Just a study of 22 forensic interviews, so definitely not conclusively "most convicted pedophiles," but thanks for sharing!
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Don't do anything you don't feel comfortable doing
If you are not sure you want to do it or not, do not do it until you are sure it is something you are willing to offer
do keep in mind that members can record the show, and that it may pop up on the internet for all to see
As for me as a individual:
I do not play up a age under 18, also I dont verbally go into it. MInor in roleplay: nope
I have done daddy shows; but I only do the sugardaddy thing.. when I feel they are more into the age/daughter thing its not my customer. I guess I have a weird spot though because I do love mommy or sister roleplays, I think I am more into the dominant roles...
BTW my first language isnt English, so it is easier for me to use the word daddy in a show, because i do not feel any emotion using it whatsoever.
I don't mind catering for incest roleplay fantasies but not age play under 18.
I wasn't totally sure about the incest roleplay at first.
My cam site is MFC, so not sure what it's like on SM. But on MFC there is a large and growing trend for the very young looking girls. The girls who look very underage are all doing pretty darn well and I believe it's purely down to the whole age play fantasy. I'm 25 and don't really look younger than that so I don't fall into the category.
Incest stuff doesn't bother me at all, in fact it probably makes up the majority of my income, lol. I have close relationships with my kids, both parents, my brothers and a sister and in my head I do NOT connect them to the roleplays I do in any way, shape or form.
For me I'm not literally talking about MY dad in particular (or any other family member). It's more of a psychological thrill, a very taboo, forbidden sort of relationship with a clear power play. It's just another form of D/s. I always imagine hypothetical, imaginary scenarios that don't relate to my life at all.
Incest is all over our media and popular culture, and always has been. Two of my favorite shows, GoT and Bates Motel, feature incest/incestual themes very prominently and IMO it's no big deal and in fact, quite interesting.
I'm a little more wary of ageplay, and I won't generally state an age outright. As others have mentioned, it's pretty easy to distinguish the "safe" guys who just like to fantasize, over the guys who may very well be obvious pedos. The latter I refuse to engage with and will ban right away.
I think it's a little presumptuous to immediately judge and condemn these men for having these fantasies. IME it's extremely common and I highly doubt every single one of them is an actual sexual deviant.
Fantasy is just that: fantasy.
edit: I would also like to add that I used to do frequent incest roleplays on SM (no longer work there) and was never once banned or even warned. That's just my experience though, YMMV.
You make some sweeping assumptions! Firstly that most convicted pedophiles want to take part in this sort of research. Secondly that they utilized age play as a doorway into reality.
Do you know how difficult it is to recruit these sorts of target populations? so N=22 is utterly irrelevant. If 22 subjects provide significant results, how does this differ from a sample of 222? all that matters is the tests show internal reliability and that there is a high power if the results are significant.
I'm more than happy to read over any research you find which suggests fantasy age play does NOT lead to real life crime, if you can find any that is.
http://netaddiction.com/articles/Pedophile.pdf
This was simply a case study to create a criminal profile for virtual sex offenders. The author wasn't attempting to present any statistical analysis or determine causality. In her conclusion, the author even says "going online for sexual pursuits does not necessarily cause problems or inevitably lead to inappropriate sexual acting out". While the case study supports the idea that online pedo fantasies can lead to further online pedo activity (such as chatting with minors and possession of child porn), it doesn't have much to do with LolaLu's initial argument at all.
Firstly, none of the people in the case study were convicted - they were simply accused (albeit with pretty sturdy evidence). In all cases, it was their first violation.Quote:
Just as a sidenote to this thread, most convicted paedos have been found to role play their age 'fantasies' out online in one form or another prior to doing the deed!
Secondly, none of them had had physical sexual contact with a minor at all. In fact, of the 22 men, 2 failed to go to the meeting place; 10 showed up but didn't approach the "minor;" 9 were arrested on the spot, so we have no idea what they would have done; and only 1 of them even approached the "minor" in question.
Thirdly, the entire case study is about the significant differences in mindset and approach between online/virtual pedos (that engage in online fantasies and child porn) and "classic" pedos (who physically engage with minors). The main finding seems to be that classic pedos make realistic plans, stalk their target, and do everything they can to complete the act. Meanwhile virtual offenders tend to keep it in the virtual realm and half-ass their IRL approach, if they even get that far. She also points out that classic pedophiles don't tend to enjoy online environments where they know or suspect that the other person is an adult pretending to be a minor (which would suggest that cam sites are unsatisfying to "classic" pedos).
And finally, this quote from the study, which makes me wonder if the author had some inappropriate bias about the topic:
I think it's problematic that this author thinks that "normal sex" is a real thing in the first place, and apparently feels that gay and interracial sex (among other pretty normal things) are "sexually deviant." :O Even if we were to take this quote seriously, it would mean that any of us that offer any sort of fetish could be catering to a potential pedo.Quote:
Virtual Offenders often start out in general adult sex chat rooms and gradually experiment with erotic and graphic chat themes, dabbling in bondage rooms, water sports rooms, interracial sex rooms, gay men rooms, or phone sex rooms. The risk of experimenting in sexually deviant online fantasies is that the virtual sex offender begins to distort what normal sex is and slowly develops a dependency on the nightly variety of sexual themes that Internet chat rooms can provide.
P.S. I don't know one way or the other whether it's true that online pedo fantasies frequently precede "doing the deed." I just don't think that this study supports that conclusion, nor do I think it was intended to.
The initial argument was that engaging in ageplay fantasies could lead to actual offending. As cam girls we have no way of knowing if someone is a virtual offender or a classic offender, for example someone could be a convicted classic offender and be on tag after coming from prison - so their outlet could indeed be they switch to virtual offending as they cannot leave the house or are being monitored if on suspended sentences.
All 22 did go to meet the minor though, suggesting it had shifted from fantasy to reality. They were all at differing stages of this shift, hence some approached, some did not ect. This is where the problem lies, to what extent is this shift facilitated by age play on cam? I take this quote from the article to reiterate this point
"Users are free to explore pedophilic themes within the sexually uninhibited environment of the Internet. In this way, cyberspace becomes an enabler allowing users to create personalized content without any
limitations".