Building management found out (Ontario)
This will be a long one!!
So I work with another MA out of a 2br Condo that is very quiet and private. My side is against the elevator and hers is beside a really young guy who seemed really nice. Other than that, we have no neighbours in front of us. I even spoke casually with a neighbour way down the Hall, asked her name, how she likes the building etc. and she said she loves it, it's super quiet you can never hear any of the neighbours at all.
So. We get a notification from building management and landlord that they know what we're doing and even referenced my Twitter account (but oddly, not hers). We strongly suspect it was a former boss from the club where my partner and I met, who tipped the building off....
We denied the allegations and management replied that they will pursue legal actions if they get anymore "noise complaints". Which is why I definitely think it was our former manager, because a) our only neighbour is super young and doesn't seem at all like the type who would be bothered by it even he happened to hear it. And 2) If it were a neighbour how would they know to find my Twitter?? We only advertise on backpage (which is linked to my Twitter) and Lyla/cerb.
HELP!!! Should we move out and find separate incall locations before it escalates?
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Shannon, if you were looking for input solely from the ladies then please say so and I will delete this...
IMHO it sounds like it may be time to find another location. Doing this stuff in a residential building requires either that you be UTR or that management simply doesn't care, neither of which is the case for you now. Most residences really don't get that much foot traffic, so now that they are paying attention and have your Twitter account to boot, what's happening is probably fairly obvious. Net-net I doubt that this problem is going away. It is probably advisable for you to leave on your own terms before they escalate matters and force you to play defense.
In any event, good luck!
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Move out it doesn't matter who could have sent the landlord something do you really want to wait til they escalate it and take legal action
if they take legal action your new landlord can look up why you were evicted from your previous place.
So what if the young guy seemed nice you can't trust anyone when you are working indoors.
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Yup, sorry that happened to you. Move and / or find another in-call. A necessary evil in this illegal business. (Which is why saving for emergencies or 'rainy days' like this are advised.)
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Thanks for the advice guys!! We went to well respected law firm in the area and at the end of it, we decided we'll stay there until we get another notice (which I imagine will happen, my colleague remains unconvinced) and when they threaten legal action we will reply that we will leave quietly, and take the 30 days to find s new place. The lawyer said that prospective landlords cannot lookup if and why your were previously evicted.
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Excuse me if I sound clueless but what's MA? Massage? And I second Minnie's porno move now IMHO. They could call the cops or sabotage you in many other ways. The law won't be on your side.
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This is an old thread but not an unusual dilemma so I'm adding my 2 cents anyway. You do in fact have legal rights here. Landlords do not have the legal right to evict you for being a sex worker. Contact your local sex worker rights organization to learn what exactly your rights are (if you are in Toronto that's Maggie's). That said, I would move. Not worth the fight.
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^ Here in the U.S. most residential leases have provisions which prohibit both illegal conduct (which includes sex work in the U.S.) and use of the residence for commercial purposes. They were running a two girl massage service out of this condo, which was presumably both unlicensed and included happy endings, and the landlord had their advertisements to prove it (along with I'm sure ample evidence of foot traffic). The landlord most certainly could have initiated eviction proceedings.
And this doesn't even factor in LE risk. A stationary 2 girl unlicensed "massage" service running out of a residential condo is low hanging fruit, especially if the landlord cooperates with LE (which presumably they would).
The OP never updated us and how this ultimately shook out, but I hope that she got out of there before things got ugly.
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rickdugan
^ Here in the U.S. most residential leases have provisions which prohibit both illegal conduct (which includes sex work in the U.S.) and use of the residence for commercial purposes. They were running a two girl massage service out of this condo, which was presumably both unlicensed and included happy endings, and the landlord had their advertisements to prove it (along with I'm sure ample evidence of foot traffic). The landlord most certainly could have initiated eviction proceedings.
And this doesn't even factor in LE risk. A stationary 2 girl unlicensed "massage" service running out of a residential condo is low hanging fruit, especially if the landlord cooperates with LE (which presumably they would).
The OP never updated us and how this ultimately shook out, but I hope that she got out of there before things got ugly.
In Canada she has the legal right to sell sexual services and to do it out of her home. On paper, she has the legal right to do what she was doing, and local sex work advocacy organizations and their lawyers give advice in these situations all the time. On paper, she is legally in the clear. Her issue is that a legal right does not necessarily translate into an easy resolution on the ground. Social stigma factors in and a motivated landlord, or neighbour, or whoever, can make enough trouble that keeping the place is not worth the fight.
It is worth making clear that sex workers have rights here. Maybe she would be low-hanging fruit for LE in the US, but not in Ontario. Whether keeping the place is worth the fight or not is another issue, but SW in Canada is not criminalized in the same way as it is in the states. In a situation like that it is worth consulting with local sex work advocacy organizations to get credible legal advice.
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^ Ah - the thread said Ontario in the title. My bad, you obviously know more about Canadian rules than I do.