To kiss or not to kiss a client? What do you do?
Hi ladies.
questio,
do you kiss you clients and allow them to do oral on you (on the pussy)?
I know that you can get some nasty VD and STDs from oral sex and I want to avoid that. I don't want to do mouth kissing or let a client do oral on me. I will do a bj with a condom and of course sex with a condom. Most guys want a bj without a condom and I tell them to go fuck themselves...lol..no pun intended.
I know I could label it GFE if I included kissing and oral on the pussy.
Any thoughts??? I'm just looking to protect myself and my health at all costs. Yes...kissing on other body parts is fine with me, just no mouth or pussy.
thanks.
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I actually posed a simIlar question a while back. And there are similar posts already which may also be helpful.
You are wise to consider protecting your health against contagious diseases from kissing such as herpes (herpes simplex type 1 & 2 , herpes type 4 Epstein Barr virus aka Mono aka the kissing disease), cold/flu, etc.
For me. There are a couple ways.
1. Not fool proof due to asymptotic shedding but so far has worked for me is analyzing for lesions around lips nose and mouth. If you see ANY abnormalities, like bumps, open sores, etc then do not kiss and do not allow for receiving oral sex.
2. The most safe way for receiving oral sex is using a dental dam. The downside is not a lot of people use them because they don't sell them like condoms so you probably have to order online - I know Amazon carries them. But if you are adamant about your sexual health it's worth a try
3. Definitely not foolproof but you can simply ask like hey tell me about your sexual health have you ever gotten cold sores? Some people will be forthcoming but Not everyone will be honest for fear of stigma so don't rely on a persons self-report of their sexual health.
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I too wondered this, my sugar daddy gave me a hard time about not using a condom during a bj I reluctantlreluctantly did it. Then he gave me a hard time about a condom during sex! I'm like fuck you, put a condom on asshole. I cant believe how many escorts do bareback bjs, I knew my sd for years I wouldn't do that on a perfect stranger. You can get hpv in your throat which can turn into throat cancer. Among all the other nasty things. Stay safe ladies.
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Don't kiss these guys. I'm fairly sure I got bacterial pneumonia this way. (If not, then one of the last guys I saw probably had pneumonia from his self-reported issues & the way he smelled.)
Easy out- once you collect your fee, if he tries to kiss & is violating an agreed-upon boundary, get big eyed and say, "OH!!! I accidentally hit my lip in the shower & it bled. I'd prefer you didn't kiss on me. It might start bleeding again." Most sane males will forget about getting all kissyfaced.
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I could sheepishly bow out of this convo and not say anything but.. whatever :D Everyone's different.
I'm a GFE provider. So yes I do kiss and also allow and do oral sans cover. Things I do, which anyone should anyway, is I'm diligent about looking a guy over face, hands, happy places. I offer a shower, or if they already did so, I ask them to wash their hands.
Personally, before a date I brush my teeth at least half an hour before the soonest before a date. Afterwards, I swish with hydrogen peroxide, and I keep hydrogen peroxide wipes in my purse to freshen up with if I don't shower before I leave. Even if there's no oral action...I'm super sensitive to...everything. so I do my routine no matter what.
I'm not at all shy about letting a guy know no kisses if anything is suspect. If his breath is off, no oral because thats a sign of bacterial issue or inbalance. I've also told a guy flat out he needed to get his happy place checked out and there was zero action. He said the bump was from an ingrown hair but totally understood my apprehension so we just talked for the hour. The key really is no matter what you do, look out for yourself in the best way possible.
But yeah regardless, everyone offers different services for whatever reasons. The only hard limit I can't stand for industry wide is BB.
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There's nothing wrong with GFE but most review sites or ads allow for putting hard limits out there right off the bat.
I've noticed very emotionally troubled clients will start pestering for activities like kissing, bare (anything) or even skipping condoms. Due to my hard earned experience avoiding this kind of client is very important because people with emotional/mental instability tend to indulge in other, high-risk activity that can expose a sex worker to harm. (In my past I've banned a bisexual IV drug addict, a schizophrenic crackhead, and a guy with Parkinson's who could have gotten me reported to LE.)
