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I have no issue with escorts and prostitutes........as long as it's done out of the club. I have friends who strictly escort and don't set foot in a strip club and I'm perfectly fine with them and what they do. Do your thing.
With that being said, I think that's how it should stay. As mentioned above it's not fair for the girls who are trying to make money strictly with stage and lapdances to have to compete with girls selling cheap blow jobs in the open dance area, or trying to sell a champagne room to a guy and have him refuse to go if he's not going to get sex because the last girl had sex with him. For example.....I once had a guy walk out of a 2 for 1 special with me and try to demand his money back because I wouldn't have sex with him.......for 40 dollars. This is the kind of thing regular non extras dancers DON'T want to deal with and girls who are doing this are making our job much harder and more stressful.
Like I mentioned above, I have no issue with escorts but I DO have an issue with girls selling sex and blow jobs in the club because I think they should be separate things.
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Girl, really? You seem like you have enough brains to get it. Why did this need to be asked?
1) It poisons the club slowly. If you are the first girl to offer extras, pretty soon customers start asking other girls for extras, girls who also may be new and have your mentality of "Well if the price is right", and then THEY start doing it, and it becomes an epidemic where you only have dudes who want extras & the clean girls can't make anything. Now the whole club is done-zo for clean dancers.
2) It attracts law enforcement attention. We have a club here that is notorious and it gets busted at least yearly; here you just get a big ass fine and a civil ticket, but other states may not be so lax & you could get arrested and a misdemeanor. Not only do you the extras girl get in trouble, you may get other dancers arrested just for being present & at the least have their day ruined, if they don't get charges as well just because of increased scrutiny... i.e., they may not be doing any true extras but now LE is in the building and probably looking for any technicalities (say, hands brushing breasts accidentally, taking tips in a garter, etc.) just to get the most arrests/tickets for their time. Now you've got yourself a nice fat criminal charge to follow you for life, AND fucked over all the clean girls again.
3) Do you REALLY want to do extras? Because guess what happens if you do it for one customer... either other girls will see that and rumors will get around (and if you have regular club clientele, they will hear them & start to seek you out for extras), or that one customer will go write that shit on TUSCL and pretty soon you'll have dudes coming in to request them. You will be pigeonholed as an extras girl and it's nearly impossible to clean yourself up once you get a reputation. You do not want that reputation either with staff or customers. I've never seen a girl successfully stop doing extras without having to change clubs... the guys that want them stop seeing her & the guys that aren't into extras already have it firmly in their mind that she is a dirty dancer and aren't interested either.
4) It's stupid financially. Go be an escort and charge $300/hour, don't pay the club $100 a night to work and then give $20 hand jobs. You are not going to meet many guys who will pay escort money for ITC extras. If you want to do extras, do it right both safety-wise and financially, in the context of being an escort.
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girl just take ur angry self OUT of my thread. you're contributing nothing informative or even slightly helpful tbh. also you sound slut-shamey af and i'm not here for that all.
Please don't be nasty to our senior members. While that was not the most polite post from Stella, you should understand that this is a community of 99% clean dancers & we generally 'don't take kindly' to anyone wanting to do extras (for ANY reason.. there is no 'price is right' exception). This forum is NOT slut-shamey; we have many escorts here; but they operate their business outside of our clubs as it should be.
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I corrected myself already but thank you for the information regardless. Also, that wasn't me being nasty at all. I, along with many other people in this world, don't take to kindly to being called a dumbass clueless hoe. I didn't know being a senior member all of a sudden meant being extremely rude to a newbie was justified. Don't get me wrong I have a thick skin and I'm not going to go cry about it but still. I'm sorry I asked a dumb question but I really can't rationalize that response.
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angely
I corrected myself already but thank you for the information regardless. Also, that wasn't me being nasty at all. I, along with many other people in this world, don't take to kindly to being called a dumbass clueless hoe. I didn't know being a senior member all of a sudden meant being extremely rude to a newbie was justified. Don't get me wrong I have a thick skin and I'm not going to go cry about it but still. I'm sorry I asked a dumb question but I really can't rationalize that response.
You certainly were nasty.
No, being a senior member does not justify being 'extremely rude'. BUT it is kind of a bad idea to come somewhere as a complete stranger with no posts, and ask a question (especially one that common sense could solve & is obviously a hot-button issue) & then mouth off to someone who's been a contributing member for 5 years.
