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I dont mean to be any kind of way... but I genuinely am not sure if you are for real, or if this is some kind of a fantasy post...
If you are real...if your town is as rural as you say, then its imperative you take a lot more regard for your safety and actually start screening. Small town cops have a lot more time on their hands, and have a lot less patience for this sort of thing than bigger cities do. On top of that, your picture will end up in the paper.
Theres no such thing as "in person screening" Once you are in the presence of a cop, you're screwed. And nowadays, a cop can get naked and perform some sexual acts...so none of that will help you.
Throughout the post, you say things like "too much effort", "not too smart" ..which tells me that you already know you are taking a big risk by working the way you are.
Key takeaways I get from your post in offering advice though is...you need to be willing to put in the effort and have some sort of self preservation to not end up in jail or with some phycho out to harm you. Do some searching on screening, lots of info on here.
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I am real and I have been doing all the reading I can here and elsewhere and no Im not real comfortable with the way I've been operating but like I said this is all new to me, and yes I've made mistakes... This is not something I have to do to survive either but I can see the potential to do things safer and a lot less stressfully... A google search for "escorts" here brings up CL pretty much and from what I've seen on BP there only a few ads that Im not sure aren't scams or LE... I am so new in fact I have no idea what BP was like before they made the recent changes... I can say since I put a very discrete and carefully worded ad there that I've had some texts and calls that really spooked me and I hate trying to deal with the whole unknown... Ive heard from local clients that "some girls give you their rates right over the phone", Umm NOT me... So the only thing I've been comfortable doing is keeping talk to a minimum, nothing explicit and trying to do business in person...
Im open to trying the whole website deal and real screening and traveling to bigger cities but I obviously have no reviews and from what Ive read Im not sure Id even want them anyway...
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I should ad that I have ZERO debts, and a decent work history and investment income,... No kids, don't want any, no family nearby and any BF can either deal with it or move on LOL I recently quit a job I hated and I decided to try something new... I like the work and the $$$ but I know this cant last the way Im doing things... I can afford a good lawyer and Im very street smart and I know how to defend myself, not many men really scare me much... I moved here by choice a few years ago to get away from a very large city I hated...
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My thoughts on this...
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So Ive been doing nearly all of my "screening" in person, Im not sure how else to do it around here... I like the idea of doing a website and real screening/escorting but I think the local market is too small to go through all that effort... Ive also had some success working the local bars and the only "titty bar" in the area freestyle...
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The way I've gone about it is to put up non explicit not too trashy ads on CL/BP and even OK cupid... Im using a burner phone and I operate text only... I wont do explicit talk/texts of any kind over the phone but sadly a lot of guys that aren't LE are dumb enough to ask "how much", "whats the donation", "what are your rates" and even ask about specific acts ... I'll just say "you know talking like that can get you in a lot of trouble" and Im just going on gut feels before meeting them...
I'll start with vanilla pics and try to get as much info as I can out of them before meeting even going as far as swapping sexy pics (I know not smart) but I've thankfully been lucky so far... I'll say something like "I don't like to talk much over text with a guy I dont know but we can meet for a drink or lunch/dinner, or maybe go for a ride and talk and get to know each other in person"... I dont have much free time, my time is valuable, but I might be able to make some available for you, ect, but Im very careful to not link sex and compensation... Then if they agree to meet I pick a spot and tell them where Im parked ask what their driving and tell them to park next to me and get in and we can talk... By then I at least have a pic of them and usually the general area of town they live in and I can see their vehicle and their appearance in person...
Then slut that I am I'll usually just grope the guy and give him a hot kiss while feeling him up all over looking for a wire or a gun or whatever, this usually gets a very surprised reaction and it also gets the little head doing the thinking LOL At that point if Im feeling OK about him I'll crack open a beer and offer him one and point out that if I was a cop I sure as hell wouldn't be drinking a beer in the car with you and I ask for an ID and check his address... Then I'll give him the menu and yes I'll do a get to know you car BJ and then point out we could always go by his place before I finish... Either way has lead to repeat customers but I wont do an incall at home with a local unless he's very old, I have one very nice old gent who's 68 and my best customer... For confirmed by ID/plates out of town/state clients I'll try to set up an in call... I try to avoid hotels and Im actually considering getting a van or a small RV, using it for an in call locally and going on extended tours with it and avoiding hotels all together... RV's and in and out of state tourists are very common sight around here so Im not seeing much trouble there....
