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why does everyone hate "extras" girls?
i'm really curious why there's so much disdain for the girls who DO do sexual favors for customers? isn't it just thier hustle? i'm like... not even a newbie im a newbie-to-be so i don't want to sound insensitive or clueless in anyway. i'm not new to sexwork, having done escorting & sugaring since basically the day i turned 18 last year. i honestly can see myself providing extra services to customers for the right (and i mean RIGHT) price bc it's just something i'm kind of used too just of course not in a strip club setting. aaaaand the clubs i'm looking at down here in Miami are rumored to be "extras heavy"
i hope this q makes sense and im not stepping on any toes.
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Probably because it's illegal... That would be my guess. LOL
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Honestly I totally think prostitution should be decriminalized at the very least and I have respect for girls who run that game. However, at my club in San Diego that kind of stuff attracted a ton of heat to the club, and everyone else got caught up in police bullshit because chicks were too fucking lazy to find clients elsewhere. Aside from the obvious legal liability (same opinion on drugs, do them, whatever, just in your car outside of the club), it's basic principles of economics: supply and demand.
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Because if they are doing extras it would be expected all girls do in the club and someone who's focused on just dancing who would be asked by countless custies for something they don't offer can be extremely annoying.
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Thank you! i agree that lots of discretion should be used if you do something like that. therwise you're
putting literally so many people in danger.
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My perspective is a little bit different because I live in a country were prostitution is noy illegal, however it is linked to human traffic and sexual slavery.
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It is because it fucks with the money of clean girls. If you are dancing in Miami and doing extras you are likely in the majority anyway so don't let that shit get to you. Clean dancers in So Fla will make less money and they know it but it's a choice we all make. Stay safe in this storm girlie!!
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For some, it's because it fucks up the market in the stripclub. If a girl is offering a BJ for 20 and you're only offering a legal dance, that's creating a very uneven playng field where the legal dancer loses out.
Reason number 2 is that it's illegal and a non-extras girl can get caught up in a bust.
And sometimes a lot of slut-shamey sex work hierarchy plays into it. ("I only take my clothes off, not fuck for money, I'm a classier sex worker").
i personally have no problems w prostituition and I've escorted before, but not in the club, they are best kept seperate. Although what an "extra" is depends on the club environment and legal guidelines of the state
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Tnetennba
Honestly I totally think prostitution should be decriminalized at the very least and I have respect for girls who run that game. However, at my club in San Diego that kind of stuff attracted a ton of heat to the club, and everyone else got caught up in police bullshit because chicks were too fucking lazy to find clients elsewhere. Aside from the obvious legal liability (same opinion on drugs, do them, whatever, just in your car outside of the club), it's basic principles of economics: supply and demand.
I'm in San Diego too. Yes, I do not want to compete with an extras girl. I'm not willing to do just whatever and risk my job or the jobs of others.
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Being in a strip club isn't about selling sexual favors. Doing so ruins it for everyone. Once everyone starts doing extras then it becomes the race to the bottom. Then girls are trying to win customers with beating the next girls price and then eventually you get guys saying "no I dont want a $20 dance, that other girl will blow me for $20." Or "that girl said she would blow me for $20, you're going to have to do better than that and do it for $10. Doing extras in the club hands over all negotiation power to the man.
If you want to escort don't do it in the club. With greater reward comes greater risk. Extras girls are annoying because they want to play both sides of the fence. They want the security of the club and the reward of the escort. No if you want the greater reward you should be willing to take the greater risk and do it outside.
Stripclubs are supposed to sell sexuality not sex.
Im a clean dancer in South Florida. No not in Miami or surrounding cities. I won't disclose my club because we are a tight knit group of girls who are like family with no issues and no drama so I don't need an influx of random girls showing up to my club. But we are all clean, there are cameras in all our rooms. Management doesn't play that shit. You will get suspended and fined if they even find out that you exchanged contact info with a customer. A girl in the room next to me got yanked out of the room by a manager for kissing a customer. I easily make 1k+ a night there with no extras. No offense to escorts, but it cracks me up when I see posts how like the going escort rate is what, like $300/hr or less? Or how escorts are talking about how the most they have ever made in a day is 1k. I just don't get it. I make more per hour in the champagne room to receive a back massage and drink champagne. I don't have to risk law enforcement, safety, STDs etc.