If you were a new bartender and asked a silly question like "Why don't we re-use dirty glasses", and the head bartender got a bit short with you, I highly doubt you would immediately fire off a nasty comment to her. You'd lose your job immediately. Same principle applies here. Next time you need help, people WILL remember this thread...
She did not call you a 'dumbass clueless hoe'. Don't exaggerate and put words in people's mouths.
I'm bowing out and letting Charlie or Aurora handle this.
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She did in fact call me dumb and a clueless hoe. I didn't write it verbatim but she DID say that. I'm mouthy now for simply defending myself and ontop of it lying on other people liiiike okay I guess o_O? Next time I need help I'd hope people would just... ya know.. help? I don't know the inner workings of strip clubs, like most "civillians" and I didn't know it was common sense to know how the industry works from only an outsiders point of view. Anyone would know why it's bad to re-use dirty glasses, bartender-to-be or not, tbh. Aside from "it's illegal", I didn't really know the main reasons as to why extras were so looked down upon even if it was kept discreet etc. I never started frequenting stripper forums and threads until like, 3 days ago, & would've appreciated a more detailed rundown on how the whole "extras" parts work. Whenever I see those types of girls mentioned it's mostly just people talking about how gross and cheap they are but with not much other backing. Of course now I've been enlightened and changed my way of thinking about this with a quickness soooo not sure why people are still acting like I'm some type of troll. I'm so confused as to how this all escalated to this. I didn't come here to argue and I'm assuming neither did you so I'm just going to leave it here.
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i think the best way to put this, as I explained to a bartender who has never stripped, was I have no personal issue with prostitution, and believe if someone wants to do that they should be allowed to and nobody should go to jail if everyone involved is a consenting adult BUT it has no place at the titty bar because it devalues the service we sell (lapdances, entertainment, company).
How I explained it to said bartender, is I have no issues with strippers (Duh, im a stripper). However, If I was bartending at a big bar that was not a strip club with two bars, and the bartender of the other bar decided to start bartending topless when it was illegal (in lots of places it is illegal for employees to be topless) and offered complementary lapdances when people bought 5 shots, I would be pissed as shit. Not because I have an issue with topless women or lapdancing, but because her bar would get more customers and tips which would take away from my bar, when I was operating within the reasonable parameters of my job (serving drinks and being fun/flirtatious).
so that's why. Its competition we don't need in an already competitive market. And it brings customemrs to sometimes get aggressive when they expect a level of "service" that isn't provided. Granted ,any customer who gets aggressive, its really on them to learn how to be respectful, but it brings out the worst in people who are already prone to being assholes. Plus, IMO, the vibe of a clean club and an extras club are wildly different. One is more about entertainment and fantasy, the other environment tends to flat out just be seedy.
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If you're pretty, know how to make a sale & personable, you don't need/have to provide extras . Don't have the mindset of "for the right price". Being that I don't escort, I get offers all the time . It always starts with about $1k & the offer only goes up when you turn them down . If you're interested in doing both, be strategic about it . You'll make enough money dancing . Get the guy to offer up to several thousands for the session ("since you're young & don't do this") & make sure you do your research on him to make sure he isn't a cop or anything... & I'd suggest not doing extras in the club . Dancers who provide extras never directly hurt my business because I find the customer starts with me & spends plenty of bucks for the tease & arousal then goes to the extras girl to get a HJ afterwards . However, I feel every position & every person in the sex industry works for each other . If we all can't get our numbers correct we will all end up diminishing in the long run .
If you're even thinking of doing extras & have escorted in the past, why the sudden change ? You can go to a brothel like the bunny ranch & make thousands any day you work . My only suggestion is to always make top dollar, that's all .
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Jaylenn
If you're pretty, know how to make a sale & personable, you don't need/have to provide extras . Don't have the mindset of "for the right price". Being that I don't escort, I get offers all the time . It always starts with about $1k & the offer only goes up when you turn them down . If you're interested in doing both, be strategic about it . You'll make enough money dancing . Get the guy to offer up to several thousands for the session ("since you're young & don't do this") & make sure you do your research on him to make sure he isn't a cop or anything... & I'd suggest not doing extras in the club . Dancers who provide extras never directly hurt my business because I find the customer starts with me & spends plenty of bucks for the tease & arousal then goes to the extras girl to get a HJ afterwards . However, I feel every position & every person in the sex industry works for each other . If we all can't get our numbers correct we will all end up diminishing in the long run .
