https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAfUI_hETy0
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Wow, that's fucked up and doesn't improve my faith or trust in cops.
Hopefully this is just an isolated case and not the norm.
We might hope some police will take their jobs seriously, but the statement of the law is correct. It is also unlikely if you are attacked police will be able to respond promptly, even if they are trying.
Never depend upon the police.
All of them do code blue & protect the rapist & killers on their forces for decades and more. They can rape or kill you and NOTHING will ever happen to them. All cops are racist.
Cops dont do anything. All you can do is start a file on someone.
I've occasionally heard of police officers being arrested and charged with rape. One police officer in Oklahoma was sentenced to 263 years in prison for rape.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/us/okl...ing/index.html
On Forensic Files, I remember there being a few cases where police officers were convicted of rape and/or murder.
1 out of 1000 rapist will ever go to jail. Now, only 34% of rapes are ever reported. Some don't out of fear of retaliation. How easy is it to report that a cop raped you? Code blue is a gang that protects it' own.
Cops who rape usually go after under 18 year old girls & mostly WOC, they are the easiest to scare into not reporting it.
Just because 1 or 4 cops get caught & go to jail is pathetic numbers, when it happens much more.
Damn why you have to go there?....Out of all the races being racist you had to think about "the black ones" ....hmm THAT's interesting
she didn't specify race so the assumption was that ALL cops are racist - her statement is a generalization
And wtf? I can't believe police (with guns and/or tasers/mace or something) didn't do anything...........and had the gall to take credit for taking him down
^Yes I think that is true that a small percentage of cops (Black cops included) can be racist against other races as well as their own.
But when I read her statement, she didn't specify a race, so I assumed she meant ALL of them - asian, black, white, etc.
He instantly jumped to conclusions and was like "hmm the black ones too"? Didn't ask her to clarify but instead instantly put it out there how focused he was on - "the black ones" ....Wtf?
The most interesting fact about this video is that we are all paying taxes for these cops who do under the law do NOT have to protect us. We are paying for protection that does not LEGALLY exist anymore.
Which brings up the question of what is their job? Are making arrest to target certain groups to put them in prison, a prison ran by private companies that ONLY get paid by how man there are currently serving time.
Do they get kick backs for filling up these private prisons? Which would explain planting of evidence? Arresting those who were not breaking the law would make more sense if they target low income areas. Who can not afford a lawyer who would fight false charges.
Are they being given quotas so they can fill up those private prisons?
Cops who don't have to legally protect us is a problem. Turns them into a private military force and that is occupying the U.S. that we are all paying for. It turns us from a Republic into a Dictatorship.
But go ahead & get bogged down by the typical GOP divide & conquer tactics of Putin & the GOP by racial lines. Totally forget the bigger picture here & make it about race.
They don't have to protect of of us no matter what race we are & do decline to do so LEGALLY! POC are always the first targets & the very reason the GOP & KKK want to demonize the Black Live Matter. They want us to accept this violence upon another race just like the Nazis did the Jews so they can take over a country.
If you don't stand up for others, there will be no one left to stand up for you.
This guy went to court over this issue twice & twice the court upheld the ruling that the police do NOT have to protect you even against a violent crime. These two cops stood back & watched a man being stabbed to death. They had GUNS, there were two of them. They have training to deal with physical violence. YET they just stood back & watched.
Tell me, when being attacked with a knife & fighting for you life. Do you look around & figure out the ethnic heritage of the attacker, the cops or others around you?
WOC of color are targeted the most by predators. They are raped more by cops than white woman. It is a fact and since most cops are racist & don't believe women when we report rapes & tell us it is our fault.
It is double discrimination and the reason why so many cops who rape get away with it. How can anyone NOT be outraged by the bro-code/bluewall that is enabling these crimes to continue to happen is beyond me.
Knowing that if you are attacked that cops can stand there & do NOTHING is terrifying. We have not listened, we have not paid enough attention to the minority voice that have been trying to warn us.
