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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Blovely
Bump. Was wondering if you had any luck with anything?
I Was wondering the same thing
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
yep me too i have a bachelors of science in psychology and really thinking about using it some how. I turned down two management positions in corporate because i was young and stupid and really am regretting it now. I am still averaging 30 an hour on cam but thats low considering what I used to make an hour and sometimes still do when I have traffic. It is just too up and down for me lately. Let us know if you found anything.
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
Trying to PM you but site is not letting me...
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
I can't think of anything with same potential AND freedom
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Dorothea
I can't think of anything with same potential AND freedom
Sales....anything sales... we are in 100% commission sales. Find an industry you LOVE and SELL IT!
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
Dorothea
I can't think of anything with same potential AND freedom
selling online is a huge industry some people only limit themselves with camming, the internet is huge place, and people are definitely making more or the same they would without being in adult.
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
https://www.pluralsight.com/paths/ccna
Check out that website. You can literally learn anything you want for $300 a year and make a new career out of it.
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
Karinnnnaaa!!! Going to send u a pm..
To the OP, best to you, I'm not all the familiar, but I have sold stuff on eBay.
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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seashell
Have you looked at the vanilla at-home jobs sticky thread? It has a lot of great ideas. :)
Dog walking surprisingly is a high paying gig. If you want to learn a skill, graphic design and web design are highly marketable and can be well-paying if you're good, plus you can learn at home.
Where is the vanilla at-home jobs sticky thread? I can't find it?
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Girly_Girl
Where is the vanilla at-home jobs sticky thread? I can't find it?
it's in the other work section
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
Thanks everyone! I haven't been on here much. I currently manage our own rental properties for long and short term rentals, for vacationers. While camming income definitely contributed having this nest egg, it's mostly thanks to my husband. It is sales, dealing with people, ups and downs, but family friendly, and i CAN talk about it to people!
I was also very reluctant to change from camming into some other business venture, but since i haven't cammed since 2 years, it's like a fog has lifted, also have more TIME to build and think about other business ventures. Physical/ emotional effort put into camming robbed me of a lot of time to reflect and put effort into other plans/thoughts/ventures. I had to stop cold, deal with lean times, then slowly build myself up and go forward in different direction.
While i,m still flirting with the idea of hopping on cam sometimes, and come on here to see how everyone else is doing, reading about the recent changes in laws, privacy and the industry as a whole, i'm not sure if it's worth the huge effort anymore.
I just wanted to update you all, who responded, to tell you that you CAN get out and have no regrets about it. Hope it can help someone!
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
Hey I launched my online fashion business a year ago and I gotta say it prob won’t make much turnover for the first year or so unless you’re prepared to invest big bucks into advertising, product development and photo shoots and I have 2 yrs experience in fashion buying. If you have time and money to invest give it a go for sure! But the return won’t be sudden or massive.
I sell bikinis for now and designed my own line of recycled plastic bottle Activewear
Check it out at SlumberSquad.com
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
You could also look into creating online courses if you have an education background and charge for the content at Thinkific or Udemy sites
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
anouk.oui
You could also look into creating online courses if you have an education background and charge for the content at Thinkific or Udemy sites
You actually don't need an education background to create an online course. You just really need to know what topic you want to coach/mentor on and plan out a course outline and a marketing/sales funnel for it. Just spent the weekend in Arizona learning all I can do and what I can accomplish by putting my knowledge and expertise into something that I can sell. or also resell an existing program that will pay me a healthy commission.
Now camming, has become crowing funding/fund raising for my business. and it makes it less stressful to be on cam thinking that income would be my only income I live on. not that I am prepared and damn ready to be in more then one income stream it's all about leverage, manifestation while having an imagination and being creative.
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
minniesoporno
You actually don't need an education background to create an online course. You just really need to know what topic you want to coach/mentor on and plan out a course outline and a marketing/sales funnel for it. .
i agree :) i meant ith her educational background building an online course could be a better time investment / skills transfer than fashion buying, as that's something i've done for 4 years prior to my business both study and work and its still not yealding the return it should sigh
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
Before I cammed, I used to teach English online to foreign students. It was crappy money compared to what I do now, BUT that was only because I worked for a company who took a big chunk of my salary. There are tons of educational websites where you can set your own rates, hours etc. The Russian market is absolutely huge and they will pay good money if you can help them pass certain tests needed to work and travel to the US/UK.
