Did i just get hired at a brothel?
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I am 18 and have never worked at a club but i called into this all nude club in my area. Its only private dances and fantasy stuff. I read a lot of reviews (only from customers) and the gist of them all was that this was a "jack shack" and the service varied each visit. From what i understand, the girls line up and customers select who and for how long theyd like a private dance and pay upfront. Payout is soley dependent on how much each girl makes. Here's where it gets weird: today the owner met me at a park near my house instead of a coffee shop (my idea to switch up; i explained i didnt have a ride out to the club and he offered to meet near me) He checked my id, and pretty much said i could start saturday at 10am. I asked what i needed to bring and he explained that each girl has their own "dorm" of sorts and i should just bring a few outfits and a pillow and a sheet cuz "its working from day to late at night". I mean i could see maybe this being a preference for the girls who work there for comfort in between customers or to relax??? But it still is raises some flags for me. Has anyone ever heard of this?? The name of the place is Ladies en Confident in Denver, Colorado (usa). The have a website and everything else seems pretty legit.
**Im sorry if this is the wrong place to post this!
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A pillow & a sheet? A dorm?
Run....
Never in all my years of working at strip clubs in several different states did the owner insist on meeting me outside the club much less in a park.
You are way to young to get roped into a place like that & get a regular job over this. You may think it is good or fast money but it isn't.
If it were to get busted & you arrested the cost in the long run would be expensive & having a record means lots of regular jobs in your future will never be possible.
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Oh my goodness! Yeah, i posted this right after meeting the guy and while thping that i'd already made up my mind. It just seems so bizzare that even though i did EXTENSIVE research on this place, tuscl and a even yelp reviews all made it seem like this place was just a different style of an otherwise normal club and i even checked reviews going back to 2008! The same guy who told me this also reiterated that they dont tolerate illegal activity or allow any escorting. It sparked my interest because it is far from my school and its 24hr. I know im young, and somewhat naive and gullible so thank you for any advice. I knew that sounded too crazy, even for an "alternative" place.
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Initially it seemed so ideal, but if it sounds too good to be true than it probably is i suppose. It just sucks finding clubs where i wont run into other students, but i have decent paying "regular" job. What should i do now?
Edit: not that it makes much of a difference, but meeting outside of the club was my preference and to my convenience; i arranged it.
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Look, I used to live in CO and to my knowledge I've never even heard of that place. So it must be new, like within the last 5 years new. I know of the strip clubs in there and I have never once been told of the managers wanting them to bring sheets and pillows . They're probaby doing some serious shady shit in addition to it obviously being a brothel
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I've never been to or worked there but from reading the reviews, that doesn't sound like a place for a young girl who is new to this scene to be working at. It sounds like it could be a brothel. Bring your own sheets and a pillow? Private rooms instead of an actual strip club with a stage, bar, etc? Wet wipes and tissues? There are people mentioning jacking off and some reviews that seem to imply that more than just dancing is going on. I've worked in some shady places but that just takes the cake. I suggest you find somewhere else to work. You're still young. You don't want to end up getting busted working at a place like that. Prostitution charges are no joke.
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I was curious so looked it up on Google. The reviews attached to Google Maps say that dances are all done in private rooms that have hand lotion tissues and wet wipes displayed right on the table in each room. Yikes. Doesn't really sound like it's a strip club.
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In addition to everything mentioned above the pricing seems low. According to the website it's $90 for a 20 minute nude show (dancer tip included).
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PLEASE take the time & read on this site, start w/Newbie section & go from there.
Try to be more careful, this Asshole could've drugged you, taken you somewhere & trafficked you.
Please look up what trafficking is, it's horrible & happens more than you think.
Take care!
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what you described isn't unheard of here in texas, we have several "jack shacks", i met a girl once who worked at once who said she liked it.. and i believe it is legal. each girl has a room, guy picks a girl, they go into her room and she does a "show" while he jerks himself off. the girl i talked to said she liked it because it's "self service" so the guys don't touch you. clubs are high contact here so i actually thought about trying to work at one but i'm pretty sure you don't make as much as you would at an actual club.
anyways, because of the low pricing paired and the fact that they've been super sketchy/unprofessional so far i would agree with everyone else that you should avoid this place. if the website says 90$ that's what the guy pays which means you'll probably get way less after the "club" takes it's cut. way too little.
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Seriously, I would look into a hostess job or maybe a hooters girl or a bikini barista or something that you could make $1-300 in tips or something looking sexy and cute all while learning how guys act and more about dancing, if that is the path you want to choose.
But honestly I would advise you to stay far far far FAR away from dancing if you even THOUGHT this place was "legit" enough to waste your time meeting the owner after reading the reviews online. I can't even imagine how many customers bs you would end up believing at work and end up putting yourself in life threatening situations! This industry can be very DANGEROUS. Thank god you at least posted in here asking for advice...
