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Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
So, this is my first post on this forum. I've been a curious reader for about half year but never got myself to actually become a member here.
I told my boyfriend I want to start with camming, and after many discussions he finally agreed and let me try it out.
I am on Streamate, it works for me since MFC was a pure nightmare.
Now I did something I'm not sure was right - my ratings. I have 3 dollar exclusive and 2 dollar per pvt. I realized this can make me a maximum of 250 dollar a week... And for helping around the house and cover my expenses it's way too low.
I mean, I need to buy cigarettes, food, pay part of the rent and also sometimes something lovely for me.
I don't know why I had so low ratings, I guess I'm scared if I have higher no one will take me exclusive or pvt, and I will spend all my time infront of computer with NO money.
BF says he's not very sure I can make a living out of this, but I do want to prove him wrong and feel like I am no longer living off him and can finally be indepenent...
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
Those rates are way to low hun. Not only will you make more money by raising them you'll have to deal with a lot less assholes. Trust me on this one.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
I am totally a newbie on the camming-thing. But I'm really scared I will end up making no money if I raise them.
What is the typical rate for a new-to-cam-girl?
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
Hi and welcome to the forum.
First off yes your prices are ridiculously low so they need raising. If you need inspiration for this then take a look at the raise your rates challange thread, part of deciding what your price should be is to do with your online personaand where you want to take it. Sit down for the day and do some serious math on what and where you want to being earning and calculate from there. The top models do not make top money with low rates.
Second you will need to set up your promotion if you havent already done this, this can be done via twitter, having your iwn site, tumblr etc there are some great threads on here so take a good look round and draw some ideas and go with them.
Also take a look at passive income such as clips, membership and selling items to your fans, again some great ideas on here. I always like a good plan put in place first rhen go with the flow as it gives me something to work towards and if part of my promotions or shows do not do well then i can always go back and edit with new ideas. Im quite analytical like that lol.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
I started out with 3pvt and 4 ex, and according to a lot of ladies that was still to low. Currently I charge 4.39 pvt/5.39 Exclusive but I have really crappy internet so I can't stream in HD. If I could do that I would charge more. There's a rate thread on here somewhere. Let me see if I can find it and bump it for you.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
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Originally Posted by
MissCavalli
I am totally a newbie on the camming-thing. But I'm really scared I will end up making no money if I raise them.
What is the typical rate for a new-to-cam-girl?
A lot of times cam girls think "I'll just keep my rates super low, so more guys will spend and stay in private sessions longer." But often times when you have low rates, you attract the cheap, demanding, rude, entitled assholes who only wanna spend like ten bucks total on you, so they can do these bullshit 3-minute private shows and cum real fast.
When I was on Streamate, I charged $5.99/minute for exclusive and I think $9.99/minute for premium. I did that because I actually liked exclusive more than premium, so I made premium a higher price to try to discourage guys from choosing it. Lol. You don't have to do it like that though.
Don't feel bad about raising your rates. Remember...you're only getting 35% of the money.
Plus, on the cam site MyFreeCams there are a lot of guys paying $6 a minute on private shows and $8 a minute on true private shows.
No matter what you charge, you'll eventually get some bozo in your room complaining "You're too expensive." But you are not Walmart. It isn't your job to give these guys rollback prices.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
$4-$5/min are decent rates for SM Premium and for Exclusive u can add 1-$2 above the premium rate, these fees are in the medium range not high.
Good luck!
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
Your rate is very low, if you have a good webcam, computer and the highest internet speed you can buy you should be charging more.
I am at 5.99 premium and 7.99 exclusive reason being is I get quality over quantity. I am getting guys spending about 10 to 20 minutes with me in paid chat time. no I don't have a room full of people but when I get guys in there and I get to talk to them they are spending a good time with me. so my focus is only one guys who are serious about getting a show or thinking i am their soon to be wife.
As for the boyfriend his opinion doesn't matter he is not doing the work so what he says about he has no valid point. Yes it might sound harsh and horrible, but he hasn't got a clue of what you are doing and what is normal, becuase this is a business that is very individualize.
