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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
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sexysusie
Jess what do you mean lovense doesn't work?
I had tried it before (lush) with Bonga (just camming on that site, no splitting) and it didn't work. I've used the Lush successfully with both CB and MFC so I know I set it up right. It didn't work at all. The guys did tip for it, but I had to fake it which I really don't like. Nothing happened, no auto reply thankyou or anything. But it did work with CB and MFC so I know it wasn't me.
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
^^ Lovense has the necessary code to make the toys work, I am assuming they will have it working with the next big update. The toys sort of work, you will see when you connect the toy a notification shows up in Bongs chat that the toy is connected.
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
The Lovense toys work on Bonga and Naked now! To make them work, you need to install the extension manually. The instructions are here: http://lovense.com/cam-model/guide/a...nsion-manually
I am also cutting and pasting instructions here:
http://i.imgur.com/RvT0pnk.png
http://i.imgur.com/mP9etAw.png
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
Sorry, but I think it's rude to tell a cam girl to "hurry up" just because your cheap, bargain-basement ass wants to pay Walmart prices for a cam show. And telling her to "hurry up" is more likely to irritate her than get her "in the mood."
"The customer is always right" doesn't apply here. Start treating your models better...
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Let's hope no scamming members are here reading about how "hurry up" gets them a free flash, LOL.
Actually, I highly doubt Bongs will dare refund a member for doing that going forward. God forbid a member try that with me. There will be blood.
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
Hahahaha, thank God for these forums. I was kind of juiced, now I won't even be completing registration. Thankfully I kept reading all of this.
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
Honestly not surprised from a company that spends way more time on GFY than here. They've got the slimy culture of that site all up in their brains now.
But yeah, the marketing is VERY misleading. They'll cover chargebacks only once it's been taken out of the customer's credit card, but they won't cover token refunds. Makes sense from their point of view but for the models it's pretty much the same thing. She ended up doing work that she normally gets paid for... for free. That's the bottom line.
At least we're clear on the policies now and can make our decisions about this site based on truth instead of marketing tactics going forward.
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Tsani, you are so right because I saw some of their threads on GFY and I said to myself "Yikes!" But now the truth is out there :)
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Tsani
Honestly not surprised from a company that spends way more time on GFY than here. They've got the slimy culture of that site all up in their brains now.
But yeah, the marketing is VERY misleading. They'll cover chargebacks only once it's been taken out of the customer's credit card, but they won't cover token refunds. Makes sense from their point of view but for the models it's pretty much the same thing. She ended up doing work that she normally gets paid for... for free. That's the bottom line.
At least we're clear on the policies now and can make our decisions about this site based on truth instead of marketing tactics going forward.
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
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Originally Posted by
Olga BongaCams
Judging by the chat logs, we really don't find it rude to ask once to hurry up in a private chat. It just seems strange to ban a paying member just for stating it one time only.
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We don't encourage models to tolerate anything that they may find offensive, but given the situation when a member in a private chat was banned for the abovementioned, the decision was made in favor of that member. If the member's request during a private chat is something beyond models ability, then, of course, no token refund is applied. That is why it is suggested to discuss beforehand with the model what she is capable of doing.
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On the contrary, we always have our models' best interests in mind, but unfortunately this was a case when a member was entitled to a token refund.
If you actually had your model's best interests in mind then you would support her choice to ban a customer at any time she was feeling uncomfortable enough to do so.
I can tell you that I have *personally* banned members on more than one occasion for being rude to me a single time during a show since I am unwilling to tolerate rude customers for my own personal mental health. I have also done this without a single warning or explanation to the customer. The fact that you think that a model should have to put up with rudeness more than once and that it is the job of the model to police the customer's behavior shows that you have ZERO concern for your model's mental health. You are essentially saying that your company believes that it is within a model's ability to put up with rudeness. Even worse than that you are also essentially saying that it is up to your company to decide what is within a model's ability to provide and therefore whatever the model's personal boundaries are is completely irrelevant.
Before I was a cam model, I actually worked in tech support and if a customer was rude to me a SINGLE time over the phone my company fully supported my hanging up on them. There was no 'scale of rudeness' that I was required to follow since they knew I was obviously smart enough to judge for myself what I found to be rude since I was the one who was actually on the phone taking the call. So, I am not sure why your company is having such a hard time wrapping your mind around this concept.
I want you to really think about this for a minute logically, Olga. The model in question was making money and she made the choice to give up making any more money on that customer because her personal boundaries were crossed. Do you really think she would just decide to stop making money on some sort of a sheer lark?
What is more likely in this situation? That you and your company are completely in the wrong for penalizing a camgirl for making a decision to protect her own mental health....or that a camgirl just decided to herself 'Oh goodness me, I've made more money then I'd ever need in this lifetime so I am just going to ban this customer for no reason....what...so...ever.