My only other suggestion would be to quit cam, but focus solely on making clips instead if you're good for that. I know quite a few camgirls who don't cam at all now, only make clips and they seem to be doing really well. :)
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
I now teach an online course and it has almost entirely replaced my camming income. The earning potential for non-adult online work now far surpasses that of camming. Once I saw that I shifted gears pronto. For me camming has always been about hte money first and foremost. I always said so long as it was easy and i could make a LOT of money doing very little then I would stick with it. For a long time that was the case. But nowadays it takes longer to earn the same, the complications, the risks, and the competition are WAY higher. It's also extremely boring. I am grateful to camming for answering my request to the universe to give me 'something i could do online that makes a lot of money', but after 7 years I am SO relieved to be moving away from it. I don't think I'll ever quit entirely. Weirdly, the less I try and the less I care about it, the more money I make when I DO cam. I used to have one rule - fuck you, pay me, but while you're paying me you are KING and I will treat you as such. But no more.. i just get on, way less effort with everything, clothes, makeup, attitude... and i make more. Lolz. I now think the same as Minnie above - camming is just crowdfunding my bigger, better ventures :D
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
sexysusie
I now teach an online course and it has almost entirely replaced my camming income. The earning potential for non-adult online work now far surpasses that of camming. Once I saw that I shifted gears pronto. For me camming has always been about hte money first and foremost. I always said so long as it was easy and i could make a LOT of money doing very little then I would stick with it. For a long time that was the case. But nowadays it takes longer to earn the same, the complications, the risks, and the competition are WAY higher. It's also extremely boring. I am grateful to camming for answering my request to the universe to give me 'something i could do online that makes a lot of money', but after 7 years I am SO relieved to be moving away from it. I don't think I'll ever quit entirely. Weirdly, the less I try and the less I care about it, the more money I make when I DO cam. I used to have one rule - fuck you, pay me, but while you're paying me you are KING and I will treat you as such. But no more.. i just get on, way less effort with everything, clothes, makeup, attitude... and i make more. Lolz. I now think the same as Minnie above - camming is just crowdfunding my bigger, better ventures :D
So in the last 4 years I've attended internet marketing events who are just affiliates promoting companies, from attending them and filtering out the negative people or the people who have no clue what online porn is about let alone camming as a business. I've come to this really super abundant place with camming and affiliate marketing specifically high ticket affiliate marketing programs.
So as a business model. I see being a webcam performer as being on the top end of a sale funnels. which explains why we are paid the amount we are getting. and also explains why the affiliates are paid the amount they are paid. great so I've mastered some skills being a performer and even cam and dating site affiliates, then when I went to events for just plain information affiliates they are not only missing out on money, but they also see making money online is VERY VERY ridiculously simple.
They only focus on getting as much as traffic as possible to their capture pages, and email marketing list. and have that traffic (traffic is really people) to buy whatever it is they are selling and repeat.
So now my time on cam has to be super strategic. 50% of what I make goes into growing high ticket affiliate offers. when the math is small it seems like a crunch but focusing on the vision and the plan makes it super rich and abundant. a lot easier to cam when you know you are investing in something that will create residual income or long-term future income, so camming becomes % of your today money and % of that becomes your future money.
Since it really does feel like webcam is just raising money every time you long and repeat. which I believe is the straw that breaks the back of burn out.
Plus when I travel for events there is no thinking if I could cam in this hotel, it's more of how can I record a youtube video for my audience and also making sure I am sending out 2 emails a day to my subscriber list. Going on cam only happens when I am home, because that money is reinvested in high ticket affiliate marketing.
It's called high ticket affiliate marketing because of the sales funnel, get people in on a low offer where they buy , and then once they are in the sales funnel, they get email follow ups and they are working through the internet marketing bootcamp, with weekly motivation calls, and a private facebook group, and then also attending events.
What's interesting with these companies if a person can bring in sales the company recognizes them pretty quickly. as for what they they are selling, it's how to online marketing courses over and over. people love buying education and information.
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
sexysusie
I now teach an online course and it has almost entirely replaced my camming income. The earning potential for non-adult online work now far surpasses that of camming. Once I saw that I shifted gears pronto. For me camming has always been about hte money first and foremost. I always said so long as it was easy and i could make a LOT of money doing very little then I would stick with it. For a long time that was the case. But nowadays it takes longer to earn the same, the complications, the risks, and the competition are WAY higher. It's also extremely boring. I am grateful to camming for answering my request to the universe to give me 'something i could do online that makes a lot of money', but after 7 years I am SO relieved to be moving away from it. I don't think I'll ever quit entirely. Weirdly, the less I try and the less I care about it, the more money I make when I DO cam. I used to have one rule - fuck you, pay me, but while you're paying me you are KING and I will treat you as such. But no more.. i just get on, way less effort with everything, clothes, makeup, attitude... and i make more. Lolz. I now think the same as Minnie above - camming is just crowdfunding my bigger, better ventures :D
Sounds amazing. Which site do you use for this?
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
sexysusie
I now teach an online course and it has almost entirely replaced my camming income. The earning potential for non-adult online work now far surpasses that of camming. Once I saw that I shifted gears pronto. For me camming has always been about hte money first and foremost. I always said so long as it was easy and i could make a LOT of money doing very little then I would stick with it. For a long time that was the case. But nowadays it takes longer to earn the same, the complications, the risks, and the competition are WAY higher. It's also extremely boring. I am grateful to camming for answering my request to the universe to give me 'something i could do online that makes a lot of money', but after 7 years I am SO relieved to be moving away from it. I don't think I'll ever quit entirely. Weirdly, the less I try and the less I care about it, the more money I make when I DO cam. I used to have one rule - fuck you, pay me, but while you're paying me you are KING and I will treat you as such. But no more.. i just get on, way less effort with everything, clothes, makeup, attitude... and i make more. Lolz. I now think the same as Minnie above - camming is just crowdfunding my bigger, better ventures :D
That's amazing! I've tried several nonadult things, affiliate marketing, selling ebooks, things like that but it ended up being a huge waste of my time, only made literally pennies a day so I gave it up. Can't seem to support myself unless I do cam.