You need time to focus on this and be able to do it without his buzzing in your hear making you feel unconfident about it . You need to devote your time in it see what you can do and what is your average and what is your best day and also what is your worst.
notice how many times I say YOU and Your because that is what you need to focus on . its YOU not him and his non sense and BS unless he is going to make his own cam account and work in another room while you work in the other he has no business giving an opinion on the numbers and activities.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
Wow, thank you for the replies!
I raised them now, 3,99 pvt and 4,99 exclusive. I am really nervous about tomorrows shift, I do have some regulars but I really want to prove my BF wrong.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
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Originally Posted by
MissCavalli
Wow, thank you for the replies!
I raised them now, 3,99 pvt and 4,99 exclusive. I am really nervous about tomorrows shift, I do have some regulars but I really want to prove my BF wrong.
If, for some reason, things don't go as well as you'd hoped tomorrow, don't let that turn you away. Stick with it. This is a sales job, and even people "in real life" outside of cam who work commission sales jobs have days where they don't make their normal quota.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
One thing to remember is while yes regulars are important they're like milk in that eventually they expire lol and have to be replaced so if those regulars get their panties in a wad about your new rates there will be other guys that won't.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
We've seen almost 800 models come and go on just SM in the last few years. I have yet to see a case where having low rates made anyone more money. If I could wave a magic wand or was more of a control freak, I wouldn't let anyone sell themselves cheaper there than $5/minute...its a free market though and everyone voluntarily participates how they wish. We've seen enough cases to know that cheap rates just brings cheap and picky clients that will think nothing of down-rating you. They place value on you based on what they perceive they paid, they won't think more of you because you're a "bargain girl"...just the opposite.
Luxury items follow their own rules as far as economics. When you're buying and selling commodities like rice or gasoline, everyone's looking to save a few cents on the kg or gallon. When you talk about luxury items, the cost is its own selling point. Nobody sits around the country club bragging about their cheap watch or how little they paid for their sports car.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
I admire you ladies who really see what you're worth :)
I guess I have problem with that, I am scared of sitting for five hours making nothing. But those rates I had before will not work to make camming a living.
I tried to think "3 dollar exclusive, that's 30 dollar for 10 minutes", and yes, its damn low ;P
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
at 30-35%, $3/min exclusive is $10 for 10 minutes. Consider that the "average" time in paid is around 25%, you're looking at $12-15/hour average...ymmv. You charge $6, which is still reasonable for exclusive, you doubled your paycheck to around $25-30/hour, which is more of a living wage.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
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Originally Posted by
MissCavalli
Wow, thank you for the replies!
I raised them now, 3,99 pvt and 4,99 exclusive. I am really nervous about tomorrows shift, I do have some regulars but I really want to prove my BF wrong.
I think that is still too low for a site like SM, but at least better than what you were charging. If that is you in the photo, wow you are gorgeous.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
Streamate offers one of the lowest percentages in the industry aside from their affiliate system, so it's vital to compensate yourself for a fair wage. Lower rates attract cheaper customers most of the time.. and cheaper customers are normally more irritating. Know your worth. I agree with Laurie, that still seems too low, and if you're trying to make ends meet...catch our drift?
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
I will also reiterate that camming can be slow as hell at times. It's important to have a few sites to have as backups. You did say that you attempted MFC. Have you tried Chaturbate? Cams? Naked? Have you made clips? Looked into phone sex? Indy work? Do you promote yourself? Most importantly, are you confident? If you are dedicated to making more then $250 a week, it will happen. If I used only one site, not only would I go crazy, but my earnings would plummet. This isn't always the case for everyone, some are super successful on just one site (I salute you!). Tons of other gals use multiple site to create their income. I hope you find this helpful and not offensive, and good luck to you
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
I was once in your shoes, started camming just last october and started with 2.99 pvt and 3.99 exclusive. I literally raised my rates the next day and my traffic did not change at all. Another thing is right now you're in the new model category, which can be REALLY good for traffic, so take advantage of it and get yourself some good regulars that arn't cheap-os. The other girls have all already gone through all the good reasons to raise your rates so I wont repeat them, but they are all great reasons:) Keep us updated on your progress!