If you're even thinking of doing extras & have escorted in the past, why the sudden change ? You can go to a brothel like the bunny ranch & make thousands any day you work . My only suggestion is to always make top dollar, that's all .
Thank you for the info! and its kiiind of a long story i don't even think it's worth delving into it. i want to get away from full on escorting for a while due to trauma in the past, basically. i recently moved and stripping is the best choice for me now. i, of course, changed my mind about providing any extras at any cost but atleast if i did it wouldn't have been sex. the bunny ranch sounds super cool but i live in Miami :(
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Took like five minutes for this to get ugly. I'm not surprised.
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^just wanted to chime in :-) Def do a search on here about the bunny ranch. You'll see its not that fabulous. Most ladies choose to escort and be more independent. You can be very successful doing that if you're interested in providing sexual services for the right price.
Personally, I frequent the bunny ranch a couple times a year with a significant other for fun. It's not that great for the working girls. We get a couples party for around 300 to 400 for 30 min. They only keep half. Then they pay taxes, medical fees, licencing fees, lube, condoms, room and board etc. There also isn't much traffic. There are days when only one customer comes in for a lineup. The cathouse HBO series has fooled many women. I've visited for nearly 4 years now. Generally new girls come in and stay for less than a month and never return. That says a lot about their business.
Whatever you do, I wish you luck! Do what you want and don't let anyone put you down if you want to give extras/ escort(Although I hope you keep stripping and extras separate ;-)
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oh wow thank you!! i was thinking in my head like "maybe one random summer vacay i could fly up there and check it out" but i guess not. i know now that's not the right thing to do and i will do that :) i'm going to my first audition in a week or two (depending on when i can buy new outfits/nails done/waxing etc and i want to work on my flexibility more. i'm kind of a perfectionist) & i really can't wait!
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Maybe you can become something besides a stripper in the adult industry? Maybe you can try camming, phone sex, or even sugaring? Because you might want to ease into stripping if you believe that extras is the way to go.:) Maybe you can look into giving body rubs as well?Because becoming an extra girl at a strip club can hurt your stripping career and everyone will know you as that girl. Sugaring is like escorting's chaste little sister. It has the making of escorting but it is more emotionally charged and you must invested more time. Particularly, if you are a non sexual sugar baby...then emotional intimacy and romantic illusions must make up for physical intimacy. Always remember to ask for a high allowance if you are going to have sex with your sugar daddy. :)
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angely
Thank you for the info! and its kiiind of a long story i don't even think it's worth delving into it. i want to get away from full on escorting for a while due to trauma in the past, basically. i recently moved and stripping is the best choice for me now. i, of course, changed my mind about providing any extras at any cost but atleast if i did it wouldn't have been sex. the bunny ranch sounds super cool but i live in Miami :(
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I have to admit that I was apprehensive to even read this thread.
I was relieved that most of the replies seem thoughtful and civil.
Extras in my area have always been on the forefront and spiraled out of control until several clubs in my area were shut down and the owners prosecuted. I quit dancing partly because I no longer could compete. I wasn't willing to go the extra mile (pun intended).
I am employed by my old club and we are attempting to change into more of a "gentlemen's club" without the rampant extras that are expected in a couple of other clubs in the city. The demographic around our club is becoming more affluent and attracting new customers. Those customers are more willing to accept having a beautiful girl by their side without the old style "dances".
Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I hope it works!
To the OP, thank you for asking the question. The answers have been interesting.
