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Man I love this section :rotfl:
TL ; DR: After being taught his whole life that money and 'prestige' can buy women, young dude is pissed off that this is not the case. Does not like that he still has to make said women comfortable & convince them to go home with him rather than ordering them like its Burger King, and gets butthurt when the women and more seasoned club patrons explain why.
What a pathetic twat.
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Any idea about what the purpose of the original post was?
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^^^He wanted everyone to hold his hand and rub his balls and tell him what he wanted to hear.
Sorry dude. Not happening.
I actually thought that rick dugans response was tame compared to what could have been said so to my surprise when I see you go ham on your fellow blue member. And your rant in post #19 of this thread is just proving the point their assessment of you as a douchebag is accurate.
If how you talk here on this thread is indicative of how you act at the club, I see why the dancers are running from you like santa aint real. You are acting like a pompous jerk. Don't you get that money isn't everything?? You may have money but you are now acting like a caveman with money. Why would any woman go home with a caveman with money when they can go with a normal dude with money?
So stripping is a predatory environment when it comes to male sexual gratification???? Are you serious right now? You sound like the predator to me. You try to waltz into an exotic dance club looking to convert dancers into your personal blow up dolls. Then you have the audacity to come on to exotic dancer website to spew your ageist & sexist (you called women bitches and cunts) comments. You objectify women. You brag about money. You are condescending. You sound like the douchebag they painted you to be. And you wonder why women won't sleep with you --- not even for money.
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slowpoke
Any idea about what the purpose of the original post was?
Go bk & read it Pokey..actually the title of the post sums it up. :)
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miss.a.p1600
I actually thought that rick dugans response was tame compared to what could have been said so to my surprise when I see you go ham on your fellow blue member. And your rant in post #19 of this thread is just proving the point their assessment of you as a douchebag is accurate.
I guess it was hard for me to get angry at an emotionally messed up and unattractive 29 year old guy who already needs to pay to land an attractive girl. A little pity crept in when I thought about the life this guy has ahead of him. :shrug:
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My first post in a while.
You sound like an unbearable entitled douche.
That is all.
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LegoMoney
1) Not to offend, but you kind of sound like a douche bag. The water bottle comparison plus all the details about your penthouse just rub me the wrong way. First, I guarantee you, the type of dancer you are trying to attract won't really care about your penthouse. She has likely seen, rented, or been fucked in better places. She has also encountered a lot of high-level men like the neighbors you describe. You aren't going to get her with this attitude. There is nothing worse than a wealthy guy who is also an entitled asshole.
2) I second almost everything said above by the the poster. For the best women, OTC is very rare, but it's usually a combination of a very nice guy who spends very generously up front with very little work having to be done on her part in the club.
So.. cliff notes: "Don't be offended, but you're a self-entitled asshole."
Lol. This post made me spit my drink out!
I agree with Legomoney. I am not sure why you felt the need to brag about the pent house. It does sound like a nice place but not sure what that has to do with anything. I know a 29 year old girl that owns one of the nicest condos I have ever seen in Miami, which is probably 10X the price of a place in Pittsburg.. so... not impressed.
Also, I really do not mean to put anyone down here- but Pittsburg is one of those cities like Boston, that is not really known for having women that are in the super-beautiful category (like Miami or LA or Bogota). So I disagree that it does not matter where you are.
Oh, wait- he's banned already?
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^ LMFAO. Overall, the poor guy just doesn't understand. For the finest-of-the-fine type strippers, money plus an asshole does not equal OTC time. And as comfortable as he appears to be paying for sex, you can tell that he's not and that he's ashamed about it when really there is nothing to be ashamed of. That's why, when rejected, he defaults to putting us down for being strippers. Rich, famous, good-looking dudes pay for ass all the time... Why?? Because it is single-handedly the easiest way to get a gorgeous woman of your choice in your bed. It's a matter of convenience, and has nothing to do with being lame. I notice that younger guys don't get this tho, and feel "too cool" for it.
If you're still lurking OP, seriously, try your tactics with regular women. She'll be excited about your apartment and that $350 you're gonna give her. Us top-notch strippers have seen TOO much money, met too many people with a higher net-worth who (GASP!) are actually nice to us and treat us like human beings.
I feel like this should be a stickie on the Blue side for customers for what NOT to do. ;D
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Kudos to Rick D for telling this dude to hit the gym long before he divulged his weight!
So sad OP was banned, this was good reading! ;-)
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Papa Dandy
How about you fuck off.. .<Snip>
Get what Im saying asshole? I weight 275 and I am totally comfortable and satisfied with myself as a man and the aspects of my life I want to work on certainly wont benefit from the advice of the demographic and quality of human being that comes to this site... <Snip>
Good luck with your "careers" "ladies"
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Not really, he was an asshole, saying GFY to members cause he didn't get answers he wanted.
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I love it when the mods ban them but keep the thread open....some of best entertainment I've had all month!
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OP is lucky he got banned before I found this thread.
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I know this thread is a little bit old, I just saw it...I just wanted to mention, since no one else did...
My reactions to a customer like this, would be, in order:
1. No, I'm in a relationship
2. No, that's not safe for me
3. No, I'm going to make more money staying here
4. NO, THIS BEHAVIOR SEEMS LIKE THAT OF AN UNDERCOVER COP
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The CC section is comedy gold. The top dancers that this guy wants are probably making enough money to not need OTC. This guy just came off as a douche nozzle.
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Originally Posted by
NakedNicole
You won't get any attractive dancer who knows her worth to escort for the going rate of legitimate escorts, let's get that straight.
