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Is Escorting Nearly Dead?
Anyone else feeling the burn since SESTA passed? Summers have always been slow but Fall isn't lookin so bright for me either. Especially when the only reliable ad site for the Southeast is Eros and its beyond capacity with girls.
My pics arent super professional, a solid 7-8, but they used to get the job done regardless. My Content is great, and my prices are lower if not the same for most, but other than that, I dont know what gives. I'll be touring up north (NYC, etc.) next week and dunno what else to do to increase my chances of booking appts.
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I think the days of posting ads are over and the money makers are having to get creative. Freestyling and working on platforms like instagram seems to be the move. Those girls selling flat tummy tea arent really selling flat tummy tea. :)
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Exxotica
Anyone else feeling the burn since SESTA passed? Summers have always been slow but Fall isn't lookin so bright for me either. Especially when the only reliable ad site for the Southeast is Eros and its beyond capacity with girls.
My pics arent super professional, a solid 7-8, but they used to get the job done regardless. My Content is great, and my prices are lower if not the same for most, but other than that, I dont know what gives. I'll be touring up north (NYC, etc.) next week and dunno what else to do to increase my chances of booking appts.
Last summer when my vanilla job slowed down I supplemented with phone and escorting. I literally would throw up an ad on a Monday and have the rent, light bill, groceries and school clothes plus extra in a few days. Fast forward to this summer, I lost my vanilla job and the struggle is real. I live in a rural area with a few smaller/mid size cities close by that I would escort from. It’s been crickets. The few places that still allow adult ads get flagged, despite the fact I manipulate the terminology. The ads that do stay up, men are scared to bite or don’t want to pay and will flag. There are few places left and I’m not quite sure how to handle it. I think that these new laws have affected everything within the industry. I can’t tour as I’m a single mom and honestly, I wouldn’t know the first thing about touring if I could. There is no way to “freestyle” here without getting busted. My bills are piling up, camming sucks for me and phone is not enough. Not that lawmakers care but all this law has done is force more women into potentially more dangerous situations such as street walking. The next town over i would mainly see girls out hustling to feed an addiction, not lately though. I’ve seen women that I never thought I would see out there hustling. Girls are lowering their rates insanely here to drum up business. Idk about bigger areas but here, SESTA is putting girls out of business.
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Not at all. It's the world's oldest occupation. Internet ads or not, escorts are going to be creative and find ways for their business to thrive.
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trustfundkiller
Not at all. It's the world's oldest occupation. Internet ads or not, escorts are going to be creative and find ways for their business to thrive.
yes I agree. I'm touring/freestyling at the moment. So I guess "online escorting" is nearly dead
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It sucks. I know with any business you have to be versatile and willing to adapt to the times, it's just I chose this life to get a *break* from having to be super analytical and hyper-vigilant the way I did at my stressful vanilla job. I'm fairly experienced, I had a good run, and I had time to work on therapy and self care so I'm grateful for the opportunities provided by adult work.
I'm on the phone sex lines, networked with regulars, even applied to vanilla jobs and things suck. I'm making due the best I can. I just do not trust 3ros at all because of how silent they went after they got raided last year. It wouldn't surprise me if it's now a guvt honeypot for all the women's id's etc. and the alphabet boys are actually running it. The new laws are basically R1co for sex workers. And generally when every criminal gets shutdown except for one, it's because they're in bed with the authorities. Unfortunately, 3ros is the only players in town in most areas. I just feel like that site is russian roulette.
For you ladies who freestyle to get clients, I gathered there's three basic phases:
1) Qualifying the guy: Is he alone or with his wife, does he come across respectful, is he staying at the resort, etc.
2) Letting him know time is money: That's fairly easy simply flirting or some variation of "take care of me" "help me" "shopping" said in a joking subtle way works.
3) Handling payment: This is where I need a little help.
**If any ladies prefer to pm me for safety/privacy reasons, totally understandable**
I searched the archives where ladies gave good tips on blending into high end hotels, looking classy and discrete and subtly letting the guy know he needs to spend for you to go upstairs. I just have yet to see anything about handling the $$ and the next step after he agrees to pay when you are about to go up to his room. If I'm going to take on the increased risk of freestyling in person and I'm going to rich areas I want more ca$h obviously, and not every guy has thousands in his wallet at any given moment.
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Once I moved out of LA/NYC/SF and started touring, targetting mid-sized cities with reasonable cost of living and with only a handfull of escorts, I started actually making a living off escorting. It makes me sad that I've stripped and travel-danced just to pay 1k+/month in ads plus professional photos but with not much response for years but I didnt give ip bc Im stubborn! So I've been doing the best since FOSTA/SESTA partly bc I moved out of saturated markets and partly bc I dont have to complete with 200-400hr cheap hookers in cities where rent is 2-3k month. I've never done backpage craigslist and ter has never wprked for me, so Im glad those venues are gone since they cheapen the entire industry. Its been good enough such that I don't have time to dance at a club currently esp with my other pursuits. This, however, can change any day. The internet has ruined a lot of industries by cheapening certain services. When government comes to shut down the lower end portion of the industry, it's actually gonna inflate prices bc services wont be as readily available.
