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Do you prefer champagne rooms or lap hopping?
Personally I prefer CR/private room hustling...I find it quite exhausting to lap hop for two songs or whatever a pop all night. I also don't approach every customer in the club either and focus on the people who are looking at me or the ones I can tell or my "type." This always works for me, sans sleeping on the occasional customer and then regretting it.
But I've been working at a club that used to be good, I like it there it's very laid back and like I said used to be good...but has taken a complete nose dive over the past several months...there seems to be like no hiring standards anymore that may be part of it (?) The girls I see making "money" do the lap hopping hustle and go up to everyone or have regulars. I have made all my money off my customers for quite a long time now, and if they can't come by, it's a serious gamble.
Would you girls adjust your hustle accordingly, like approaching everyone and lap hopping, to the club or move on to a different club?
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Why not try both? Can you switch off between clubs and see how it goes?
I constantly adjust my hustle, so I would say, adapt to the situation. Hop laps, try to sell CR's, and do dances if the CR doesn't sell.
Personally, I have had too many bad experiences in CR's, and I usually haaate going back there. I try not to bring it up unless it's a customer I approve of. So I upsell to the highest priced dances and aim to talk to every customer in the club.
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I have a love/hate relationship with the CR. With the right girls and the right customers, it can be a lucrative blast.
OTOH... if you are in there with either a grabby guy or an extras girl, it sucks.
Best to be discerning when it comes to CRs. I lap hop and have a lot of regulars
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CR all the way, that's the best, imo you can make way more that way if you score a whale. but my favorite club is a lap hop club with no vip. you should be able to do both i think. even at CR clubs i usually lap hop until i find someone who wants to do a room. you should never count on getting a vip
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I love VIPs. I can carry a conversation so they are easy for me.
In some clubs lap hopping money can exceed VIPs but that's not the norm.
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When I danced I liked the piece of mind of the CR, the club I worked at had a great cut over the individual vip.I would try and most of the time get a least a few hours a night, if not I would do VIP, stage,VIP.
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I find the people that have money and take it from them. I do table dances (great advertising), private dances, and CR (which I like but sometimes is more work than its worth - like doing one hour i sometimes feel I work harder than if I'd danced for a few guys in that time) Sometimes it takes a while to get paid, sometimes because they think their doing you a favour they act entitled then don't tip.... Every hustle has pros and cons IMO.
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I prefer to sit and have a man pay me to tell me how gorgeous he thinks I am. lol. That can happen at either one of those clubs. But honestly, it just depends on my mood; I go back and forth between "wanna dance"/make it rain clubs and gentlemens clubs. Generally money between the two clubs is also the same for me (my averages); but if a gentlemen clubs has significant highs and lows that wears me down fast and I go back to something a bit more consistent. I do like the high earning potential of VIP's...but I have found that largely comes down to the customer, not always the club.
(ie. you can make into the thousands in a wanna dance/make it rain club by applying the right kind of gentlemens club hustle to the right customer)
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I like to make as much money as I can off of a handful of people. Doing single dances is too exhausting.
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Thanks for the input ladies. I find I like to zero in on my customer base instead of lap hopping and it usually works but this could be filed under "hustle mistake" at this particular club I was at lol. In any case I feel like the money has dried up or it's not working for me anymore. Sigh
I second what some have said about grabby weird guys and girls who you don't know. I almost always do them alone for this reason. Guys have usually been okay with the exception of some. I also like the ability to conversate and keep the time moving. I just love the guaranteed $xxx as opposed to not knowing how many dances they will buy.
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Champagne rooms all the way. I'll only ask for a dance after I have exhausted all my options on getting a room.
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I prefer CR because the money is done upfront. There's not pressure to keep him hooked & buying another after each dance, ya know? I have sold him on the room, the money is handled & if he crosses a line I can walk out & still be paid for the full time.
That said if you can't get a CR, you shouldn't turn down the single dances. Many nights I've watched the 'spoiled brat' of the club try to bully guys into the CR and by the time she's finally walking some guy to the half-hour room, I've already sold the equivalent $$ in $20 dances... Guess who leaves with more money?