Why risk all that for 1k or less per day when you can make the same in the club? It's common for me to get between 5k-10k offers for a night. I haven't taken them up, but best believe that if I was going to risk all that it would have to be in the $5k-10k range per session. In life you only get what you think you deserve.
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Moved out of newbie area. Hoping this stays civil.
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Are you for real?! we REAL strippers HATE extras girls because girls like you comes into our clubs and ruin our customers and disrespect our profession! SMH.... you stick to your escorting and sugaring and stay the fuck away from stripclubs, the last thing we need is another clueless hoe selling $20 BJs....
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NakedNicole
I easily make 1k+ a night there with no extras. No offense to escorts, but it cracks me up when I see posts how like the going escort rate is what, like $300/hr or less? Or how escorts are talking about how the most they have ever made in a day is 1k. I just don't get it. I make more per hour in the champagne room to receive a back massage and drink champagne. I don't have to risk law enforcement, safety, STDs etc.
Exactly why strip clubs & exotic dancers are losing its value . Why pay $1k on a room with no sexual favors when they can just get it for a couple of hundred bucks... I make good money as a dancer & regularly make around $1k a night... But from what older dancers tell me is that years ago, that would be laughable & considered a bad night to only make that much . & I can't help thinking dancers who provide extras are to blame (along with other things that has taken place throughout the years)
My issue with dancers who provide extras is that they are changing the game entirely, slowly but surely . It is no longer truly Exotic Dancing . & too many escorts are in the clubs trying to pick up business... Go to a brothel . Why make minimum as an escort trying to gather business inside of a strip club when you can go to a legal brothel & make $1k or so per session . I don't get it .
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I can't really add much, but just want to throw in support for what has already been said. We who don't do extras do not want to compete with those that do.
Furthermore, you are putting your health in danger for a marginal amount of money. If you want to escort, prostitute, or be a sugar baby then don't do it in the club and be smart about it. Get your Johns screened, and always use protection, but don't get on your knees for a 20 and risk catching a lifelong infection. Even with condom you can still get herpes and hpv. Think, sweetheart. Don't be a fool!
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I actually don't hate extras girls. I am lucky to live in an area where girls do their own thing and we don't compete with each other. Extras are rampant but it's generally the less desirable dancers who resort to them to make money. The top earners are still clean and generally have longer careers ahead of them. The cops don't mess with the clubs. The owners take their cut from the extras. And it is all very civil.
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um damn. 1.) who said anything about me selling bjs for 20$. i'm not some crackhead lookin for any change i can get 2.) as i said, BOTH (correction: not both. just 1 but my point still stands) of the clubs im looking at from literally everything i've read about say they are all very much extras heavy. i'm pretty and smart and can get away with not but if i DO if someone offers a good amount i don't see the big ass deal.
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and just to add: if a club is very serious about a "no extras" rule i won't go in and be a ~*~ clueless hoe ~*~. i just feel if im in an environment where they don't give a fuck and every other girl does it, i may consider it. when in rome. even than.. no sex of any kind and no 20$ bjs *rolls eyes*
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What chaps my ass are girls who do them right in front of you and your customer. I don't need my customer getting ideas, just bc she did it.
CHEAP AS FUCK extras. OMG. I pay 200 every night to work, and there's that chic sucking raw strange dick for a very low price. Stop doing this, for real. Girls like that ruin shit. So then every dude thinks it's normal.
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Or, instead of poisoning our clubs you can just sign with an escort agency? Or post a Craig's list add or whatever you prostitutes do?