When guys offer me $500 for extras I literally bust out laughing in their face. When guys don't spend an impressive amount on me first in the club to show they are serious and respect my time at the club, why would I see them after? If you hand me your business card it better be wrapped in a $100 bill or else im throwing it in the trash with the 20 other un memorable business cards guys have given me that night.
Here's my advice to successfully get a top of the line dancer outside the club. Anything less than this likely won't work for the type of female you want.
1.pick your girl and approach or walk up on stage and tip her $100 bill. Do not make it rain. Do not tip 5 $20s. Do not flex that it's a $100. She can see from a mile away that it's a $100 bill. Low key give her the $100 bill and tell her to see you when she can, that you know you want her to do a champagne room with her.
2. Do not ask for dances or any entry level shit when she comes over. Tell her you want her to take you to the best champagne room available.
3. We notice how you treat everyone. Us, the other girls, the bouncers, the room host etc. These people are our friends so be nice to them and tip them generously aswell. This will show us that you are genuinely a nice person and we will like you more.
4. Go to the room, she may start dancing for you right away. Let her dance for maybe 5 minutes. Touch her how the clubs rules allow. Don't grope, slap ass, lick, kiss, etc.
5. After a few minutes of dancing tell her to take a seat have a drink and just relax. She will love you for making this gesture. Joke around, have a fun conversation, ask her non personal questions, favorite movie, favorite restraunt in the area, best vacation she's been on etc. Exchange back massages. This time isn't about getting your needs met, this is about making a good impression and showing that you are worthy of her time. There are lots of guys willing to pay for her otc. If she wanted to be a basic escort she would be. But she isn't so to convert a top notch dancer you basically have to try way more hard in general.
6. After your room time is up, without missing a beat tell the host that you absolutely must buy an additional hour with this amazing person. Jokingly announce that you haven't yet gotten to finalize you and your future wife's plan to run away together.
7. Don't complement her much on her looks or body. She's tired of hearing how hot she is and how bad you want to bang her. Tell her how funny, sophisticated, smart she is etc.
8. Towards the end of your second room, act as if you wish you could stay longer but " you have a huge contract to close in the morning" "have to finalize paperwork on your new vacation home you just bought first thing in the morning." Etc. Women are attracted to men who seem like they have important and prestigious things going on in their lives. Don't act too available. Act as if you have a very tight schedule but you HAD to take some time for her tonight because she is so awesome.
9. As you are on your way out of the room, give her your card with atleast $100 along with it. Simply say "I'm in town til (whatever date,) call me and I'll send a driver to pick you up. We will go shopping, dinner, you spend the night then we go to the spa in the morning and since I appreciate your time, I want to cover your monthly expenses. If it turns out to be something we both mutually enjoy, this will be an ongoing thing." Make her think it's not a "one and done" type thing. After you say this, hand the card with the cash to her, hug and leave the club immediately. Do not talk to other dancers, do not drink at the bar. Have somewhere else to be and go!
I never said it would be easy. Contrary to popular belief, many strippers are NOT easy. Actually quite the contrary, especially the good ones. To land a girl who is attractive, classy, clean, not a drug addict or alcoholic etc, you really are going to have to pull out all the stops.
If you're simply trying to pay for sex I don't recommend strippers. To make strippers come out of their comfort zone you have to invest alot of time and money. At least a couple hours and $1,000 + at the club to even begin to make a lasting impression. I would increase your escort budget and fly in an escort who meets your standards for a weekend or something.
Ok, I just saw this and I'm simply reporting because I think info on the net ought to run free and be accurate.
That said, you do know that just about every strip-club on the A1A from Boca to Del Rey are flat out brothels? OTC is so easy to find in these clubs that in some of them you won't have to even ask, you'll be propositioned. This is true even in the higher end "gentleman's clubs". It's as bad as NJ, where the same can be said for about 40% of the strip-clubs which have ITC extras and OTC readily available.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating it. I'm reporting what is factual. Candidly I like my strip-clubs to be strip-clubs and my cat houses to be cat houses, but that's just not the way it is in some places and parts of Florida are some of those places.
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Idk know what this thread's about as I haven't read it, but HI to GR! How are you?^
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whirlerz
Idk know what this thread's about as I haven't read it, but HI to GR! How are you?^
HELLO! Truly glad to see you about. Hope everything goes fabulously with you?
I'm good. Still doing the occasional party when the spirit moves... still doing the poker thing (going quite well). Still the private investigation thing as the 9-5.
How about you?
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It has happened but thankfully a mutually beneficial decision. Any customer knows that those situations are rare and should be treasured.
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FBR
It has happened but thankfully a mutually beneficial decision. Any customer knows that those situations are rare and should be treasured.
Holy shit where have you been? Not my business, rhetorical question ha ha! Anyway good to see you.
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FBR
It has happened but thankfully a mutually beneficial decision. Any customer knows that those situations are rare and should be treasured.
Looks like I'm not the only one back after a long hiatus. Good to see you, FBR. Hope all goes well.
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which state are you in? that seems like very expensive prices, how much time does $500 get you?
that seems like a lot of free things to give. $100 to get a business card, thousands in the club... that doesn't make sense.
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miss.a.p1600
Depending on what size your penis is you could get part time stint in adult films. This way your agent, not you, handle negotiations, and you'll have access to young college aged women and can bang them at your hearts desire. Don't worry about your loved ones finding out, you don't have to show your face cause the audience is only interested in the money shot. How many inches do you have?
Ms P:
Between you & Marina, I damn near choked laughing!