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
minniesoporno
So in the last 4 years I've attended internet marketing events who are just affiliates promoting companies, from attending them and filtering out the negative people or the people who have no clue what online porn is about let alone camming as a business. I've come to this really super abundant place with camming and affiliate marketing specifically high ticket affiliate marketing programs.
So as a business model. I see being a webcam performer as being on the top end of a sale funnels. which explains why we are paid the amount we are getting. and also explains why the affiliates are paid the amount they are paid. great so I've mastered some skills being a performer and even cam and dating site affiliates, then when I went to events for just plain information affiliates they are not only missing out on money, but they also see making money online is VERY VERY ridiculously simple.
They only focus on getting as much as traffic as possible to their capture pages, and email marketing list. and have that traffic (traffic is really people) to buy whatever it is they are selling and repeat.
So now my time on cam has to be super strategic. 50% of what I make goes into growing high ticket affiliate offers. when the math is small it seems like a crunch but focusing on the vision and the plan makes it super rich and abundant. a lot easier to cam when you know you are investing in something that will create residual income or long-term future income, so camming becomes % of your today money and % of that becomes your future money.
Since it really does feel like webcam is just raising money every time you long and repeat. which I believe is the straw that breaks the back of burn out.
Plus when I travel for events there is no thinking if I could cam in this hotel, it's more of how can I record a youtube video for my audience and also making sure I am sending out 2 emails a day to my subscriber list. Going on cam only happens when I am home, because that money is reinvested in high ticket affiliate marketing.
It's called high ticket affiliate marketing because of the sales funnel, get people in on a low offer where they buy , and then once they are in the sales funnel, they get email follow ups and they are working through the internet marketing bootcamp, with weekly motivation calls, and a private facebook group, and then also attending events.
What's interesting with these companies if a person can bring in sales the company recognizes them pretty quickly. as for what they they are selling, it's how to online marketing courses over and over. people love buying education and information.
I literally love EVERYTHING about marketing now! The sales funnels, seo, sales copy, it's all part of a huge fascinating puzzle that when you get bits right, you get more money :) i'm not as far along as you, but man i am so HAPPY working on this puzzle!
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
That's amazing! I've tried several nonadult things, affiliate marketing, selling ebooks, things like that but it ended up being a huge waste of my time, only made literally pennies a day so I gave it up. Can't seem to support myself unless I do cam.
It takes a lot of marketing, and learning how to do it can take a while and be harder than what you're probably used to with camming. But if i can do it anybody can :) i LOVE the book 'Crushing it' by Gary Vaynerchuck. Highly recommended read for anyone considering entrepreneurship!
Ps i've responded to those of you who pm'd x
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
sexysusie
I literally love EVERYTHING about marketing now! The sales funnels, seo, sales copy, it's all part of a huge fascinating puzzle that when you get bits right, you get more money :) i'm not as far along as you, but man i am so HAPPY working on this puzzle!
It takes a lot of marketing, and learning how to do it can take a while and be harder than what you're probably used to with camming. But if i can do it anybody can :) i LOVE the book 'Crushing it' by Gary Vaynerchuck. Highly recommended read for anyone considering entrepreneurship!
Ps i've responded to those of you who pm'd x
Could I get some more info too please?
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
That's amazing! I've tried several nonadult things, affiliate marketing, selling ebooks, things like that but it ended up being a huge waste of my time, only made literally pennies a day so I gave it up. Can't seem to support myself unless I do cam.
With the non adult affiliate marketing, ebook arena. there are a lot more opportunities and companies to promote. I tend to stick with companies who are in the done for you area. that way I only need to add in the pieces that fit for my target audience. with majority of it pre-built. I don't have to pull out my new natural hair out trying to figure it out :)
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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Originally Posted by
sexysusie
I literally love EVERYTHING about marketing now! The sales funnels, seo, sales copy, it's all part of a huge fascinating puzzle that when you get bits right, you get more money :) i'm not as far along as you, but man i am so HAPPY working on this puzzle!
It takes a lot of marketing, and learning how to do it can take a while and be harder than what you're probably used to with camming. But if i can do it anybody can :) i LOVE the book 'Crushing it' by Gary Vaynerchuck. Highly recommended read for anyone considering entrepreneurship!
Ps i've responded to those of you who pm'd x
OMG Gary Vee is everything, I watch his youtube daily! I really need to get his book soon!
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Re: Need to quit camming and need something with same earning potential and freedom
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naomi_doll
OMG Gary Vee is everything, I watch his youtube daily! I really need to get his book soon!
Isn't he just! I also love Amy Porterfield, Ramit Sethi, and the Femtrepreneur girls! Check em out if you want to be super inspired about marketing, online biz etc x