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Just look on SM for the tags 'ban happy', 'fast ban' so on, all ban related, we ban like crazy but make thousands there, we as models in general.
"Hurry up" to me is rude no matter what, if a guy says this to me i think: "you a cheap wanker who wants to cum as fast as possible over me and bugger off asap" so i either stop performing, slow down a lot or ban (depending on my mood lol), that guy is not going to spend much anyway so why cum over me for that cheap?
I am a luxury product not a commodity. If u guys at bonga allow cheap members on ur site to treat models like this & refund them the tokens u'll stay a cheap site with only cheap members there.
Up ur standards guys, seriously. I was really hoping u'll come back with better news....
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
I give BongaCams this.....they have caused me to have a whole new appreciation for Streamate than I ever have had before. (*laughs*)
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^^^ Why do u think i digged the money to upgrade my system?
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
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hyori
That's like going to McDonalds, ordering fries and you tell them to hurry it up, eat the fries and then tell the manager that you want a refund because the fries took too long to make, and then to top it off, they dock it from the workers pay!!!!
Go to hell BONGA.
^^ This right here..
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Yeah GFY is a disgusting community and it makes me disgusted at men even more. The sad fact is that in front of their own kind, most men behave like this. I wish I was a lesbian to be quite honest
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Everyone, let's just be thankful that Bonga is there to tell us what we can and cannot consider rude. I mean, why respect us and our boundaries? THEY don't find it rude, why would anyone else? I mean, that's just insane! *biggest eyeroll ever*
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
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Originally Posted by
Olga BongaCams
We don't encourage models to tolerate anything that they may find offensive, but given the situation when a member in a private chat was banned for the abovementioned, the decision was made in favor of that member. If the member's request during a private chat is something beyond models ability, then, of course, no token refund is applied. That is why it is suggested to discuss beforehand with the model what she is capable of doing.
On the contrary, we always have our models' best interests in mind
Models are not obligated to put up with rudeness.
WHAT? This is the most back & forth contradictory mumbo jumbo I have ever seen.
And the disgusting part is you state here anything that is physically possible for a model to do, she should do. Forget each of our personal boundaries & mental limitations, right? All models are blow up dolls to this site.. Had it bookmarked for weeks, but I am NEVER applying to Bonga now. I'll go back to FWC before I try Bonga!
Whatta joke. Sad, sad joke of female "support"
Honestly shit like this makes me wanna quit camming altogether. Thanks for not sucking this hard, Streamate.
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
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justanothercamgirl
If you actually had your model's best interests in mind then you would support her choice to ban a customer at any time she was feeling uncomfortable enough to do so.
I can tell you that I have *personally* banned members on more than one occasion for being rude to me a single time during a show since I am unwilling to tolerate rude customers for my own personal mental health. I have also done this without a single warning or explanation to the customer. The fact that you think that a model should have to put up with rudeness more than once and that it is the job of the model to police the customer's behavior shows that you have ZERO concern for your model's mental health. You are essentially saying that your company believes that it is within a model's ability to put up with rudeness. Even worse than that you are also essentially saying that it is up to your company to decide what is within a model's ability to provide and therefore whatever the model's personal boundaries are is completely irrelevant.
Before I was a cam model, I actually worked in tech support and if a customer was rude to me a SINGLE time over the phone my company fully supported my hanging up on them. There was no 'scale of rudeness' that I was required to follow since they knew I was obviously smart enough to judge for myself what I found to be rude since I was the one who was actually on the phone taking the call. So, I am not sure why your company is having such a hard time wrapping your mind around this concept.
I want you to really think about this for a minute logically, Olga. The model in question was making money and she made the choice to give up making any more money on that customer because her personal boundaries were crossed. Do you really think she would just decide to stop making money on some sort of a sheer lark?
What is more likely in this situation? That you and your company are completely in the wrong for penalizing a camgirl for making a decision to protect her own mental health....or that a camgirl just decided to herself 'Oh goodness me, I've made more money then I'd ever need in this lifetime so I am just going to ban this customer for no reason....what...so...ever.
Please understand that in no way did I want to imply that models should tolerate rude customers, and most certainly models can and should ban members when they feel that their personal boundaries are crossed. In this I totally support their decision.
Regarding this situation, I've already answered that we just acted according to our policy and hopefully this was a one-case scenario.
I realize why you feel about it the way you do, but still hope that you can understand why we had to make this decision.
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DelishIrish
Are you being dense on purpose? This is the most back & forth contradictory mumbo jumbo I have ever seen.
