This depends on the city. Many women, myself included, advertise on backpage and do well. Also, some women want to avoid hobbyists, and avoid red for that reason.
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So many cities and towns where BP is kinda essential - many advertising boards only cover major cities and you can get lost in the sauce advertising there for another area that people aren't essentially looking for ... so I think for pointed traffic/clients back page can work nicely, a ton of new clients also go there not knowing much about the "hobbyist" boards.
Like anything it has it's pros and cons ... it's already great because it's not blocked by most peoples office "firewalls" "blocked sites" etc unlike eros etc and strictly adult related sites so for a guy looking for someone for a quick lunch time appointment it can work nicely.
But everyone has their preferences.
Ok. Tried it..
Hated it.
I'm done.
Thank you.
A friend of mine suggested that too. She used to do them, and got $200.
I got hit on by an old guy at church last Sunday, even though his wife was a few yards away.
I told him I do massage, quoted a price. He called me 2 days later. Lol!
Going to get cards made up, because very wealthy guys hit on me everytime I'm out.
I just threw up an ad to test (haven't since college) at $200 but met up with a lady beforehand who told me I wouldn't get that in the area I work in, but I proved her wrong and have been turning away guys, lol.
I screened the hell out of them and have a few upscale clients already. I suggest getting a table (I got mine locally for $75 and they have a 2nd they wanna sell me) and some biotene oil. I put a lot into starting up but it was quick and painless outside of the startup cash. You can do it!
200 def seems possible - thats sort of going rate for most cities, even though so many ppl lowball and charge less. I hate when ppl are like "you'll never get that" lol
Tell me about it! After getting some awesome help from SW BR ladies, I decided to PAY to meet up with a local provider(she was in her 60s looked nothing like a photos) to see what the play was for my area. No offense but I wouldn't have paid her $5 to touch me. She was disgusting and I felt bad because she said that my money was all she made that week. She talked about herself the whole time, ate, and then had to go, lol. She offered some advice, and to text her more, lol. Said I wasn't a BBW, that I looked young, but then was like "$200? You won't get that here. I only charge $100 for UP TO an hour." She also encouraged me to use fake photos of girls who looked like me, lol. I told her I believe in total honesty when it comes to things like that. Reputation is everything.
Either way, there was an obvious difference in both age and appearance which is most likely why I can get away with $200 and she couldn't. She also wanted me to run some numbers/clients by her to see if she's had them before. She showed me like 1,000 guys in her phone, most NCNS or she wouldn't see them- but she doesn't screen when she told me she did before, lol. Sorry but if you're going to charge them $100 or less and you're not physically appealing, they're going to treat you like crap. She even had the nerve to scroll in her phone and dubbed a client "NO NIGGS!" as in N*ggers and grappled trying to explain that she doesn't see "ghetto Black guys" (but she was the most vile) I couldn't get out of that restaurant fast enough, lol.
She said to call her if I needed anything, that some chick charged $200 for BR but in a bikini and did a VIP BR for like $300 and said I wouldn't get it and I said "WATCH ME, Love!" if it's anything I know is to market myself and get money out of a man. Like you're telling me this face, these tits, this ass, and this personality can't get $200 OFFLINE when I've gotten $200 online a billion x over? HA! So far I've had nothing but great clients who didn't even bulk at $200 for a BR.
Pro-Tip...
If you are doing body rubs-- its better to invest in the Biotone lotion than the oil. Glides just as well and will not stain your sheets nor clothes.
Seconding Biotone
Thanks for the tip, I almost grabbed it but figured the oil would be better. It's super messy and though it doesn't smell too strong, I'd argue about it not 'staining'. Oh it stains, it's just light in weight and color but if def stains, ugh.
I'll look into getting the lotion, next I hate mess. There's a massage school locally that charges the same as anazon.
Yep.. the lotion will save your ass compared to the oil. I went through SO many sheets with the oil until I switched over to the lotion.
You can use Mr Number.com for light screening.
Vaseline Intensive Care is good massage lotion too. Non greasy .
I HATE oil. Especially coconut. Blech.
I'd also recommend giving body rubs a try. Everyone has different menus and boundaries. I've had good luck in a few cities with it plus even other cities when I've traveled and needed cash fast.
Search this site because there's tons of info here!
Quick newbie question about body rubs.
Do I need to massage the guy's entire body for an hour?
I just see how hard my massage therapist work, and if I have to do that,....hum, ..not sure I would want to. I have a really bad back, riddled with arthritis, as well as arthritis in my feet and hands.So standing for any length of time is difficult and painful for me.