But seriously.... stay away from dancing. You are too young and naive. Make decent money at a normal job, study dancing from Freedom V or Strip and Grow rich and then start dancing in your early twenties when you feel you are more educated. Also, always carry mace. Be safe.
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Sam38g
A pillow & a sheet? A dorm?
Run....
Never in all my years of working at strip clubs in several different states did the owner insist on meeting me outside the club much less in a park.
You are way to young to get roped into a place like that & get a regular job over this. You may think it is good or fast money but it isn't.
If it were to get busted & you arrested the cost in the long run would be expensive & having a record means lots of regular jobs in your future will never be possible.
This.
You go to a club to get hired. Never meet anyone at a park again. You meet them at the place of business. A jack shack is not a club. Go to a a club that is a CLUB, with a bar and poles and no "dorms". I have never needed a pillow of sheet!! Avoid this place. I would read and study this board, and wait a little older before you start dancing. Please check with us before doing any more interviews...you seem very naīve and people can and will take advantage of you.
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^ Yes, obviously don't don't do this unless you are sure you are comfortable with extra services - read the signs.
There are so many places where " less " is offered so start there.
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Girl Anachronism
what you described isn't unheard of here in texas, we have several "jack shacks", i met a girl once who worked at once who said she liked it.. and i believe it is legal. each girl has a room, guy picks a girl, they go into her room and she does a "show" while he jerks himself off. the girl i talked to said she liked it because it's "self service" so the guys don't touch you. clubs are high contact here so i actually thought about trying to work at one but i'm pretty sure you don't make as much as you would at an actual club.
anyways, because of the low pricing paired and the fact that they've been super sketchy/unprofessional so far i would agree with everyone else that you should avoid this place. if the website says 90$ that's what the guy pays which means you'll probably get way less after the "club" takes it's cut. way too little.
Where in Texas is that legal?
What city? What clubs?
I know Texas & have a really hard time thinking that it true. Nor do I believe that men pay any kind of money even if it was $5 & don't ask the girls to help.
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Sam38g
Where in Texas is that legal?
What city? What clubs?
I know Texas & have a really hard time thinking that it true. Nor do I believe that men pay any kind of money even if it was $5 & don't ask the girls to help.
umm i can name 3 of them in austin and i've heard they're in other cities too like houston.
the ones here are pleasures, dollhouse and mardi gras. they've been around for years supposedly. i pass by two of them on the freeway all the time. pleasures tries to advertise like a club- the sign outside says live nude girls. and they are 24/7, it's weird.
also, i forget which one it was but i saw one even advertised golden shower shows on their website..
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Girl Anachronism
umm i can name 3 of them in austin and i've heard they're in other cities too like houston.
the ones here are pleasures, dollhouse and mardi gras. they've been around for years supposedly. i pass by two of them on the freeway all the time. pleasures tries to advertise like a club- the sign outside says live nude girls. and they are 24/7, it's weird.
also, i forget which one it was but i saw one even advertised golden shower shows on their website..
Golden showers would be ILLEGAL because it is a body fluid & health department would NEVER allow it & neither would OSHA.
There are health codes, OSHA laws when it comes to body fluids. I used to work in Dallas at a Tanning Salon, mere sweat had to be cleaned off of the tanning beds with cleaning solutions verified usable by the health department. So if the laws are picky about just sweat, jizz & piss really would be an issue.
Just looked up Pleasures, they called themselves a strip club, which means they have to obey strip club laws. Also read they are closed now.
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Girl Anachronism
umm i can name 3 of them in austin and i've heard they're in other cities too like houston.
the ones here are pleasures, dollhouse and mardi gras. they've been around for years supposedly. i pass by two of them on the freeway all the time. pleasures tries to advertise like a club- the sign outside says live nude girls. and they are 24/7, it's weird.
also, i forget which one it was but i saw one even advertised golden shower shows on their website..
Did some reading up on Houston & all the raids that went on there in 2013 with the strip clubs & prostitution. Highly doubt if those places are doing what you say they are operating legally.
Cause Texas is still the bible belt & with the Republicans in charge. They'd never allow places like that to exist legally.