And the disgusting part is you state here anything that is physically possible for a model to do, she should do. Forget each of our personal boundaries & mental limitations, right? All models are blow up dolls to this site. Pigs. I am NEVER applying to Bonga. I'll go back to FWC before I ever try Bonga.
Whatta joke. Sad, sad joke of female "support" Honestly shit like this makes me wanna quit camming altogether.
Thanks for not sucking this hard, Streamate.
I must've gotten you confused by what I said. I just wanted to state that if a model isn't comfortable with a member’s request, she shouldn't do it.
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Originally Posted by
Olga BongaCams
Please understand that in no way did I want to imply that models should tolerate rude customers, and most certainly models can and should ban members when they feel that their personal boundaries are crossed. In this I totally support their decision.
Regarding this situation, I've already answered that we just acted according to our policy and hopefully this was a one-case scenario.
I realize why you feel about it the way you do, but still hope that you can understand why we had to make this decision.
Olga the problem with saying your support a girls decision to ban a client and then refusing to pay her what she is owed because she banned a client means that your words and your actions are in direct conflict with one another.
Also when your advertisement stats that you do not do chargebacks or refunds under any circumstance and then you do a refund and quote specific circumstances for the reason your statements and actions are in direct conflict with one another.
Okay so you get to decide to refund a customer because he felt that his show was sub par. That is your right as a company and I support your decision. However you are then obligated to pay the model what she is owed from your own pocket because your policy stated that you no longer do refunds under any circumstance.
If you want to defend your position that buried way down in your terms and agreements there is some vaguely worded paragraph that allows to you to not pay the model what she is owed then you need to take the "under any circumstance" wording out of your ads and replace it with an * that will direct them to your terms and agreements page.
Just saying you "realize why we feel the way we do" means your not understanding that this is not based on feelings its based on the fact that Bonga Cams is lieing. When cam sites lie to us we call it out like a spade!
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
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Please understand that in no way did I want to imply that models should tolerate rude customers, and most certainly models can and should ban members when they feel that their personal boundaries are crossed.
... except for the fact they won't get paid if they do this lol, how very kind of you.
You cannot say "we support the model's right to ban a rude customer", and then not pay her when she bans a rude customer. That is NOT supporting the model, that is called penalising her. You do not get to decide what is rude either, that is up to us.
Let's make this clear for you - if you refund members out of models pockets the following is going to happen:
1) the model will stop working for you = you lose money
2) new models will not sign up with you = you lose potential money
3) models working on your site stop accepting private chats in case they get a refund case = you lose money
Can you see what I am saying here?
Pay the $2 back to the model and ensure you don't give refunds again out of the model's pocket unless you've changed your advertising. It is really very, very simple.
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Re: BongaCams Official CC Thread - it's actually not that bad!
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Originally Posted by
Olga BongaCams
Please understand that in no way did I want to imply that models should tolerate rude customers, and most certainly models can and should ban members when they feel that their personal boundaries are crossed. In this I totally support their decision.
Regarding this situation, I've already answered that we just acted according to our policy and hopefully this was a one-case scenario.
I realize why you feel about it the way you do, but still hope that you can understand why we had to make this decision.
I must've gotten you confused by what I said. I just wanted to state that if a model isn't comfortable with a member’s request, she shouldn't do it.
I do understand why you had to make the decision, Olga. It is because your company's policy sucks. ;)
I also do truly appreciate you responding to me.
Thank you.
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Everyone needs to broadcast themselves in their underwear and have someone demean them the entire time before taking a job speaking on behalf of cam models and what they feel is appropriate. Restaurants refuse the right to serve people and why can't we again?! Shut up with trying to please these bottomfeeders.
Chargeback cunts bleed sites dry with no backbone. Just like chain restaurants that 86 (hello food industry gals) items on a cheap customers checks after they eat the whole fcking steak and claim they didn't like it. They'll come back next time and do it with the lobster, ect.
There is no winner when your practices lack intregrity and rewarding bad behavior will only garnish you the worst clientele. There is probably a forum where guys are talking about how to get a refund after a show and which sites they can do it on. they now know bonga is one of them!
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Attachment 44375Attachment 44376Attachment 44376So I had to put up with this rudeness yet again!.. Instead of kicking him out or banning him I had to put up with it, so I can be paid for the show.. how humiliating and degrading it is. For the record I showed him everything he wanted and sat down to printscreen all of this!.. I wanted to BAN him so bad!.. but I want to be paid for my shows
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Dear god, is that the same guy? I've never ever come across this rudeness, let alone multiple times!! The customers on this website are a fucking joke!! Who would want to work like that? I'm so sorry hun <3
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I'm impressed AC, 4 mins stretch :D
Bonga sucks. Each retarded post they make here just pisses me off more.