So no it's not "Escorting", not glamorous and Im old LOL but its been rewarding... Im considering doing a website and Im definitely gonna work on better pics and better screening... Any advice on how to operate in a very rural area would be appreciated...
Hopefully thats not too explicit to post here, please don't quote it because I might want to delete it...
A lady I know was arrested doing this in NJ. Her rates were similar to yours ($200 an hour). She had a popular blog and was EXTREMELY busy. She thought she was Sherlock holmes too - you couldn't tell her a damn thing then one day she was busted.
I've never had an issue with men filling out my screening form while visiting smaller towns. Everyone appreciates a professional presentation - it says this girl is smart and she means business. You don't have to look like Tyra Banks to get them to fill out your screening form and do as you ask. I don't know where that post is but there was a lady that was busted out in Ohio after having sex with the cop! It doesn't matter if you grab them by the crotch. They can still bust you and they will. One of my friends was arrested right as she was about to give the undercover a BJ. It happens all the time.
There was a high end escort in DC that charged guys $600 for in person screening but they paid her deposit before they ever laid eyes on her. I still don't think it's a good idea.
There's nothing more powerful than getting paid for sex. It makes you feel invincible when in reality, you're not. You still have to make good decisions to you stay out of trouble.
Public screening eh? It's not a matter of IF you'll be arrested but when. Time to go back to the drawing board. Like your whole setup sounds....dangerous.
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Public screening? What do you think that's really going to do ... the minute a cop has your location and shows up, your public screening is a pointless endeavor and it can go massively south from there.
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Id be charging more in NJ where incomes and cost of living are MUCH higher than here, I have been very busy here but it's been slowing down... Im taking a break, pulled my ads and considering making changes, Im NOT comfortable as I said... I guess Id just feel like a sitting duck running the ONLY actual escort ad with the website and all that here where I live.... It does make a lot of sense when traveling though to disappear from the local market for a while and just keep moving around never advertising in one place for long... What Im thinking is make a website but not even link it to the ad or use it to advertise directly... Id do what Im doing now at least here and then instead of meeting them give them the link with everything explained and tell them they can either fill out the screening form and and give me time to check it all or stop bothering me... Of course while trying that I could also still use the approach I have been using as well but much more carefully...
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@PP Right but the only busts Ive ever been able to find anything on around here were all done at hotels and even if I was gonna work a hotel, in or out I cant see doing that without meeting somewhere else first and then going there together... That just seems safer and gives you a chance to bail if the guy seems weird at all without even disclosing where the incall is or walking into a trap at an outcall... So that would be an additional form of screening that sounds pretty easy to me...
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I think you should invest in a website that has a screening form and have people either fill out the form or send you the same info via email if that's their preference. I can tell you 1000000 stories where cops had an entire story that sounded great on the phone, to the point where you'd be like wow they sound really polite and like a potentially really nice client - then when you started running info NOTHING added up.
I would ditch your current approach ASAP ... even if you have to sort of filter it out over time while you build a more willing to screen clientele. Most decent clients have zero issue giving enough info to verify their identity.
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Okay, I feel where you're coming from... Yes, you are totally right that its time to make some changes. My suggestion would be not to keep taking risks...just full stop, do your research, set your goals, get prepared, then come back once you are ready. Personally..I put in about 4 months of research, reading not only everything I could find online, but also got the Escort Handbook line of books, poured through forums...literally probably spent at least 2+ hours a day reading and taking a ton of notes along the way. Btw, the books were great and helpful, but honestly, especially now, everything in them can be found online. Point is...I poured myself into learning about this biz before getting involved. And even then I screwed up some stuff that seems so basic to me now.
By set your goals..I mean you really need to decide what it is you want to do. For some people, its stay busy, make money. For me its travel and touring. For another it may be part time and high end. We all have our *thing* and thats pretty important to figure out, because your rates, your image, your ads, your website and how you conduct your dates all rely on your goal and what you want to get out of this.
You are kind of all over the place in describing your market and where you want to work...honestly, if I lived in such a small town that I was one of very few providers posting and ad there, Id probably just make that my home base and work strictly as a touring escort. Cause I dont think I would ever be able to feel safe! But on the other hand, you pretty much have the market cornered. So theres that. And in that actually....you have total power to set the tone for how your dates go. Do you really want to do car dates? Not passing judgement...just...get to thinking how you want to be treated by these guys.