Okay so was that law just some bs created so the Police Departments wouldn't constantly be getting sued?
Thankfully my experiences with police have been good but it still sucks knowing that you could be getting murked in process right in front of them and they have the right to just sit back and play candy crush on their phone.
What's the purpose of "Protect and Serve" slogan? And why do they need guns then?
Do you think there was any logical reason these police officers didn't help this man getting stabbed on the subway? I mean 2 of them and I assume they had vests/guns/tasers/etc could have taken down that psycho.
This is unreal.
Emergency services in America are fucked up. The workers are human. They are NOT fucking vetted, trained, or compensated the way they should be if we want them to actually do the job that we think of them doing. Most firefighters default to not giving a shit about the call they're on if it's not a raging building fire with tons of people to heroically save. EMS workers default to thinking all their patients are full of shit and throwing them around like a sack of potatoes. Most cops default to being regular human beings who are like "Why the fuck would I put myself in harm's way, with completely inadequate training for this situation, for maybe 30k a year?"
I'm not saying this is right. This is total bullshit. We need to vet prospective cops better. TRAIN them better. And then, with the good ones, pay them better. Expect better. Fire and punish the bad ones. The idealized view we have of emergency services here is not the same as what the law actually dictates of them. I say this as someone IN emergency services and constantly disappointed by what I see... If the institutions aren't putting into place mechanisms to weed out bad apples and give incentives to workers to be what they are supposed to be, cops, and all others, will just continue being regular-ass working Joes.
And that's not who I want to entrust my life to. We need to expect and demand better from the people who respond when we dial 911. There is no 9-1-2. We are supposed to be the best. I am saddened that we are not and no one can trust in that.
This is nothing new,
Before the mid-1800s, American and British citizens - even in large cities - were expected to protect themselves and each other. Indeed, they were legally required to pursue and attempt to apprehend criminals. The notion of a police force in those days was abhorrent in England and America, where liberals viewed it as a form of the dreaded "standing army."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren...ct_of_Columbia
http://www.barneslawllp.com/police-n...uired-protect/
https://www.policeone.com/police-job...duty-doctrine/
https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/k...rotection.html
Another bad extension of the police state?! :(
How closely do we want the government watching us?
We don'[email protected] least I don't, but that choice seems to be narrowing down fast. :(
They are VETTED.
They are TRAINED.
If you don't think they are go apply for a job at the police station. They have to fill out a job application. A criminal history is done on them & they are interviewed. Then they have to be trained in how to handle & shoot a gun. They have to be trained on all kinds of procedures. Former military history is a plus.
Guessing you never heard of POLICE ACADEMY. You do know there are several movies made to spoof it.
They know how much the pay is going to be when accepting the job. NOBODY forced them to be a cop. I'm tired of having to be grateful to people who signed up & wanted that job. Here in Miami the beginning pay is way more than $30,000 a year.
Does anyone thank sex workers who risk our health, our lives to make men happy? Seems plenty of sex workers die on the job all the time. Men don't seem to be grateful for the risk we take to keep them sexually gratified. If we get an STD, HIV, beaten up or killed on the job, we are all told what did you expect.
Not sure where the hostility is coming from....
I didn't say they weren't made to fill out an application, weren't interviewed, or weren't trained at all. I said not "to the extent that they should be." Of course I know of police academy. I also know that movies aren't particularly realistic, and that the extent to which I've learned that cops are actually trained and prepared here is not equivalent to how they are vetted and trained in many other first-world countries who do not have these issues as extensively with their police forces.
Also not sure where you think I was "defending" them or telling you to be grateful to them. I never even used the words "grateful" or "thanking" so...
What I said was that people seem to forget that the people behind the uniforms are just human beings, and that if the system and laws that hire, train, and maintain them are messed up and broken, then we can't expect much more out of them than we could of any other random person on the street. I also said I wasn't ok with that fact, and listed the crummy behavior I see as something I take issue with, so not sure why I'm being attacked as saying we should be grateful for their mere existence or something.