I honestly sometimes had guys who actually wanted the massage but a lot just kinda like sensual touching etc - maybe read some of the review boards that focus on body rubs so you can get a better idea of whats going on in sessions and what most guys are leaning towards? Idk kinda works for market research too lol
It depends . I actually do massage because my boundary is currently more on the therapeutic side ( in the past I had bikini / topless / nude / light fetish was offered depending on tips). You can offer special sessions to the best tippers ( I personally also have a soft spot for the guys who make booking REALLY easy and favor them / offer more for them). Everyone is is little different in what they offer. I usually cut the session to 50-55 minutes.
I think a really SMOOTH booking ( without tons of questions ) is the best way to introduce yourself as a customer so these people are the ones I want to meet.
^ You can also look up therapeutic massage videos . I often am with the customer on the table ( I'll use my knees kneeling to press the legs / butt without bending my back and sit on my butt while doing their hands / arms ect. )
You can learn most of these energy saving techniques by online videos OR taking a small weekend workshop OR by getting a Thai massage or two ( you'll see how the workers do more " pressing " with their weight which isn't using as much energy ) .
Ok. I wasn't clear on why I am done escorting.
I posted why in CC, but now I just realized lots of you never go over there.
The reason I hate escorting is because of the way guys smell.
Ass smells from a mile away. Breath is very bad. Some had smokers breath. :yuck:
Dick smells yucky.
Even though I asked them to shower, AND I hand washed them myself.
Luckily the sessions only lasted 20 or so minutes.
The thought of some dirty, smelly guy laying ass up, and then dick up breathing in his bad breath for an hour on a table in MY new, clean apt skeeves me to no end.
I choose a Playlist and do drink/meet when they arive, head up to the loft for the br, my music is set for an hour but I flip them over on a specific song so about 40 min of br then they go down to shower and get gone within 15 min. I don't rush them but I do rub every inch, head to toe.
It's tough and I'm still a thickum so I take an extra towel to blot the sweat from my brow haha it's hard work I try and give them the full hour but the br is about 40 min for me, total. You will be exhausted but that cash will make you smile when they're gone, lol.
You can then take a bubble bath and sip some wine and rest your muscles.
I've been outed as well it sucks but you live and you learn,now I'm extra tough on these clients
My first agency boss made her fortune in 1980s Las Vegas- she took NO shit from clients & customers.
I'm retiring partially because I want the rest of my sexual years to be used selfishly. & It looks like some opportunities are coming my way to where I won't have a need to be escorting. I miss parts of it but yeah the downsides can really creep on a psyche.
Ew...Id be done too...
Okay, agree on needing to find better clientele. Brief rundown..it took me about a month before I got my first client...I dont actually remember him, only that I did not like him at all. And from there on, the majority of the guys I saw either had hygiene problems or attitude problems. Thankfully, I happened to talk to one lady who was like...wtf are your rates so low? I kinda of assumed since I was new, I needed to start off low to get some interest and reviews (and honestly, I kept dropping them as that first month went by and I wasnt getting any takers) She suggested I double my rates for a coupel weeks, then double them again. Yes, they were THAT low LOL
Two things happened...I got even less inquires, which wasnt a bad thing since my inbox was jam packed full of creeps and jerks, instead now the few emails I got were 90% legit guys who turned into dates. Second thing..the guys were COMPLETELY different. Clean cut, perfect gentlemen, professionals...downright awesome guys that had me saying omg I love my job LOL
i noticed you said that the dates didnt last more than 20m...are you booking 30m dates? If so..thats a problem right there too. I suggest nothing less than an hour date..though now I can say, if a guy only books an hour Im already like ehhhh uggh...the best dates book 2-3 hours as an introductory date, and many go on to booking overnights or even travel dates..which is what I prefer. One guy even told me, he would never book a date if a lady charges less than $x amount per hour...I was (and still am) right at the brink of his cut off amount. Many guys of quality, who want a woman of quality, feel the same way. You want the guy who wants what he wants and has the means to get it..not the guy who takes what he can get cause it fits his budget...those are the ones who feel its not worth their time to shower or be a decent human being.
Okay..hope that helps lol
ETA: About my first client...I DO remember him lol I just wrote about him today and wondering who I was possibly thinking of when I wrote this. My first client was actually awesome and gave me hope when I did get bad clients, because I knew good ones were def out there. Seriously..who was I thinking of?! lol