Protect yourself, pay attention to red flags. There is a sea of potential clients out there. Another one will come along very quickly.
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I do because I do GFE and it helps me get more in the mood and it just makes it more real... Im old though and most of the men I meet are old married guys... I'll always ask if they prefer a condom for oral but for sex it's not negotiable ever...
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SnuffleUffleGrass
I've noticed very emotionally troubled clients will start pestering for activities like kissing, bare (anything) or even skipping condoms.
Indeed...when a guy pushes boundaries, no matter what those boundaries are, hes a douchebag with zero respect. I am not PSE and don't do certain activities that while not unsafe and common, are not activities I'm not comfortable with. When I get a guy who keeps trying to convince me, he has issues. Because it's not even because it's what he wants, the allure is that it's something I do not want. And to me, that's a creepy and potentially dangerous guy. Boundary pushers are waving red flags.
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BlkSharpie
Indeed...when a guy pushes boundaries, no matter what those boundaries are, hes a douchebag with zero respect. I am not PSE and don't do certain activities that while not unsafe and common, are not activities I'm not comfortable with. When I get a guy who keeps trying to convince me, he has issues. Because it's not even because it's what he wants, the allure is that it's something I do not want. And to me, that's a creepy and potentially dangerous guy. Boundary pushers are waving red flags.
Absolutely. I've also discovered some guys get off on being verbally abusive if they don't get what they want. I'm thisclose to reporting a former client on P 411 because he has been sending the most inhumanly disgusting messages to me. I actually think he's suffering from dementia. However the times I saw him he was perfectly lucid. I think he's just a creep......Normally I hate making waves on forums or referral service sites but this guy is legit disgusting.
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If I can't find at least one thing about you attractive, it's an automatic NO. Beyond that point, If a client requests kissing, I usually first whip out my phone flashlight & inspect the inside of their mouths. I know this may seem extremely invasive, but your health is first & foremost! No amount of coinage is worth being irresponsible imo. now I know this isn't 100% foolproof, but it gives me piece of mind. And oral sex without protection is out of the question for me. Also, STD'S aren't the only risk you're taking by kissing on the mouth, it's also a quick way to expose yourself to colds, flu's, stomach bugs, & god knows what else. Take your vitamins & any other supplements to boost your immune system.
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SnuffleUffleGrass
Absolutely. I've also discovered some guys get off on being verbally abusive if they don't get what they want. I'm thisclose to reporting a former client on P 411 because he has been sending the most inhumanly disgusting messages to me. I actually think he's suffering from dementia. However the times I saw him he was perfectly lucid. I think he's just a creep......Normally I hate making waves on forums or referral service sites but this guy is legit disgusting.
Report him! Trust me...dont be afraid to give your experience and describe what happened as a cautionary tale. I always said, blacklists are just warnings and one ladys experience...its something to take into consideration. I saw a guy who was A-OK.. as long as he was sober. As soon as he had a drink, he was effing terrifying. Saw him a couple of times, and things were just fine...but then suddenly I started to get these wacked out insane emails, then he wrote a false review of me that said I did all sorts of...insane things Id never do for a guy on a date. I FREAKED OUT ...luckily it was on my local board, I was able to talk to the admin and have it removed. And that is when Admin let me know he had gotten a few reports about the guy, that he turns crazy when drunk and that the review definitely fit in with his drunken rage writings he does, so he removed it no problem.