As for screening...yeah dont do a search for escrot, do a search for screening. Thats how you'll find the resources. Put up your site with a screening form, but if a guy contacts you, tell him you need his information to screen him. I never talk to a guy on the phone until he has been screened, the date is set, and I am just doing a quick confirmation call before our date. But thats just me...other ladies prefer to get screening info over the phone.
Anyway...hope that helps. For real, part of me is like WT actual F?! LOL but Ive got to remember, I knew as much as I did before I started because I put a shit ton of effort into research. Heck, I had a binder with a business and financial plan. Im nuts like that. But everyone is new at some point, just that in his business...a newbie mistake can land you in jail or dead so its important to learn as much as you can before you get involved. So from this point really...its up to you to educate yourself and get on track. Best of luck to you!
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Dear Penthouse, I was bored one night & put on my human skin suit made of women's flesh. Then I did my lotion-hose chores. Just dancing around tonight by my lonesome & decided to sit down to write something funny....
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Ive given it a lot of thought for a long time now and I have been I hate to say completely obsessed with it to the point of information overload... It's one thing to read about it and another altogether to get out there and actually do it even if it might be a crazy way to start, it has been empowering... I do really enjoy doing research but for me anyway I have to learn things through actual experience and Ive definitely got some now!!!
So I guess the plan is to build a website, get some kind of plan in place for real some real screening and work on getting some better pics and trying that while hopefully keeping the regulars Ive met and planning a trip out of town...
When Im in the mood I have no problem at all with seeing 3-5 a day but not for more than a few days and then take a day or two off but there's always "dating" in the meantime which BTW seems ridiculously easy after the last month working LOL
I have considered moving to a bigger town too so I can definitely see doing some traveling.... I do like hitting the road and I used to go all over and "camp" in a nice van I had and I was quite comfortable... I can see some possibilities there knowing what I know now LOL but I would like to try going with a classier approach...
And BTW my skin is pretty thick so go right ahead and have a nice laugh and Im glad you found it entertaining but it's all true...
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Okay...so you dont feel like doing any research or taking advice, just wanna learn through experience and the goal is to do van dates. Got it.
Sounds like you're not interested in nor need any advice cause you've got a solid plan.
Best of luck to you!
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Dear Penthouse, I was bored one night & put on my human skin suit made of women's flesh. Then I did my lotion-hose chores. Just dancing around tonight by my lonesome & decided to sit down to write something funny....
Thanks for the comic relief...your assessment is legit LOL
Gave benefit of a doubt and tried, but I'm over it. :D
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Thanks for the comic relief...your assessment is legit LOL
Gave benefit of a doubt and tried, but I'm over it. :D
I suspect it's my favorite skin-walker stalker of the pink site. I recognize the stalkerish obsession with the biz & the obsession about sex.
edit to add- this post reminded me to listen to the "Goodbye Horses" song from "Silence of the Lambs" so reading it was not a total waste.
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Whatever.... Im looking for a good screening app???
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Ive set up a website and I've already got a few prospects that seem legit though I haven't gone online with it yet or placed any ads... Im getting their full name, email address, phone number, a pic, and asking for references.... Im email only until they pass screening then Im giving a number and Im text only... Im also requiring them to meet at a spot nearby the in or outcall and present ID before we go with the understanding that any explicit talk at any time is grounds for me to end all interaction...
Any advice on how to screen with this info would be greatly appreciated
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Also Im not on facebook at all and I never have been... Ive considered it but my mom is a facebook stalker... SO I should be able to open an account with my work name and email and no pics or even bogus pics just to use for screening Id think??? Anyone familiar with facebook see a flaw here???
Im just doing some screening school/practice before going back to work...
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Creat a fake Facebook photo with the name Claire Jones or something and throw up some fake photos - that way you can use Facebook, don't use your work name as sometimes they shut down the account if it doesn't look "real" and random ppl add you.
Join Verify Him
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Thank you, that makes sense, any problem with using my work email???
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SWEET!!! =) I am liking Facebook for stalking =) Thanks!!!
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Bumping this for the shits and giggles...plus the insight.
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Wow.....this was a wild ride.
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On a serious note screening in public isn't that hot of an idea. In high crime areas any given cop can detain you/ question you/ order you to move on. For most people this is a huge party pooper. & Unfortunately most cops have long memories. There are several segments of the reality TV show "Cops" where undercover cops resort to some incredibly stupid/weird set ups to arrest women working the track.
In the age of free Internet in most areas, any potential customer not understanding the basic etiquette of dealing with a companion should not be dealt with.....if he didn't care enough to get an idea of what is supposed to be going on you don't want to deal with him.