P.S. While I think its an amazing idea to have more than one website so to not put all your eggs in one basket, I will play devils advocate and say theres nothing wrong with sticking to one site either. I started on streamate and have stayed on that and only that and have never not made daily goal (honestly don't know how, some days it's pure luck). You just have to find the site/sites that work for you
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
My two cents. Guys who are shopping based on rates aren't the custies you want. You want the guys who want you who are willing to pay for you, no matter the cost. THOSE are your regulars. There are guys who spend thousands of dollars on cam A WEEK. Don't count the money in their wallet. Raise your excl to your max rate you have available right now, and make your pvt 2 bucks less and offer a LOT LESS in pvt (no anal if you do it, no fetish if you do it, no penetration if you do it) and do NOT DO IT in pvt if they take you. Tell them, no, that's only in excl and stand firm on that shit.
This is your room, your rules, and guys know that and will try to take advantage of you if you are new and don't know how to manage your room.
Another thing NEVER be afraid to ban/ kick/ or reject any show that you want. You will hate your life if you think you HAVE to take that show.
AND if there is any show you ever don't (really) want to do (but eh, I could), make them do it in a block excl session. That'll chase off the cheapo 2 minute guys and, hey at least it's 15 minutes.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
Bah...
so my first shift with higher rates.
Seems like only idiots are on, one even complained it was 4 dollar per minute! And asked if I can come in 60 seconds...
goooosh, they keep on talking but no one wants a show.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
just stick at it. don't lower your rates. if they bitch ignore them. and pay lots of attention to those that seem interested and don't bitch about it.
they will always complain. there will always be buyers.... you just need to build the patience to wait for them to go fishie swimming by you and do your best to snag them out. stick to your guns. good luck!
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
My rates are 4.99 pvt, 6.99 excl. I don´t think I would have more privates if I lower my rates, I think if someone reeeaally wants a show with you, he will buy it anyway and if he´s broke, he will freeload anyway.
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
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Originally Posted by
Kitcatt
My two cents. Guys who are shopping based on rates aren't the custies you want.
Yup. I'm not on Streamate anymore, but I suspected that the guys who blurted out "$5.99 A MINUTE? ARE YOU CRAZY?" immediately upon entering my room were cheap assholes who go around checking all the models' prices. *rolls eyes* This ain't Walmart, buddy boy. You ain't gettin' no rollback prices here, so run along...
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Re: Boyfriend knows - Now I will try to live on camming - are my ratings too low?
When the boyfriend starts camming & makes $1000 a week or more then listen to him.
New girls are always hit by the predators & cheapasses who try to train you into doing everything for the lowest prices or for free.
Look at this way, Walmart is great, but how to the people there treat the store in general? Seen way to many people argue with the prices even as low as they are to get it cheaper at the register.---------------- Now go shopping at Nieman Marcus where a purse on sale could be $700 & plenty of buyers will pass it by because it is last seasons & go for full price new purse at $2000. Everyone who shops there is very careful with the merchandise & you wont find items tossed onto the floor.
Now, both store make money but what kind of shopper do you want? Money guys don't give bargain basement girls a second glance. So your man tells you to be bargain basement, that will tell you how much he values you. Don't make the mistake of thinking because ya'll don't have money to spend on this kind of thing that the guys who log onto these sites don't either.
Truth be told you are to new to have regulars. I have regulars for over 2 yrs, 4 yrs, 6 yr, 10 yrs & up to 12 yrs in camming. Do they buy in on my $6 gold shows for 6 minutes, yes.... Do some of them wait till I charge $10 or more for the same gold 6 minute gold show, YES!!! I never go cheaper, I just get more expensive as the day goes on. I teach them to buy in now or pay more later. Surprisingly enough lots of them love to pay more later.
But when you feel desperate & just go cheaper when not making money they smell it & just wait you out until almost free. The ladies who advise you here have years of experience talking, take their word over any man's 24/7.
Better yet, have your man sign up & cam himself. Let him find out for himself just how it works.
Smooches,
Sam