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DonaDiabla
Maybe you can become something besides a stripper in the adult industry? Maybe you can try camming, phone sex, or even sugaring? Because you might want to ease into stripping if you believe that extras is the way to go.:) Maybe you can look into giving body rubs as well?Because becoming an extra girl at a strip club can hurt your stripping career and everyone will know you as that girl. Sugaring is like escorting's chaste little sister. It has the making of escorting but it is more emotionally charged and you must invested more time. Particularly, if you are a non sexual sugar baby...then emotional intimacy and romantic illusions must make up for physical intimacy. Always remember to ask for a high allowance if you are going to have sex with your sugar daddy. :)
sugaring *shudders* it was kind of my gateway into escorting honestly and it was kind of interchangeable as men (who were supposed to be "sugardaddies") would just offer me money for sex right off the bat without the "emotional" aspect to it. if no sex was involved, i'd get nothing. even if i like hadn't eaten anything and couldn't afford money to get to class.. trufax. i really didn't like dealing with sugar daddies and how emotionally abusive they all seem to get :( i won't lie when i first got to Miami i tried pushing my bad memories and abusive "relationships" to the back of my mind and just try to make some shmoney but meh. didn't really work out bc i realised how dumb i was being real quick. i partially blame the fact i was young, desperate, and just kind of lost so i didn't care how they acted but sugaring is definitely not my thing. at least for now. once again, this is the story with 0 detail and i'd prefer to not talk about it. i've done internet sex work (i sold content on manyvids) but i hated the belligerent cheap fuckboys begging for free stuff all the time. it's hard for me to be patient when it's over the internet. i think i'm better with more irl stuff? like i got good money but it got so tiring :/ i may start camming along side stripping but i imagine the online effboys to be rampant on camsites too.. possibly even worse. (i have many camgirl friends and they tell me alot) i had an ex-friend who did body rubs but she lived in NY and there were more opportunities for that and she makes pretty good money. sadly, in Miami it's just like chinese 30$ rubs and there's alot of connections to human traffickin...
i don't believe extras is the way to go. when i originally made this thread i didn't understand the hatred for extras girls & thought that if it was done very discreetly in a club that didn't care anyway than i was open to doing some things for $$$ and it should've been fine, right? i thought the hatred against extras was like some uppity slutshamey "i'm better than you because i don't fuck" type of thing. now i know it doesn't work that way and i misunderstood.
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[QUOTE=charlie61;2925688]Took like five minutes for this to get ugly. I'm not surprised.[/QUOTE
A few of the replies were really nasty, but on the whole, my interpretation is that most tried to be helpful.
Maybe my expectations were so low that I was surprised it wasn't a COMPLETE shit fest. lol
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[QUOTE=PinkMinx;2925701]
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Took like five minutes for this to get ugly. I'm not surprised.[/QUOTE
A few of the replies were really nasty, but on the whole, my interpretation is that most tried to be helpful.
Maybe my expectations were so low that I was surprised it wasn't a COMPLETE shit fest. lol
yes & i'm greatful for the people who did decide to just stay polite & actually help me out. in my head i'm like "why be like that on a forum meant to help out all strippers and is kind of here to create a camaraderie between girls in the sex work community." i get people are tired of it but dang i just didn't understand. no need to belittle my intelligence and call names. we get stigmatized and bullied enough for the line of work we choose to do.
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yes & i'm greatful for the people who did decide to just stay polite & actually help me out. in my head i'm like "why be like that on a forum meant to help out all strippers and is kind of here to create a camaraderie between girls in the sex work community." i get people are tired of it but dang i just didn't understand. no need to belittle my intelligence and call names. we get stigmatized and bullied enough for the line of work we choose to do.
I admit my comments were nasty. I could've taken the time and explained it all in a nicer way but honestly, your question was extremely stupid to me. You say you have thick skin but if you're offended by my comments that's nothing compared to what you'll get from the other girls in the DR when they realize you're doing extras, it'll be a rude awakening for you. You might get by in a heavy extras club, where it doesn't matter how smart or pretty you are, you'll be selling yourself cheap.
I've been in this business for a very long time, dealing with new girls like you who instead of learning the hustle just go for quick, easy money by offering too much. That leaves the rest of us with tons of guys that used to pay top dollar for "fantasies" now wanting the real deal, for a lot less. Escorts and girls looking for sugar daddies do not belong in stripclubs. If you don't have the patience to learn the skills of bringing in money without providing extras you're better off somewhere else. From your latest comment it looks like you finally got it though so good luck to you!
And no, I have nothing against escorts (they're bad ass, just like any other hardworking woman) as long as they don't interfere with my business.
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angely
I admit my comments were nasty. I could've taken the time and explained it all in a nicer way but honestly, your question was extremely stupid to me. You say you have thick skin but if you're offended by my comments that's nothing compared to what you'll get from the other girls in the DR when they realize you're doing extras, it'll be a rude awakening for you. You might get by in a heavy extras club, where it doesn't matter how smart or pretty you are, you'll be selling yourself cheap.
I've been in this business for a very long time, dealing with new girls like you who instead of learning the hustle just go for quick, easy money by offering too much. That leaves the rest of us with tons of guys that used to pay top dollar for "fantasies" now wanting the real deal, for a lot less. Escorts and girls looking for sugar daddies do not belong in stripclubs. If you don't have the patience to learn the skills of bringing in money without providing extras you're better off somewhere else. From your latest comment it looks like you finally got it though so good luck to you!
