?
On a brighter note, I did pretty well treating it like CB. Hyori is right, the lovense toy (lush) doesn't work at all though. I fake it and the CB guys keep me going. I split again and had no problems. haha, I ended up closing my MFC room because I had 300 guys in there a ton of premiums and they were all brain dead. I had to put them out of their misery and shut that shit down.
I've gotten banned from a few members but I thought this one was entertaining. There's this guy who keeps buggin' me to play with toy figures and I told him he'd have to tip me 60 tokens to go out and grab some from my living room if he wanted to see some. I'm a huge nerd and have tons of toys and action figures. And he said "bb I don't have 60 but I'll tip you 20 to see some pls bb". I said "okay, I'll show you one if you tip 20". So he did and I got my two foot tall Xenomorph from the movie 'Alien' that was in the corner of my room and started dancing around with it. Hey it IS an action figure and then he got mad because he wanted "normal girl figures".
If he complains and Bongs takes away my 20 tokens it'll be worth it.
Jess what do you mean lovense doesn't work?
Hey, everyone!
I will try to answer all your questions :)
Starting....now :)
Yes, BongaCams is Mac friendly :)
Again, I would like to point out that this is not the case of fraud activity or any other payment dispute which resulted in returning of the money to the member's credit card. If that was the case then no token refund were to take place.
Judging by the chat logs, we really don't find it rude to ask once to hurry up in a private chat. It just seems strange to ban a paying member just for stating it one time only.
We don't encourage models to tolerate anything that they may find offensive, but given the situation when a member in a private chat was banned for the abovementioned, the decision was made in favor of that member. If the member's request during a private chat is something beyond models ability, then, of course, no token refund is applied. That is why it is suggested to discuss beforehand with the model what she is capable of doing.
On the contrary, we always have our models' best interests in mind, but unfortunately this was a case when a member was entitled to a token refund.
If this happened in a public chat, then there wouldn't be any problems. The member got what he has requested. But this happened in a private chat with no objections from the models side, nor obscene requests from the members side.
We fully understand that few things that are as upsetting as dealing with a rude, disrespectful member, but a simple request to “hurry up” in a paid chat just doesn't necessary mean an act of rudeness.
We don't put rude members over models. This was a particular case, where we didn't find anything rude. Also, please understand that tokens refunds and chargebacks/money refunds back to credit cards are not the same thing. You can find more information when tokens refund might occur in our Terms.
Models are not obligated to put up with rudeness. We have stated why this tokens refund took place.
If the member acted like you have described, then, certainly, no tokens refund can be claimed.
It may seem that the whole situation was unfair to the model, but we don't consider the members words rude. Also, the fact that it was a paid chat, and no objections, and no obscene requests were present – sadly, led us to act according to our Terms.
If you still have any questions about the difference between a tokens refund in such situations and a charbeback/refund that result in returning money back to the credit card – please contact our support team. :)
Here is the thing, just because YOU (who I am assuming is NOT a cammodel) or the men that run the site, don think its rude to say hurry up... well, you have a crap ton of woman, that ARE cammodels, that ARE the ones that make the site the money, and if WE find it rude that a customer tells us to Hurry up... well, thats our choice... it is rude.. do you go into a store and tell the clerk who is taking care of you to hurry up? no, why because it is rude. You can guarantee that 99.9% of the camgirls will think it is rude... he is wanting to get all he can for the least amount of money. well, damn, that is NOT going to make the site any more money now is it? she should not have lost her pay.. you want to refund him tokens, then do so on your own, not out of the money she earn, she showed tits, its her right to ban him ... . some girls charge $5 or even $10 or $20 for guys to look at their tits.. you couldn't even give her the courtesy of letting her keep the measly $2 she got from it??
I wonder if you noticed a decrease in girls online? is that why you came back to finally answer the questions?
I am normally very quite on this site, but this really pisses me off!
And why are models alerted when members block them? Why does anyone need to know this when you're trying to focus on making money and staying positive? Letting a model know that she's been banned from a member is the opposite of positive reinforcement. I understand if the model tries to contact the member and THEN they get the alert that the member has banned them. That makes sense. On most sites a model can tell if she's popular or not by the number of customers that favorite her or how many votes they get. But a pop up window telling the model that a member has banned them? That's rude and unnecessary. I know Olga saw people comment on this but decided to ignore it.
Olga there were only two acceptable choices for you to come back with here:
1) Apologise to Anonymous camgirl, give her back her money, and assure all the models/potential models here that your policy is NO REFUNDS OR CHARGEBACKS EVER (like it says in your marketing), then stick by it.
Or
2) Apologise for misleading models with your marketing, then change your marketing to stop lieing to us.
You did neither. Instead you chose to write a ridiculously long wall of words which basically amounts to "blah blah blah, we'll give refunds to whoever we want and don't owe you any kind of explanation. In fact we think it's much more fun to keep stringing you along with bullshit because you're all so dumb and will take anything we give you. Blah blah blah".
I'm not sure why you bothered.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this but the model's on this board are the BEST in the industry. We make thousands, some even millions. You better wise up fast and figure out that if you treat us right, YOU come out on top! Treat us like shit and you lose us and your reputation and can look forward to scrabbling round in the dirt making pennies wondering why all the good models only stick to streamate and myfreecams.