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selina m
that said if you can't get a cr, you shouldn't turn down the single dances. Many nights i've watched the 'spoiled brat' of the club try to bully guys into the cr and by the time she's finally walking some guy to the half-hour room, i've already sold the equivalent $$ in $20 dances... Guess who leaves with more money?
truth
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also I don't get the - I don't do table dances girls. I get it if you're not happy with your body but who turns down $ you can make right there for half a song because I never wait for a new song to start and anyways they don't expect you too... Also that is so easy to parlay into a private...
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^ It's an ego thing I think. Like here the table dances are $10, so it's basically insulting that he wouldn't even go up to a $20 booth dance. So they get the "i'm too good for a $10 dance" mentality.
I don't like doing table dances because our chairs are SO bad (they are literally designed to make the guy uncomfortable enough to want to go to a booth) and it's taxing on me physically - you basically have to stand/crouch over the guy the whole time or else balance your knee on a tiny spot between his legs.
It's also irritating because most guys who get $10 dances are broke & only get 1 song anyway... so I'm wasting essentially another half a song putting the top of my outfit back on & waiting for him to inevitably fish out his 10 wrinkled $1 bills or making change for his $20.
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^^ Ok I get it, here we have a two song minimum on the floor or in VIP. So it's always at least 20$ no contact. And people will sometimes do 100$ worth of table dances. It's not seen as the cheap option so much as the PG-13, I don't want to get in too much trouble option, and here our CR prices are cheap compared to the states so I think girls want to perceive themselves as CR girls rather than actually considering their money
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table dances usually get me good attention and leads to more sales from other guys/girls that are watching. I'm good at them but they can get exhausting.. i will always ask if they prefer a lap dance though. and it is true that a lot of the guys can be cheap, but a lot also then throw money on you down here.
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Oh I don't turn down anything. I was just saying what I prefer. I always bring up
Both and if they just want a dance okay. My opinion is I'd rather work in a room-dominated place. Like it's been said too, the money is done upfront. Where I live dances are $20. My opinion may be shaped by where I'm from though. I agree dances are a good parlay into private. I'm not a brat about it I just find dance after dance exhausting and sometimes disheartening.
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I turn down table dances because around here you dance in a horseshoe table for a bunch of guys and they're allowed to touch you! It's like you're being suffocated by an octopus. And girls do lesbian shows and stuff which guys have come to expect and that's a no go for me. The tables all wet usually and I feel like I'll just break my neck.
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^^^ OMG Ewwwwwwwww. I wouldn't do that either.
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Some girls bank at Sundowner with table dances but I just can't do them. I'd do them no problem if they were no contact. I actually wish I could just get over it because there's a two hour period where I'm just standing around cause everyone wants table dances and I'm too shy! lol
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I don't like couples because four is too many hands- can't imagine contact dances on the floor, anyone can just reach in and grab!!!
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Layla.00
Some girls bank at Sundowner with table dances but I just can't do them. I'd do them no problem if they were no contact. I actually wish I could just get over it because there's a two hour period where I'm just standing around cause everyone wants table dances and I'm too shy! lol
Girl, ain't nothing wrong with knowing your worth. ;)
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It depends on the mood i am in. I mostly prefer selling long vip blocks because money, but on nights i am low on mental/emotional energy it's nice to do a few songs and move along rather than having to entertain the same guy for hour(s).
Edit: i worked a bar up north that had one-way contact table dances for $30 and i fucking loved them. Like didn't have to put any effort into selling cause a guy would see you do q good dance and want one, or the group would keep handing you money. I could see how cheap/contact ones would get annoying fast though.
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BOTH! I get very anxious being in the CR too long, once I've secured my money for the time, I am on a count down & all I can think about is preforming as quickly/effectively as possible & getti my ass back on the floor so I don't miss anyone new that has come in while I was back there. Don't get me wrong, I will totally pick a CR over lap hopping, but I try to do both. I know there are some guys who refuse to even do VIPS, so I just get what I can out of them & move on to the next