And no, I have nothing against escorts (they're bad ass, just like any other hardworking woman) as long as they don't interfere with my business.
Thank you for the clarification! I understood it like a page ago. It didn't take alot, honestly. And it's not that I was "offended" I just.. responded. I don't see how me responding = me being offended. Like, I don't care that much. I just felt it was very unnecessary. I'm not with a bunch of catty girls in the dressing room right now and I wasn't asking this q in prep to be treated like I am. I'm not here to troll or be a nuisance. I also think you misunderstood my original post to some extent (I'm not too lazy to figure out a hustle. I had a very specific situation in mind when considering extras would be a possibility for me. This is no longer relevant as I'm deciding against doing any extra services.) Sorry my question was dumb and possibly irritating. I understand you've been doing this for a long time and this profession means alot to you! I can get the same way when someone disparages something I'm passionate about and misunderstandings do happen. I 100% can say I didn't mean to sound that way and I can also 100% say I don't regret asking it as I learned a lot. Even more than I expected. As they say: There's no such thing as a stupid question.
I hope there's no hard feelings, thank you once again, and have a good night :)!
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"i'm not new to sexwork, having done escorting & sugaring since basically the day i turned 18 last year. " This statement contradicts this: "I think the best solution for me is to avoid a extras heavy club in the first place so I wouldn't even have to do anything like that, ever. That sounds like a literal nightmare yuuuuuck EW. " Hmmmm
how? i don't even really see the correlation. because i have done escorting and sugaring in the past that means i should be a-okay with giving head next to a dirty old curtain dripping with DNA on a poopy couch...? despite my bad experiences i wasn't dealing with low class nasty people in low class nasty settings like the ones NakedNicole described. i was acctually in lux hotels or nice apartments/houses.
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angely
how? i don't even really see the correlation. because i have done escorting and sugaring in the past that means i should be a-okay with giving head next to a dirty old curtain dripping with DNA on a poopy couch...? despite my bad experiences i wasn't dealing with low class nasty people in low class nasty settings like the ones NakedNicole described. i was acctually in lux hotels or nice apartments/houses.
That is how my friend does her escorting. She won't go to cheap no name hotels or bad areas. She only goes to nice hotels and decent areas for calls. I feel like that's the way to go as far as escorting is concerned. I don't do it but if I did I would go that route which is why I never understood extras in the club. I feel like a nice private intimate setting where it's between you and your client is so much better than a dirty club backroom where everyone knows what you're up to.
As far as this whole thread is concerned, I hope you were able to get the clarification you needed and were able to understand why so many of us are against the extras and irked by the extras girls and even the mention of it lol. Good luck in the industry.
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Girl, you need to start developing your hustle then. I mention those professions because of your original statements. All of sex work is hard and it sounds like in the past that you did not have any hustle when it came to sex work.Plus, fuckboys are rampant all over the sex industry. That is why you develop several different hustles in order to get that money. Good luck :)
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angely
sugaring *shudders* it was kind of my gateway into escorting honestly and it was kind of interchangeable as men (who were supposed to be "sugardaddies") would just offer me money for sex right off the bat without the "emotional" aspect to it. if no sex was involved, i'd get nothing. even if i like hadn't eaten anything and couldn't afford money to get to class.. trufax. i really didn't like dealing with sugar daddies and how emotionally abusive they all seem to get :( i won't lie when i first got to Miami i tried pushing my bad memories and abusive "relationships" to the back of my mind and just try to make some shmoney but meh. didn't really work out bc i realised how dumb i was being real quick. i partially blame the fact i was young, desperate, and just kind of lost so i didn't care how they acted but sugaring is definitely not my thing. at least for now. once again, this is the story with 0 detail and i'd prefer to not talk about it. i've done internet sex work (i sold content on manyvids) but i hated the belligerent cheap fuckboys begging for free stuff all the time. it's hard for me to be patient when it's over the internet. i think i'm better with more irl stuff? like i got good money but it got so tiring :/ i may start camming along side stripping but i imagine the online effboys to be rampant on camsites too.. possibly even worse. (i have many camgirl friends and they tell me alot) i had an ex-friend who did body rubs but she lived in NY and there were more opportunities for that and she makes pretty good money. sadly, in Miami it's just like chinese 30$ rubs and there's alot of connections to human traffickin...
i don't believe extras is the way to go. when i originally made this thread i didn't understand the hatred for extras girls & thought that if it was done very discreetly in a club that didn't care anyway than i was open to doing some things for $$$ and it should've been fine, right? i thought the hatred against extras was like some uppity slutshamey "i'm better than you because i don't fuck" type of thing. now i know it doesn't work that way and i misunderstood.