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girl just take ur angry self OUT of my thread. you're contributing nothing informative or even slightly helpful tbh. also you sound slut-shamey af and i'm not here for that all. goodbye
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Vyanka
CHEAP AS FUCK extras. OMG. I pay 200 every night to work, and there's that chic sucking raw strange dick for a very low price. Stop doing this, for real. Girls like that ruin shit. So then every dude thinks it's normal.
No, no! This hoe is super smart and she will charge super much (IN MIAMI LOL), she's not like all them other cheap hoes we deal with on a regular basis. LOL!
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angely
girl just take ur angry self OUT of my thread. you're contributing nothing informative or even slightly helpful tbh. also you sound slut-shamey af and i'm not here for that all. goodbye
You wanted a answer to why strippers hate extras girls, what'd you expect? "Go for it girl! Please come to my club and show me how to suck a dick?". obviously you can't even handle the thruth online, you'll have a rude awekening in the dressin room. You're so clueless I feel sorry for you.
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THIS is helpful. Thank you Nicole ^^. As, I said in my original post, I'm very much new to this side of the industry and want to know as much as I can before I really go into it so I didn't mean to ask an offensive question. I'm very smart and pretty and know I can get away just fine without having to provide any extra service, I was just curious honestly and wanted to know different peoples take on such a controversial issue. I guess me saying "i can see myself doing it for the right price if i'm in a club where every girl does it and no one would care" translates too "im a dumb whore here to destroy all stripclubs by sucking and fucking any dude for 20$" like..... no.
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Angely, can you just share with us your opinion of why you are interested in perhaps preforming extras in the stripclub as opposed to working as an independent escort, or with an agency, or at a brothel?
If you're going to hook in the club atleast do the actual service elsewhere. Like you tell the guy hey, spend $500 in the room now and let's get comfortable with eachother and i know you're serious and then give me another $500 when I come to your place later. At least that way you are still training guys to spend money in the club and teach them that sex is not an option in the club.
I worked at an extras club that was nasty. Trust me the extras girls weren't getting rich by any means. It was a health hazards for everyone. There was black curtained rooms with black lights. So many people were getting jacked off in the rooms that their cum was dripping all down the walls and glowing brightly under the lights. Every room looked like it got splattered with a bunch of white paint but it was all built up amounts of dried cum all over the walls, curtain, and carpet. I would often find used condoms as well.
In the champagne room a girl was letting a customer fuck her in the ass and when he pulled his dick our, she exploded shit all over the room. The bouncers had to come in and clean the shit off the furniture.
It's not a nice environment to work in. Seriously, I'm not judging if you prefer to escort. I've even said before that I would consider escorting under certain circumstances. My point is that even if you would like to escort, preforming sexual acts in the club or where other girls do so will not be beneficial to your business and if everyone under one roof is fucking you will not get top dollar. The reason I get 10k offers is because I don't fuck and they know that. They are willing to pay whatever I want because I "don't normally do that" so that factor makes me appear to be a special snowflake and they want me more because when I turned down their first 1k offer they knew I wasn't just another hoe who fucks everyone. If everyone in the club is offering the same service though, your only negotiation chip is price. In an extras heavy club your price will get driven lower and lower.
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It's not something i'm interested in, persay. if i was only interested in providing sex i'd go on an actual escorting website. it may have sounded like i'm just going to become a stripper to solicit men for sex and i totally didn't mean to come across that way! I meant it more in a "if the chance arises and the price works for me" kind of way. Now, I know that's not an effective way of thinking and won't really get me anywhere. I think the best solution for me is to avoid a extras heavy club in the first place so I wouldn't even have to do anything like that, ever. That sounds like a literal nightmare yuuuuuck EW.
You sound really amazing and ty for the amazing advice!! I made another thread about the two clubs I was looking at (I'm a student and I don't have a car and cant go very far so my only options are like.. Very few clubs) and asked what they were like and a girl told me one of them didn't allow any extra's so now Im just going to audition there and not risk it at a trashy sloppy place.