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I never went the online escorting route back when ad sites existed. I always freelanced at the clubs I worked at with a very select few of my regulars, who I kept around for years. A lot of girls meet their clients working at strip clubs, it has always been a thing. I think now especially it happens more regularly since FOSTA/SESTA was enforced. For non stripper sex workers, I’m with everyone else on them having to be more creative about marketing themselves. Going the Instagram model route may be worth a try. Now a days you can even buy followers to make it look like you’re already established! It could work. But escorting in general will never die out, it’s just going through dramatic and difficult changes.
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Instagram and Snapchat have been working pretty good for me. A new site double list has been good too. I was hesitant at first but so far so good. There are a few SCs in the area that don't make you do a stage show but still allow you to use VIP for $50 a night. They call them courtousy girls. I have got several clients from that.
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a friend of mine was still using eros with no problems, until recently, as far as i know. and she barely screens. not to say that's good or bad or whatever, just hopefully a little useful to some, if that.
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Eros is under investigation. I pray that it stays up though. P411 has been excellent for me too but that's going away. I do wonder how many of the wanna be actresses I run into in LA use their acting biz as a front to find clients.i wouldn't even know how to got
that route.
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ZeroSugarMonster
Eros is under investigation. I pray that it stays up though. P411 has been excellent for me too but that's going away. I do wonder how many of the wanna be actresses I run into in LA use their acting biz as a front to find clients.i wouldn't even know how to got
that route.
I'm not in LA but I swear insta is how many are doing it. Its like hiding in plain site. I'm kinda nervous about posting the tell tell signs.
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ZeroSugarMonster
Eros is under investigation. I pray that it stays up though. P411 has been excellent for me too but that's going away. I do wonder how many of the wanna be actresses I run into in LA use their acting biz as a front to find clients.i wouldn't even know how to got
that route.
Many established actresses as well....
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Bahuba
Many established actresses as well....
Lol, yes I read a post somewhere else, she went to a huge party on a ship (not a yacht) & she spotted a few actresses there one in disguise that wasn't working.:)
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I have a lot of regulars but haven't seen or heard of anything slowing down from friends.
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I do agree with so much said here. DoubleList can be good at times as well. I think that it impacts differently depending on location. When CL and BP were still a thing I had no issues with it cheapening the industry. I think in a more rural area like this it was either go online or hit the streets in the surrounding cities. Sadly a lot of girls in those areas are into drugs etc. so I could post online and bam. Every once in awhile I would try to get someone to haggle and then I would remind him of his options, what he is paying for (cleanliness, discretion, etc) and demand extra since he questioned my rates and get it. I’m just going to have to roll with the times I guess. The IG idea scares me a little bit as I do not wish for family/friends who do not know to find out. Traveling a little further to one of the major cities 1-2 days a week may be my best bet. Any of you guys in a smaller area?
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When you say that cl and backpage worked for you, what were you charging? My luck on backpage was a guy offering me 400/hr in nyc and 200/hr in la. Those are not acceptable rates, given how expensive those areas are in general. The other site you mention might be woeth a look.
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Can anyone give me more info on how to market yourself for escorting on Instagram? I'd be into trying that.
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ravenskyy
Can anyone give me more info on how to market yourself for escorting on Instagram? I'd be into trying that.
- Follow other providers in your area, and see if you can find accounts that they follow who look like they might potentially be clients (ie not providers lol)
- Post every day... I look at feed posts as something that relates to your brand or even just better quality posts that I’ve taken more time with. Use some hash tags but don’t go crazy, and tell a story - don’t throw up a photo without any written content. Story posts are more quick snap shots hat I haven’t put as much thought into
- Take sexy photos for your content but to avoid being shadowbanned don’t post full frontal nudity
- engage (briefly) with people who comment on your posts.
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Has anyone tried Erotic Monkey?
https://www.eroticmonkey.ch
I think the site is hosted in Switzerland, so it may be out of reach of US law enforcement
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^ E.M. has been around for a while. It's still an option.
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escorting safely and being able to screen clients might be dead, but sex work isn’t. I feel so bad for you guys.
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Peaches 94
Instagram and Snapchat have been working pretty good for me. .
How do ensure your viewers are even in your city? I get likes but their potential clients from other cities/ even countries.
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ZeroSugarMonster
When you say that cl and backpage worked for you, what were you charging? My luck on backpage was a guy offering me 400/hr in nyc and 200/hr in la. Those are not acceptable rates, given how expensive those areas are in general. The other site you mention might be woeth a look.
It’s all about the area, those are expensive places to be. I am from an area that doesn’t even have a Walmart, hospital, etc in the county. Larger close by areas aren’t quite that large either. CL and BP were the few that offered cities close by. Maybe a well known porn star could charge $400 an hour close by but she would have very little clientele.
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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
I think the days of posting ads are over and the money makers are having to get creative. Freestyling and working on platforms like instagram seems to be the move. Those girls selling flat tummy tea arent really selling flat tummy tea. :)
This has never occurred to me and it's so obvious. I think you're a fucking genius now. FWIW.