Having a hard time spending money in a club
Weird one for me right now. I have been going to clubs for about 2+ years every 2 weeks when I travel to Chicago and have had some really great times at a few clubs. Found one where the ladies were beautiful and fun to talk to. Normally I spend $250+ on a dancer plus buy her a drink or two if she would like. Over the last 6 months I was in one club and had two dancers I regularly spent an hour or so with and I tipped them at the table and after dances. I like the conversation, get a few privates and head out. Recently my travel has changed and I am in STL and have not spent more than $100 a night on 6 different occasions in 4 different clubs. Essentially the conversation or game is poor by the ladies. I know it is work to hustle me and I try to make it somewhat enjoyable by trying to converse with a dancer. I like to have some sort of connection before a private dance, you know, humor, intelligence, something but so far it hasn't been very enjoyable at the clubs. I also let ladies know after 5-10 minutes if I don't think I will buy a dance and tip them a $20 or so for their time. My question is am I being unreasonable in my expectations? I know I am not a great looking guy but I am not Quasimodo either. I am pretty fit, I always shower, shave and wear decent clothes and I am a person that smiles at others by nature. I also know that I am at a club to exchange money for time/beauty and I have no illusions that this is a relationship outside of business. I just prefer to spend an hour or two at a club rather than in my hotel room, sit with a lovely woman and have the illusion that we are enjoying each other's company. I am not trying to be disrespectful but I am wondering if STL is that much different than Chicago or is it I have been spoiled by the last few dancers I was with?
Re: Having a hard time spending money in a club
I can't speak for STL since I've never been there. Chicago is more up my alley, as I've worked there many times. First, pay attention to your body language. Certain body language can give the impression that you do not wish to be bothered. You said that you let the ladies know after 5-10 minutes if you don't think they you will buy a dance. They might think that you're one of those stingy cheapo's. I know if I was a dancer at that club and you came right out and told me that you had no interest in buying a dance from me, I would accept the $20 tip but focus my efforts elsewhere, on other customers. I don't waste time on guys who make it obvious that they're not interested in me. It's counterproductive. If you see a dancer that you think that you might like to talk to, make eye contact, smile, and engage her in conversation. Tip as necessary. I can't imagine that the STL dancers would be drastically different from dancers anywhere else.
Re: Having a hard time spending money in a club
I don't think the OP is expecting the girls to hang out for $20, he just gives them a $20 if he realizes they don't click enough for her to be the girl he wants to hang out with for an hour or two. Hmm, maybe shop around at lots of different clubs. I've worked at a couple and at some the conversation game is sooooo poor, it's really just a place to go to get your dick grinded on lol, but at my main club you'll find lots of girls who will both have great conversations and dance. If I was an out of town customer I would definitely prefer the type of club where we talk too, because travelling can getlonely after awhile! Good luck!
Re: Having a hard time spending money in a club
CoinOperatedGirl gets it in one. :) I try to save dancers time and energy if it isn't right and give a small tip to show it isn't personal. I will try a different club on Monday and see what happens.
Re: Having a hard time spending money in a club
Lots of things in StL are NOT like Chicago.... Its only 300 miles away......but there is are significant differences in the cities, (size, the people, culture etc.) You might not find that 'Chicago' dancer in STL.....just as you probably wouldn't find a Dallas type dancer in NYC.
Re: Having a hard time spending money in a club
Well, StL is quite different from Chicago as Lemiwinks31 pointed out and the clubs are very diverse. Basically you go to Illinois to find clubs. I think I found one that may become my go to when I a travel and stay for a couple of days. Some of of the clubs are largely extras clubs based on my admittedly short stays and some are not my cup of tea, that is ok too. I guess I am looking for a few dances, some conversation and then I go off and the dancer can try and find a whale to win big for the night. Monday eve was a nice visit to two clubs in Sauget, across the river from StL and the two are quite different in their approach. In one club I enjoyed the CW Rock theme music but the massive dildo they had for "bull-riding" was just weird in my opinion. The sister club was quieter and the music was not as good but the atmosphere was closer to what I was looking for. Found several attractive dancers at both clubs so I think I will find ways to waste my money in StL after all.