Wasnt til after all that when I spoke up about it, that other ladies were like oooh yeah him? Yeah..he does that. so annoying. No one wanted to say anything because its not like hes dangerous, just a nasty drunk. Im like dude...this needs to be said and heard!!! Later on, found out that he got obsessed with some woman, and while drunk, showed up at her incall and was banging on the windows and causing a scene, screaming about what she did there for the neighbors to hear. Dude...no. At least with some warning, one would know to never do incall with him, or to be very cautious about his behavior to make sure he hadnt been drinking, or to know that is not a guy to share a bottle of wine with etc. In your case, just putting the info out there will help a lady decide if she does see him at all, how to manage the date and keep her distance. Info is power lol
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Originally Posted by
BlkSharpie
Report him! Trust me...dont be afraid to give your experience and describe what happened as a cautionary tale. I always said, blacklists are just warnings and one ladys experience...its something to take into consideration. I saw a guy who was A-OK.. as long as he was sober. As soon as he had a drink, he was effing terrifying. Saw him a couple of times, and things were just fine...but then suddenly I started to get these wacked out insane emails, then he wrote a false review of me that said I did all sorts of...insane things Id never do for a guy on a date. I FREAKED OUT ...luckily it was on my local board, I was able to talk to the admin and have it removed. And that is when Admin let me know he had gotten a few reports about the guy, that he turns crazy when drunk and that the review definitely fit in with his drunken rage writings he does, so he removed it no problem.
Wasnt til after all that when I spoke up about it, that other ladies were like oooh yeah him? Yeah..he does that. so annoying. No one wanted to say anything because its not like hes dangerous, just a nasty drunk. Im like dude...this needs to be said and heard!!! Later on, found out that he got obsessed with some woman, and while drunk, showed up at her incall and was banging on the windows and causing a scene, screaming about what she did there for the neighbors to hear. Dude...no. At least with some warning, one would know to never do incall with him, or to be very cautious about his behavior to make sure he hadnt been drinking, or to know that is not a guy to share a bottle of wine with etc. In your case, just putting the info out there will help a lady decide if she does see him at all, how to manage the date and keep her distance. Info is power lol
I did report him. I'm going to keep this under my hat but if girls on the board ask about him I'll be honest. The dude is basically an old gross redneck with money so if any girl chooses to take him, I will tip my hat to her. I just don't have the patience anymore for people like him.
Edit to add- if you really want to go the extra mile after an appointment to be hygenic, gargle Listerine. I had a RN client who would gargle a mix of hydrogen peroxide & Scope. (lol.) According to recent research, plain Dollar Store Listerine works as well to kill unwanted bacteria in the mouth. I ALWAYS bathed after appointments. Full soap, full rinse.
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Well, If they ask me beforehand, I'll tell them I will kiss them only if they have good hygiene, and let them know that I plan on having good hygiene as well. And when I do kiss them I will keep my mouth closed, even when they try to stick their tongue in my mouth. Like, I will firmly keep my mouth shut and reject their trying to put their tongue in my mouth, because I kind of find it disgusting to swap spit with someone in general, especially if I am not into them. They usually get the hint that I am not into it and dont keep trying to kiss me anymore. And yes, I have let guys go down on me, but not if they are really dirty and dont seem to take care of their health. Yes, I know that this is not a way to tell if someone has something. But that is how I do it, and I just try to keep up with my health status as often as possible, as a result.
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i will say Juliana, thats one thing I hate about reviews... Ive had situations where a guy will try to DFK and I am NOT HAVING IT. Like you, I keep my lips shut and avoid kissing him, redirect him when he tried to go down, etc. Its only happened twice..one guy said its clearly in my reviews that I will do that and asked me what was up with that (yeeeeeeah, at my discretion buddy. And youre a no go) I just stared at him and smiled sweetly...probably kinda creepy now that I think about it :D LOL but I didnt want to be all, you taste gross and theres no way your mouth is getting up and personal with my body.
The other guy didnt bring it up, but he later wrote me to say he had a great time and apologized perfusely saying he ate something that I could probably smell etc etc. I guess he got the hint and felt self conscious...figuring rightly if I refused to do something with him that is in my reviews, theres a reason for it.
But yeah...no matter what, everything is always our discretion. Reviews sure can be a blessing or a curse though.