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I am certain that my reply is going to be met with anger but hopefully everyone will give serious thought to what I have to say prior to getting all steamed up. There will be disagreement and there are always exceptions to any generalization but here I go.
Everything that has been posted is pretty on the mark. When one or two girls get known for giving extras it brings the entire club down a notch and puts pressure on the other dancers to follow suit. But right now let me add that every guy who takes me to the VIP room expects extras. I have never ever had a guy not hint at what else I have to offer. Every one of them. And it is my decision how to handle it. Now the kicker – I believe every girl is different and every client is different. Some girls who are not as attractive as others feel they need to offer extras in order to compete. While I am certain that some dancers actually believe that, those girls start with insecurity. A 19-year-old girl with self-esteem problems should not be a dancer. But who am I to judge anyone or think I have enough knowledge to direct their life or chosen profession. I have often said that everyone has their price. All clean girls also have their price no matter what they say. Would I give a blow job to a random guy for $400? No way! What about a dropdead gorgeous guy for $500? – Maybe.
What about a horse for $1 million? I'm not going to answer that one because that might set off hate mail. (An ugly horse? lmao). I am certain you understand where I'm coming from. I am attractive enough to make decent money without providing all kinds of extras. On the other hand, I am not so attractive that I could work at a very high end club and compete with girls who are dropdead gorgeous. In big cities there are enough clubs around to make a decision where you want to work, can you fit in would you gain a reputation that brings the club down etc. and your fellow workers disliking you. The bottom line is you must find an environment that works for you. Not everyone hates girls who provide sexual favors. So you must decide your own limits and match them with your income needs, the specific reputation of a given club and the type of work environment you will feel most comfortable.
All of the above is very difficult to soak in as a newbie. Believe it or not there are places where girls are expected to give a blow job to a guy for $20. As I said and I repeat everybody has their price. You don't have to give extras no matter where you work. So you cannot say that girls who give extras are hated everywhere. Girls who give blow jobs for $20 are hated everywhere except at those clubs where that's the going rate. You must learn to "fit in," how to fit in, what are your limits, what is your price and what you are willing to do in order to fit in. I will not accept anyone saying that there are clubs where absolutely no sexual favors are given. The only time a girl is aided is when she provides those favors at a price that is not accepted at that particular club. You don't have to give sexual favors at all if you don't want to but don't believe that indeed nothing occurs in their VIP room.
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My addition to this thread is in regard to location. Of all the cities where I have worked, Miami is close to the bottom of desirability. I do not know how it was before Jimmy Carter invited all the criminals to come in but I know now that the present situation in Miami is horrible. I think that is about 1980 way before I was born. Miami is a disgusting macho Hispanic attitude environment that is horrible it is just so low class that I believe it to be a breeding ground for disgusting socioeconomic misogyny. It exists in the husband and wife environment so certainly it exists at the adult entertainment world. The only place worse is Tampa Florida which is so low class that is just accepted as real, reality.
South Florida in general is not a nice place and I urge you to consider moving if you choose to be in the adult entertainment industry. It may influence your entire attitude about living. Life is great, wonderful and full of excitement. Do not let your location drag you down
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Got friends who are prostitutes, no problem with that. Strippers who do extras are competing on an unfair playing ground. It makes it hard for girls who only want to strip to make a living. It would be like a normal waitress getting extra money by giving lap dances. It's not fair
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Originally Posted by
angely
i'm really curious why there's so much disdain for the girls who DO do sexual favors for customers? isn't it just thier hustle? i'm like... not even a newbie im a newbie-to-be so i don't want to sound insensitive or clueless in anyway. i'm not new to sexwork, having done escorting & sugaring since basically the day i turned 18 last year. i honestly can see myself providing extra services to customers for the right (and i mean RIGHT) price bc it's just something i'm kind of used too just of course not in a strip club setting. aaaaand the clubs i'm looking at down here in Miami are rumored to be "extras heavy"
i hope this q makes sense and im not stepping on any toes.
Simply because customers expect all girls to do extras because they're so used to it and it Erwin's the hustles for non extra girls. I don't hate them though. Lol