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^i was under the impression that some of it was legal but other things went on that probably weren't. i dunno though. i've noticed that a lot of stuff goes on in texas clubs and no one seems to care much.
you can still get busted though of course, you never know. actually.. now that i think about it, there are also tons of "AMP's" (asian massage parlors as the guys call them) and i read an article a few months ago about how they got busted finally. in kind of an interesting way, all the condoms they were flushing clogged their pipes
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...QYksE9bFe0tgI/
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Girl Anachronism
^i was under the impression that some of it was legal but other things went on that probably weren't. i dunno though. i've noticed that a lot of stuff goes on in texas clubs and no one seems to care much.
you can still get busted though of course, you never know. actually.. now that i think about it, there are also tons of "AMP's" (asian massage parlors as the guys call them) and i read an article a few months ago about how they got busted finally. in kind of an interesting way, all the condoms they were flushing clogged their pipes
http://www.statesman.com/news/local/...QYksE9bFe0tgI/
Being from Texas, I know Texas. Texas will never legalize that kind of thing. the management & the girls if those allegations are true were breaking the law. Also know men, they aren't just going to jerk off they want blow jobs & sex.
The 2013 bust was huge. They do go through every few years & clean things up.
No matter where you dance, knowing the local laws in important. In my 20s the law in Dallas was that all table dances required 12 inches between you & the customer at all times. There were plenty of men & plenty of $20 to be had without grinding. :)
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Sam38g
Being from Texas, I know Texas. Texas will never legalize that kind of thing. the management & the girls if those allegations are true were breaking the law. Also know men, they aren't just going to jerk off they want blow jobs & sex.
The 2013 bust was huge. They do go through every few years & clean things up.
No matter where you dance, knowing the local laws in important. In my 20s the law in Dallas was that all table dances required 12 inches between you & the customer at all times. There were plenty of men & plenty of $20 to be had without grinding. :)
do you know if that's still the law? i haven't tried dancing in dallas yet, but touching seems to be the norm in austin and houston. contact/grinding to some degree is pretty much expected here but i realize that doesn't necessarily mean it's legal.
i really hate that it's like this because i'm from orange county where i made the same, if not more money just giving zero contact bikini dances. i miss that. the girls here do way too much for $20. ugh.. i would hate to get caught up in a raid though. i feel like if they ever did one here pretty much everyone would end up in trouble including a lot of the managers smh
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Girl Anachronism
do you know if that's still the law? i haven't tried dancing in dallas yet, but touching seems to be the norm in austin and houston. contact/grinding to some degree is pretty much expected here but i realize that doesn't necessarily mean it's legal.
i really hate that it's like this because i'm from orange county where i made the same, if not more money just giving zero contact bikini dances. i miss that. the girls here do way too much for $20. ugh.. i would hate to get caught up in a raid though. i feel like if they ever did one here pretty much everyone would end up in trouble including a lot of the managers smh
Maybe it goes on, doesn't mean it is legal. :)
Managers rarely get in trouble, just the girls. Bro code protects them. They will lie to the cops & say they told the women not to do it.
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^^^Yep the dancers are ALWAYS the scapegoat. 99.9% the only people charged is the dancers, the managers, hosts, owners, house moms etc. all get the convient excuse of blaming it all on us even if it's THEM pushing a culture of illegal activity. And we pay them to work there lol...ain't that a bitch
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Sam38g
Did some reading up on Houston & all the raids that went on there in 2013 with the strip clubs & prostitution. Highly doubt if those places are doing what you say they are operating legally.
Cause Texas is still the bible belt & with the Republicans in charge. They'd never allow places like that to exist legally.
Girl Anachronism is right. There's a shit ton of really wild and/or outright illegal activity going on in the adult entertainment businesses here. Lots of places don't last long, get busted and shut down. Some places get raided and fined....and some just manage to out maneuver the cops. In any case there's never a shortage of shady.
I know of at least one jack shack in Austin and that's Mardi Gras, which is in plain view on the southbound side of i35. IN AZ (also the Bible Belt), there are/were several jack shacks. They legally got away with it (or so they claimed) by requiring a 4ft distance between entertainer and customer. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a similar loophole in TX.
And unless things have changed recently, Austin historically hasn't had a vice squad. So there haven't been massive raids there like there have been in Houston. Pimps know and exploit this. Despite the lower club earnings potential in comparison to Dallas and Houston, Austin is a big trafficking hub pimps move girls through. There's a whole circuit they run - shuffling girls between Beaumont, Houston, Austin, Dallas, Oklahoma City, Little Rock, Shreveport, and sometimes Lake Charles.
Dallas always has a ton of 'massage parlors' 'modeling studios' etc. Most get shut down after a year or two. Others manage to stick around and it's like.....how?!?!? ������ There's a back street not far off the 35 and Royal Ln in Dallas with a slew of them. They've been around forever and are known for trafficking underage Asian girls. Yet they manage to stick around. It's sickening.
No matter how right wing and religious TX is, the attitude of 'it isn't illegal if you don't get caught' tends to prevail. I actually think the right wing, religious nature of the area is WHY things can be so crazy out here. All that repression and being told no only drives up demand.
The current lap dance laws in Dallas allow mild 1 way contact and dancers are supposed to keep one foot on the floor at all times. That isn't a typical Dallas dance though....