My point was simply that we can either see this as a flaw in the system that governs them, where there might be some sort of hope to change and fix that to an extent. Weed people out. Change the laws to be more strict with them. Be more concerned with making sure that the people who end up out there are quality rather than just getting more boots on the ground. Or I suppose we can operate under the assumption that the second someone puts on a blue uniform that they just instantly become heartless psychopaths... which is not only farfetched, but an extremely pessimistic and powerless viewpoint to take of a such prevalent force in our society, and I'd like to think that there's NOT just "nothing we can do about it."
And as I was typing that all out, I realized, this is a vent thread. People are angry, rightfully so. I am as well, and wasn't trying to bring down anyone's rightful anger at the injustice and bullshit in this or any other police scenario by trying to logically analyze what I think the problems are that contribute to the fucked-upness. As I said, I work in emergency services out in the vanilla world, I think only certain types of people should be in jobs like that, and the majority, sadly, are not - and shit like this really upsets me, to the point that I spend a lot of time thinking about it. I got carried away with my own personal analysis. And I'll leave it alone, as this was a space originally created to vent and get the frustration out, not nit-pick around for hypothetical, idealized, and (let's be real) probably naive solutions.
I just would hate for anyone to continue to operate under the assumption that me trying to take a broader look at the issues was me somehow defending the assholes, or trying to force some "show some respect for cops!" attitude onto anyone - not at all my mindset, I assure you.
It is pure propaganda repeated over & over again about how we should all respect these men for keeping us safe & risking their lives to do so.......
Women do NOT have equal protection under the law in the U.S.
Now as sex workers we have ZERO protection from them. We are targeted by stalkers, rapist & killers. We ALL know that going to the police will do NOTHING to protect us. Society mocks us and tells us we deserve every bad thing done to us.
The police constantly target us. They bust us, rather than the men. Decades they criminalize us, exploit us while the men the customers literally get away with murder. So when you write how we all should have more respect that they put their lives on the line for very little money. NO, I can't.
This is what the cops do to us.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...solve_the.html Women are treated like criminals when reporting a rape.
https://nypost.com/2017/11/26/prosti...out-of-window/
https://www.theroot.com/2-nypd-cops-...van-1819937352
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Holtzclaw
https://jezebel.com/the-cops-dont-ca...t-d-1682577343
https://nypost.com/2017/11/23/cops-t...harges-lawyer/
http://www.anonews.co/cops-rape-woman/
https://nypost.com/2017/11/28/off-du...-raping-woman/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/24/o...ims-lying.html This article tells how cops are all trained to tell victims that they will be charged with a crime with filing a false report. Stories of how rape victims who went to the police and without any investigations were charged & fined with filing a false report.
Can you imagine being raped by knife point & then you are arrested. Cops are being told to arrest more victims immediately for filing false reports. Are there any other crimes reported where the victim is automatically accused of lying?
Again, I'm just going to repeat, that no... No, I never said that, or even implied it. Please show me where I ever said that "you all should have more respect for cops?" I never even USED the word respect except in my last post where I very specifically said "this is what I'm NOT saying." Please stop putting words in my mouth, when they are literally typed out for both of us to refer back to. I gave, what I assume, is their mindset when they are in a scenario such as the one above. They think they may be putting their lives on the line, they may not think it's worth it, and then they decided, if there's no law that says otherwise, it's not worth the risk to them. Did I say this was right? No, in fact, I said this is total bullshit.
No one was defending this behavior or saying "show respect." You may not agree with what I perceive to be the issues or potential solutions. That's fine. But don't tell me that I'm saying things and making arguments that I'm not making, and then proceed to berate me for things I never said. We're on the same side. We're both angry about this as well as all the shitty behaviors in the police force that are rampant in our society. I would never tell you, or anyone else, to show more respect for cops because "rah rah rah, they risk their lives for us!" when obviously, the point of this thread was they don't when they should be.